Moving to Singapore from Dubai

span · Post by **span** » Fri, 15 Feb 2008 6:21 pm

Thanks for your feedback. I am in the process of relocating. I had visited Dubai last week for a few days. Any idea on the business opportunitiesin IT in Singapore?

Rgds..

cats 2002 · Post by **cats 2002** » Mon, 18 Feb 2008 3:46 pm

hi ajmani,

for the 9k + perks, I'd say you are in an average good deal except that housing is not included. Since you are down to earth about living, the income for 2 person is more than sufficient for the time being.

Consider renting newer government flats(HDB) living within the locals would be a good option. Rental is about $1.5-2k max, cannot find any witin $1k for HDB and condo is within $3.5-4k. If it is cheap, the condition would be a bit rundown. It is true that the cost of many thing is escalating but for 2 person, you would be living a fairly good life.

Some locals earn around the same salary range but has a family of 3-4 to feed.

Cheers

kimtaymour · Post by **kimtaymour** » Mon, 14 Apr 2008 4:00 am

WoooooW guys u guys made me put the dot on the I

i ma here specially for the same purpose to move form Dubai (because of the same reaso nlack of mind relx and traffic jam and so one) to singapore (a place really worth every letter of it) well its a good move those who made it.. but me am planning a different things to go ofr a jub hunt which makes the game harder anyone can advice? those who have moved what was the hardest situations and problem u faced ? please share

kwokhua · Post by **kwokhua** » Thu, 17 Apr 2008 5:17 am

In my opinin, Singapore is definitely much better than Dubai. Besides it being green and clean and more organised, it is situated in a less volatile region. Dubai is doing well now because of its oil wealth and that's why it is trying its best to reinvent its economy, but I believe it has overspent rather too lavishly. Therefore, it does not have a stable economy that goes for long term projection. As for the Government, the Dubai government is run like a family heirloom and you can never expect consistency and continuity once there are changes in the hierachy. Whereas in Singapore, everything is pretty democratic and hence investors love this place for its stability, even in governance.

I have laid my case out. Hopefully, you will make the choice that suits you.

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:40 am

kwokhua wrote: Whereas in Singapore, everything is pretty democratic ....................

quidsin · Post by **quidsin** » Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:16 pm

kwokhua,

'Dubai is doing well now because of its oil wealth'
-it's hardly got any oil left at all, that might be the reason why they decided to turn into a fantasy land some 15 yrs ago.

'As for the Government, the Dubai government is run like a family heirloom'
-Who is the guy running Singapore now? Is he a relative of the founder, Lee Kwan Yew?

kwokhua · Post by **kwokhua** » Sat, 19 Apr 2008 1:25 pm

I certainly enjoy this constructive debate on the merits of the two cities.

Haha. I made a mistake about the Oil Wealth.

It currently contributes only 6% to the GDP. Thanks for pointing out the error.

As for the question if I am Lee Kuan Yew's relative, nope. But I believe the fellow who asked it must be George Bush's kin. What has this question got to do with this topic? A total waste of space.

As for the fellow who laughed at Singapore's democratic system, let me laugh with you, because we both rejoice at how successful it has been in bringing stability to Singapore. Haha.

Anyway, back to the topic of the merits of Dubai and Singapore, let those who know start the ball rolling again.

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Sat, 19 Apr 2008 3:43 pm

kwokhua wrote: As for the fellow who laughed at Singapore's democratic system, let me laugh with you, because we both rejoice at how successful it has been in bringing stability to Singapore. Haha.

Correction. We rejoice at how successful a "benevolent dictatorship" has been in bringing stability to Singapore. This is anything BUT a Democracy. When the "Ruler" can bankrupt anybody who disagrees with him, and continues to rule from the sidelines in positions continually created just to keep him in power much to the amusement of everybody you cannot say it's a democracy. Meritocracy? maybe, Parliamentary Democracy? Only in form but not in function. Benevolent Dictatorship? Yes. And it's because it was operated like a Dictatorship that he was able to do what he did, dragging the whole country kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Let's be honest and not just patriotic. It's okay to love your country but you also must face facts and not just propaganda put out by SingStat & EDB.

