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Post by Plavt » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 6:11 am

Rule303 wrote: On another note I am concerned with the reponse of Plavt. Shame on you! you are supposed to be a moderator. Shouldn't this be a forum where people may speak their experiences without being told that their input is garbage? Isn't the moderators role to remove or edit offensive material, to hose down flamewars and to possibly encourage contributors comments? Maybe a question asking for evidence would have been more diplomatic and productive?
No doubt *everyones* conditions are different, so how do you determine which ones are valid to make comment and which aren't?
First of all being a moderator has nothing to do with what I post and as for your links it doesn't help that one site is written in German.
You hang in ther 'Chiro' whoever you are and don't let the mods bully you. :wink:
( and I will be most surprised is this post lasts more than 1 hour....)
Nobody is bullying anyone Chiro is free to read my post or simply walk away same as anybody else so if you looking for trouble kindly go somewhere else!

I suggest you read this which has been written by government employed doctors in the UK, I don't see any mention of yoga there and the alternative therapies are at best dubious; ... is-it.aspx (NHS means National Health Service).

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Post by Rule303 » Sun, 18 Jan 2009 7:14 pm

Apologies for confusing "Plavt the poster" with "Plavt the moderator"
It's a pity you could not understand German pictures, that German website contains some good non-surgical before and after shots showing remarkable improvements through non-surgical means.

If the following definitions are accepted:-
Physiotherapy: Therapy that uses physical agents: exercise and massage and other modalities to maintain or achieve health and wellbeing.
Yoga: a general term for a range of body/mind exercise practices used to encourage physical and mental well-being. ...
Then Yoga can be equated to Physio in regard to the common goal of maintenance of physical wellbeing through specific excercises.

There are a number of references and documentation to the treatment and improvement of the condition of scoliosis through non surgical methods (i.e. Bracing, and physio) Although, as you showed nothing from the British National Health System, a sorry indictment on the NHS, particularly when I read on one site of British scoliosis sufferers discussing the best German Scroth clinic to attend.

Martha C Hawes (Phd USA) book 'Scoliosis and the Human Spine' writes of her success with nonsurgical treatment options for her own spinal curvature to reduce her own thoracic curve by 40% without bracing or surgery and has the interesting conclusion ".... statements claiming that scoliosis cannot be stabilized or reversed without bracing or surgery are not, and never have been, supported by scientific data. On the contrary, as detailed in this book, long-standing basic and clinical research results documented in reputable medical journals are consistent with the hypothesis that scoliosis can be reduced if not eliminated using nonsurgical approaches...."

Italy: Negrini S, Zaina F, Romano M, Negrini A, et al. (2008). Specific exercises reduce brace prescription in adolescent idiopathic scoliosis: a prospective controlled cohort study with worst-case analysis. Journal of Rehabilitation Medicine 40(6):451-5.


National Soliosis Foundation of America specifically promoting Yoga ... s/yoga.php

Pity none of these doctors or organisations work for the NHS.

And I beg to differ re your bullying But then you are "free to read my post and simply walk away the same as everybody else. "

fiftycents.thoughts. It may be worth looking at some of the alternatives, good luck.

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Post by Plavt » Wed, 21 Jan 2009 4:33 am

Rule303 wrote:
Pity none of these doctors or organisations work for the NHS.
They wouldn't they are just profit hungry. Despite all you post nothing has been said to a be proven remedy by any recognized medical establishment anywhere.
And I beg to differ re your bullying.
I take exception to your frequent accusations, I have helped more than one person here off by PM's while I have met others which of course you know nothing about.

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