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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 6:21 pm

If you receive your PR on your own merits and not as a dependent (you are already an adult) they I don't think you would have a PR liability as you are first generation PR. Only 2nd Gen PR's are liable for PR from what I understand. 2nd Gen means PR by dependency which you are not.

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Postby blueridge » Thu, 25 Dec 2008 1:24 am

sourisso wrote:i see, same situation as me then, thanks.

i guess i'll give it a try then !



i just want to know if u already tried...

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Postby rebel81 » Tue, 30 Dec 2008 5:28 pm

A couple of questions here

1.) Am i a second generation PR ? My mother's Singaporean , but my father is a Foreigner (Not PR).

2.) I am 27 this year (I am a PR)....somehow i was exempted from NS years back, received a letter from Mindef stating i was not liable for it. I have recently applied for Singapore citizenship. It was approved .....will they asked me to serve NS now ? btw....I just renewed my 5 yr re-entry permit with self sponsorship based on the professional scheme.

3.) i guess having my wife as PR and mother as Singaporean has no relation whatever so since i re-newed my PR with self sponsorship. Is that right?

Any feedback is much appreciated. Thanks :)

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Postby sourisso » Fri, 09 Jan 2009 3:35 pm

blueridge wrote:
sourisso wrote:i see, same situation as me then, thanks.

i guess i'll give it a try then !



i just want to know if u already tried...



Hi, yes i did. Im a PR, since last november. I haven't received the letter asking to register online yet.

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Postby Jeppo » Fri, 09 Jan 2009 3:57 pm

sourisso wrote:Hi, yes i did. Im a PR, since last november. I haven't received the letter asking to register online yet.


Mine took about six months or so before I got the letter. Don't worry, it'll come :lol:

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Postby tgi » Wed, 14 Jan 2009 1:42 am

I'm in the same situation here with wife sponsorship. Going to do the formalities tomorrow. I'd appreciate if you guys can keep posting about some updates, and I'm going to do likewise! Thanks for sharing!

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Postby sourisso » Mon, 09 Mar 2009 5:08 pm

well for your info, i received, last week the letter asking to register.

i just did.

Unfortunately, it looks like i wasn't lucky as the others, as i have to serve NS :?















Just kidding. :D
Im not required to serve.

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Great!

Postby BradleyF81 » Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:04 am

Ah, this really takes a weight off my shoulders!

My wife and I just applied for PR together, with her as the main applicant.

My wife has been working in Singapore for 2 years, we got married here, and I've been here for almost a year, going in and out to renew my passport stamp every 3 months. She has an S pass so DP wasn't an option. It was getting old so we went ahead and applied for PR.

Imagine my surprise when the woman behind the desk told me I might be liable for NS. I'm 28 and spent 8 years in the US military. I'm sure you can imagine the things I started worrying about.

It's good to know that I'll more than likely receive a waiver. I'm anxious to see how this little drama is going to play out.

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Postby littlegreenman » Sat, 25 Apr 2009 2:26 pm

Hi EP Holder,

good question however there should be a simple answer as per the ICA web page:

Main applicants who are granted PR status under the first generation Professionals/Technical Personnel and Skilled Workers (PTS) Scheme or the Investor Scheme are exempted from NS. Male children who are granted PR status under their parents' sponsorship are liable for NS under the Enlistment Act


Bottom line is you will be applying under the first generation Professionals/Technical Personnel and Skilled Workers (PTS) Scheme and thus won't be required to do NS.

I hope this helps, good luck.

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Postby BradleyF81 » Sat, 25 Apr 2009 3:38 pm

Ah, just to clarify, my wife applied for PR as the main applicant, since I haven't been able to find work yet. That's why i was concerned.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:11 pm

BradleyF81, don't worry too much. When looking at answers given here, always check the poster to see how long there have been here and how many posts they made.

littlegreenman is a newbie as well. In his haste to be helpful he neglected to carefully read your post. Course maybe it's because he a Brit and you're a Yank. Two countries separated by a common language! I understand you however. :wink: This often leads to this syndrome:

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Having said that, he IS trying to be helpful and will make a worthy addition to our community on this board and hopefully you will as well (Even IF you are a Yank! - I'M ALSO ONE :wink: )

The real bottom line is that those obtaining PR under the family ties scheme, while liable for NS, are usually given a waiver. This, while a sigh of relief I hear, is obviously at the pleasure of the government. Should something untoward happen here, regarding the currently proclivity of countries to invade other countries, you could always find yourself with a revoked waiver. I doubt very seriously that this would happen, but I would be remiss if I didn't mention the fact.

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Postby BradleyF81 » Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:16 pm

Thanks for the info! I guess in 3 months I'll see if the PR was approved, and then 6 months after that I'll see what happens with the registration thing.

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Postby littlegreenman » Mon, 27 Apr 2009 5:40 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:...littlegreenman... it's because he a Brit


Watch it mate :???: . I see the above as a personal insult :x . I was not born on this darn island and never did I ever hold their passport. I am stuck here with my bamboo tv and bamboo telephone (the bamboo has recently been replaced with empty beer bottles as main building material), desperate to go back to that other island which is sunny and in the sea.

Jokes aside, this detail didn't get lost as I applied my German accuracy and diligence. Funnily enough I spoke to a friend who was in the same situation as yourself: Wife S-pass, husband hopping in and out all the time. She applied for PR 5 months ago together with her husband. Now they told him at the ICA that as his wife's PR is under the PTS scheme and he is applying along with her, he will also fall into the PTS category. This is what I based my above email on. Happy to be corrected though any time :)

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Postby BradleyF81 » Mon, 27 Apr 2009 5:54 pm

Call me weird, but I like overcast, rainy weather. I always did, ever since I was a kid. I lived in Germany for four years and used to love the overcast winters. Maybe London would be fun for me? I hear it rains there a lot. Of course, it rains a lot here in Singapore too.

Anyhow, it seems like everyone has a story with a different ending, so maybe it's all based on an individual basis. I had a Singaporean citizen tell me that since I'm not 30 yet, I'll have to serve NS. I thought about that for a while, but even if that were true, and I'm not convinced it is, I would be 30 before the completion of the 2 year NS anyways. Why I'm not convinced is that her answer is the odd one out, and just because someone's a citizen doesn't mean they know anything about the military, especially since she was a woman and not liable.

As for what you said about that similar situation, that's the category my wife would fall under I think. This whole thing is a pretty tricky business. I guess I'll play it by ear.

The funniest thing is that, other than the fact I heard there's very little pay in NS, the idea of doing it doesn't really bother me. I have a solid background of military experience to fall back on, and ... I'm kind of the adventurous type anyways.

Oh, one other thing I heard is that if you're into that sort of thing you can preempt NS by joining the actual military for a while. Not sure what that's about but the pay has to be better.

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Re: NS liability for PR

Postby tinzar76 » Thu, 28 May 2009 2:27 pm

Hi...

I also got same problems with you as you mentioned.
I would like to know about ur husband's NS letter ?
Pls let me know about your husband's NS result.

Thanks

TZM


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