Change IP Address

ben02 · Post by **ben02** » Fri, 11 Jan 2008 9:10 am

Hi guys, does anyone know how to change ur IP address?? have tried various ways after i googled for the steps, but they dont seem to work.. or is it due to my Singnet Broadband svc?? thanks in advance..

ScoobyDoes · Post by **ScoobyDoes** » Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:19 am

Your Singtel provides you with a modem/router combination or just a modem?

If it's just a modem then you'll be given the IP from Singtel, if you are behind a modem then you'll be able to change your computer's Local IP address, not the open IP kept by Singtel.

You'll only be able to change your open IP by going through a proxy server but that's more complicated that changing your pc's IP.

ben02 · Post by **ben02** » Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:29 am

ScoobyDoes wrote:Your Singtel provides you with a modem/router combination or just a modem?

If it's just a modem then you'll be given the IP from Singtel, if you are behind a modem then you'll be able to change your computer's Local IP address, not the open IP kept by Singtel.

You'll only be able to change your open IP by going through a proxy server but that's more complicated that changing your pc's IP.

Its a modem/router combination.. U know that black and silver box, i think its the same for all the new users they gave to.. the brand is '2WIRE'.. so any chance of changing the IP??

durain · Post by **durain** » Fri, 11 Jan 2008 6:18 pm

hmmm... what are you trying to do here? one reason why people would want to change their IP address is so that they cant be trace. are you trying to do something illegal?

the IP assigned to you by singtel is a public IP address. so if you do illegal stuff, singtel will know coz it is pointing to your IP address. expect a knock on the door

back to the technical bit... once the IP address is in the router, it will get NAT and any computer device connected to the route will get a private IP address. you can only change the private IP address "range".

ben02 · Post by **ben02** » Sat, 12 Jan 2008 1:07 am

durain wrote:hmmm... what are you trying to do here? one reason why people would want to change their IP address is so that they cant be trace. are you trying to do something illegal?

the IP assigned to you by singtel is a public IP address. so if you do illegal stuff, singtel will know coz it is pointing to your IP address. expect a knock on the door

back to the technical bit... once the IP address is in the router, it will get NAT and any computer device connected to the route will get a private IP address. you can only change the private IP address "range".

well, not exactly illegal.. ok, im trying to download torrent, and recently, seems like my torrent client had some problems, it just wont download no matter how.. my friend told me changing the IP add, cos it might have been blocked by the other party, thats why i cant dl.. Any help on this??

ScoobyDoes · Post by **ScoobyDoes** » Sat, 12 Jan 2008 9:50 am

ben02 wrote:
well, not exactly illegal.. ok, im trying to download torrent

We'll there's a contradiction!

If haven't heard of being blocked by an opposite party but it is possible, i just don't think changing your local IP will help and changing your open IP would mean going through a proxy server.

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:16 pm

While I know absolutely nothing about bit-torrent I read somewhere that you can be blocked by others if you are a downloader but not an uploader. It would seem that in order for bit-torrent to work properly everybody's PC needs to be able to be accessed in order for the system to work. I believe the old napster was the same in that respect. Bit-torrent isn't free. The cost is the usage of your PC for uploading into the system (therefore creating the opportunity for the local ISP's to catch you uploading lots of stuff that may be copyrighted. It would appear that you are already know as a blodger who downloads but doesn't allow your PC content to be uploaded to support the bit-torrent community. (Fear of being caught?)

Surely you are not trying to do this are you? if so, I would doubt anybody here will help you any further as we do not condone illegal activities.

jockney · Post by **jockney** » Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:25 pm

I use bit torrents all the time and some clients are banned by certain sites because they do things they are not supposed to!
Try changing to a good torrent client!
What are you using?
Are/were you a member of a torrent group?
Since coming to Singapore and using the site I am a member of and not using clients banned by that site and also playing by the upload/download rules I have had no grief!

ben02 · Post by **ben02** » Sat, 12 Jan 2008 3:33 pm

jockney wrote:I use bit torrents all the time and some clients are banned by certain sites because they do things they are not supposed to!
Try changing to a good torrent client!
What are you using?
Are/were you a member of a torrent group?
Since coming to Singapore and using the site I am a member of and not using clients banned by that site and also playing by the upload/download rules I have had no grief!

i use this chinese one called 'Thunder'?? heard of it?? ya.. so what do u use??

jockney · Post by **jockney** » Sat, 12 Jan 2008 7:05 pm

I use Azereus for the client and I am a member of The box.biz, which has been bloody great as I use it correctly as per the rules as I said.

bigfilsing · Post by **bigfilsing** » Sun, 13 Jan 2008 2:58 pm

ScoobyDoes wrote:
ben02 wrote:
well, not exactly illegal.. ok, im trying to download torrent
We'll there's a contradiction!

