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Post by BradleyF81 » Thu, 28 May 2009 5:47 pm

Still waiting on the PR application results, so it will be a long time before I see an NS letter I'm sure. I'll be sure to update when I do get it though.

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Post by tinzar76 » Thu, 28 May 2009 7:24 pm

Thank you.

I also waiting for my PR approval.
Once receive, I'll update in here..

:)

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Post by BradleyF81 » Thu, 28 May 2009 7:27 pm

We filed ours at the end of last month. So, hopefully it won't be too much longer of a wait. Had trouble getting a job and I'm hoping the PR thing will make it easier. Having to leave SG so often to renew my passport stamp is getting costly. We found a good deal this time though. We're gonna go to Kuala Lumpur for a few days.

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Post by wcs » Sun, 21 Jun 2009 4:04 am

The low pay for NS is when you are drafted as a teen. I was told by locals that when you get called back the army has to pay your going rate of your current job, thus if you earn a high salary they are less likely to call you up for anything than the bare minimum as it costs them too much.

It is all heresay, but it may be that you can expect them to pay your market rate to do NS, or you might be exempted just because it will cost them too much.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:32 am

wcs wrote:The low pay for NS is when you are drafted as a teen. I was told by locals that when you get called back the army has to pay your going rate of your current job, thus if you earn a high salary they are less likely to call you up for anything than the bare minimum as it costs them too much.

It is all heresay, but it may be that you can expect them to pay your market rate to do NS, or you might be exempted just because it will cost them too much.
For the record, Yes, your reservists duty is based on your civilian salary. However, this does not stop them from calling up the high earners either. If you but stop and think about it, those with high level civilian jobs may well have also been high ranking personnel in the military as well (stands to reason - barring certain mindsets) Therefore, doesn't do much good to only call up the indians (figure of speech) without any chiefs to lead them does it? Believe me, the only reason you don't always see the high ranking civilians reservists is because of the waiver letters that we (HR) have to write to get their lazy arses out of it! :P
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Post by wcs » Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:18 am

Thanks for the additional insight...it is nice to hear the other side of the story too! :)

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Post by jpatokal » Mon, 22 Jun 2009 9:55 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:However, this does not stop them from calling up the high earners either. If you but stop and think about it, those with high level civilian jobs may well have also been high ranking personnel in the military as well (stands to reason - barring certain mindsets)
Admirable in theory, but here's the reality: a very well paid IT consultant friend of mine is regularly called up for reservist duty, where he utilizes his specialist skills and lofty military rank of "Corporal" by sitting around in a warehouse handing out kit to other called-up reservists. Your tax money at work :???:
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:22 pm

JP, you might want to go back a read the thread. I was replying to the poster who said "high earners" don't get called up. I was actually disagreeing with him. So the reality is, you just backed up what I was saying. The fact that he was only a corporal was immaterial. :wink:
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Post by wcs » Tue, 23 Jun 2009 5:04 am

That would be me who was putting up a theory which local friends were quite convincing about. Obviously they have a half formed theory and I am duely chastened! :oops:

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Post by SkandiVega » Wed, 26 Oct 2011 3:10 am

dereklim wrote:And.... after filling in the profile and everything, Mindef says I don't have to do NS.

I would like to thank everybody for all their time in replying this seemingly simple but important matter. Cheers!
Hi Derek, I'm just successful apply for SPR under sponsorship of my wife, i notice that I will be the second generation and MAYBE liable for NS. after you completed your formalities for the PR, anything you need to do to find out you're liable for NS or not ? appreciate if u share ur experince :)
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Post by nakatago » Wed, 26 Oct 2011 3:26 am

SkandiVega wrote:
dereklim wrote:And.... after filling in the profile and everything, Mindef says I don't have to do NS.

I would like to thank everybody for all their time in replying this seemingly simple but important matter. Cheers!
Hi Derek, I'm just successful apply for SPR under sponsorship of my wife, i notice that I will be the second generation and MAYBE liable for NS. after you completed your formalities for the PR, anything you need to do to find out you're liable for NS or not ? appreciate if u share ur experince :)
You may want to note the date of the posts you're replying to
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Post by SkandiVega » Wed, 26 Oct 2011 3:43 am

nakatago wrote:
SkandiVega wrote:
dereklim wrote:And.... after filling in the profile and everything, Mindef says I don't have to do NS.

I would like to thank everybody for all their time in replying this seemingly simple but important matter. Cheers!
Hi Derek, I'm just successful apply for SPR under sponsorship of my wife, i notice that I will be the second generation and MAYBE liable for NS. after you completed your formalities for the PR, anything you need to do to find out you're liable for NS or not ? appreciate if u share ur experince :)
You may want to note the date of the posts you're replying to
I notice that mate, but since I'm new bird here, and i just pick one to ask and see there is any reply. any experience regarding my case ? anyway, thanks for remind:)
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Post by Mad Scientist » Wed, 26 Oct 2011 4:08 am

SkandiVega wrote:
nakatago wrote:
SkandiVega wrote: Hi Derek, I'm just successful apply for SPR under sponsorship of my wife, i notice that I will be the second generation and MAYBE liable for NS. after you completed your formalities for the PR, anything you need to do to find out you're liable for NS or not ? appreciate if u share ur experince :)
You may want to note the date of the posts you're replying to
I notice that mate, but since I'm new bird here, and i just pick one to ask and see there is any reply. any experience regarding my case ? anyway, thanks for remind:)
A Letter from CMPB will be send to your local address . If you do not receive after a wee while , call CMPB to confirm your status by providing your SPR Number. They will send an e-mail to that effect of your liabilities
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:19 am

If you are under 30 and got your PR using the family ties method and not the PTS scheme, then there is a good possibility of being called up. Over thirty....... probably waivered off.

On, by the way, you are not Second Gen PR. That is only applicable if you are granted PR under the PTS Scheme.
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