So as you said,

"Anyway, back to the topic of the merits of Dubai and Singapore, let those who know start the ball rolling again."

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Sat, 19 Apr 2008 3:52 pm

kwokhua wrote:As for the question if I am Lee Kuan Yew's relative, nope. But I believe the fellow who asked it must be George Bush's kin. What has this question got to do with this topic? A total waste of space.

I believe you are the one currently wasting space. You really should "read" the posts carefully so you don't end up like this:

I don't believe anybody on this thread asked you if you are KLY's relative. With your statements it's obvious that you are not. Why are you resorting to name calling? Bit immature don't you think?

SunnyinDubai · Post by **SunnyinDubai** » Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:22 am

Having lived in Singapore and Dubai, I reckon that Singapore is better than Dubai in terms of efficiency and organisation. However, I did find it hard to live in Singapore -esp after having a stint in the UK as I found it stifling and just not for me - hence I moved to Oz and loved it there. Husbands' job had us relocate to Dubai and whilst we have been frustrated with the lack of organisation, the laid back insha allah time, we have enjoyed our stay here - we have experienced a different culture, met some lovely locals, enjoyed great jobs and have travelled quite a bit. However, that being said, we have always said we were going to go home and are heading back later this year. Yes, it gets really hot, traffic is bad and cost of living is expensive (like Singapore) but the experience was worht it and we would do it again. It has been an amazing time for us but would I live there for more than 4 years - I don't think so (well maybe if the package was worth it).

BTW as much as people want to be criticial of the ruling family, it is the vision and drive of HH Shk Mohammed that has taken Dubai from where it was to where it is and given a lot of people great job opportunities. He may have his own style of running the country but hey, look at what it is now and what it will be. In fact, if you really want to compare it, Singapore was pretty much the same, LKY took it from a breakaway part of Malaysia to bring it to where it is now - OK not a perfect place but it is doing well. I reckon that in a couple of years (when all the development is done), Dubai will be a good place to live.

kman97 · Post by **kman97** » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 8:57 pm

knickers wrote:We made the move from Dubai to Singapore a month ago and although I miss a few things about Dubai, I personally feel Singapore has a lot more going for it. And there seems to be lots of people making the same move.

Hi, would you mind if I can contact you directly. We are considering moving to Singapore from Dubai and want to bounce off from people who have a reference point. My email is maneesh.kaushik@gmail.com

southpark · Post by **southpark** » Wed, 24 Sep 2008 5:52 am

hi all, i am a bachelor/male/25 and i have been offered a job in Dubai (USD 120000) and Singapore (USD 110000) pa. both offers are quite good but i am not sure which one to take. do you think the salary offered is good enough to manage in dubai and singapore? as a bachelor, which city will have more to offer? i love singapore but i am biased as i have been there before and have friends. dubai is a new territory....not sure what to expect....will really appreciate if anyone here can help me in evaluating the offer and also give some on views on these two cities? thanks for your time....

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:32 pm

Is the dubai offer of 120K USD is also dubai tax paid by the employer? How about the Singapore taxes? Are they offset by the employer. While the tax rates are low here, the difference could be a considerable sum. If it were for only a few years and on a single contract I know where I would go...... Money talks......

Of course, with on 10K separating them and all other things being equal, I would definitely take Singapore. So much to see in the region here and you can do it on weekends! Not much to see locally though. After one month you will get into a rut here. Course that only my opinion which sucks, ask anybody here and they will tell you.

southpark · Post by **southpark** » Wed, 24 Sep 2008 5:58 pm

thanks a lot staple and i really appreciate your views

...the figures quoted are post tax...i agree there is a lot to see in that region but probably i will never see middle east again....not planning to settle down for sure in middle east....the offer from middle east is tempting but i love singapore....but its only for a few years that i will be in the middle east...do you think as a single guy there is a lot to do in singapore? also the salary...do you think i will be comfortable in singapore with that money?

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