If haven't heard of being blocked by an opposite party but it is possible, i just don't think changing your local IP will help and changing your open IP would mean going through a proxy server.

So ll torrentsa are illegal then !!! What rubbish ! There's literally thousands of perfectly legal torrents.

The problem you probably have is you're trying to download a private torrent. That means the torrent is hosted on a private tracker which means you have to be a member or subscriber to the tracker site or similar.
Most torrent clients and some torrent web sites show when torrents are "private" The you'll need to join the site in order to download.

I doubt your IP is being blocked as 99.9% of private users are on dynamic IP's they change all the time so blocking them is pointless.
The torrent site may blaock international downloaders. For example a site hosting UK TV shows may only allow people from UK based IP's download the content.

If you are determined to change your IP then switch off your modem for a day / week/ month.....chances are we you re-connect to your service provider you will be assigned a different IP.

Good luck

ben02 · Post by **ben02** » Sun, 13 Jan 2008 3:12 pm

bigfilsing wrote:
ScoobyDoes wrote:
ben02 wrote:
well, not exactly illegal.. ok, im trying to download torrent
We'll there's a contradiction!

If haven't heard of being blocked by an opposite party but it is possible, i just don't think changing your local IP will help and changing your open IP would mean going through a proxy server.
So ll torrentsa are illegal then !!! What rubbish ! There's literally thousands of perfectly legal torrents.

The problem you probably have is you're trying to download a private torrent. That means the torrent is hosted on a private tracker which means you have to be a member or subscriber to the tracker site or similar.
Most torrent clients and some torrent web sites show when torrents are "private" The you'll need to join the site in order to download.

I doubt your IP is being blocked as 99.9% of private users are on dynamic IP's they change all the time so blocking them is pointless.
The torrent site may blaock international downloaders. For example a site hosting UK TV shows may only allow people from UK based IP's download the content.

If you are determined to change your IP then switch off your modem for a day / week/ month.....chances are we you re-connect to your service provider you will be assigned a different IP.

Good luck

thanks for justifying.. ya, i thought so too.. BT is for sharing large files online.. ya, but true also, illegal cos most people use it to download stuff/files with copyrights.. (so its illegal only in that sense, else, BT is perfectly legal).. anyway, thanks for ur advice, will try to power off my modem for a day and see how.. any other steps other then that which i need to take note?? thanks in advance..

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Sun, 13 Jan 2008 4:12 pm

ben02 wrote:thanks for justifying.. ya, i thought so too.. BT is for sharing large files online.. ya, but true also, illegal cos most people use it to download stuff/files with copyrights.. (so its illegal only in that sense, else, BT is perfectly legal).. anyway, thanks for ur advice, will try to power off my modem for a day and see how.. any other steps other then that which i need to take note?? thanks in advance..

So in all probability, you were downloading copyrighted materials and got blocked so now you are trying your best to change your IP address in order to continue to download illegal copyrighted materials. Have I got it right? (Otherwise you probably wouldn't have been blocked in the first place). So you want to know how to change it in order to continue to download illegal copyrighted materials correct? Local government might be tracking your IP address as we post.

durain · Post by **durain** » Sun, 13 Jan 2008 9:12 pm

yes, 99.9% of the IP address you get from your ISP is dynamic but they are still track/log by the ISP. this is for the purpose if you are downloading illegal stuff big time. this is not just in singapore but most ISP worldwide will have some sort of tracking/log.

just picture this. if a user is downloading kiddie porn, how will the user get nick? ISP will probably detect it, inform the police, get a court order to track the IP assigned to the user and gather the evidences.

i am not saying you are downloading kiddie porn, i am saying even if you change your IP address, you are still tie in with the same ISP and they will know what IP is assigned to which user. so turning off your modem wont make any difference.

i am on dynamic IP and my IP hasnt changed, even when the modem was off for weeks when i was away.

downloading via BT itself is not illegal as a lot of linux distribution is using BT. unfortunately most of user using BT is to download copyrighted/illegal stuff.

Splatted · Post by **Splatted** » Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:53 pm

you're not getting blocked.

More than likely your system is not set up right for torrent downloads, specifically the port forwarding setup in your router.

Bit-torrents and p2p is not illegal, but think twice about downloading copyrighted content in Singapore. RIAA/MIAA (from the US) have very recently set up office in Singapore as their Asian base.

It won't surprise me to see lawsuits as people are caught out. This has been their practice everywhere else they've cracked down.

edit: oh, and as a final point, RIAA/MIAA lawsuits are civil cases. These DON'T indemnify you against criminal action that can take place afterwards by the police, once you settle out of court.

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