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dog obedience training

Postby cairdekb » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 2:39 pm

can anybody recommend a place for basic dog (and owner) obedience training. I have an adorable but stubborn french bulldog ~10mths old.

Somewhere in central area would be best but not essential..

thks

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Re: dog obedience training

Postby Superglide » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 2:46 pm

cairdekb wrote:stubborn french bulldog


There lies the problem...

Try getting him a Singapore citizenship, they are known to be obedient to the extreme.

:twisted:

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Postby road.not.taken » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 3:08 pm

You can try the German Shephard Club, they run obedience training for all breeds, but it's not centrally located. I know people who have had the trainers come to their residence to work with dog and their trainers. Certainly your vet would have a suggestion?

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Re: dog obedience training

Postby Wind In My Hair » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 3:16 pm

Superglide wrote:Try getting him a Singapore citizenship, they are known to be obedient to the extreme.

On the contrary, the dog may calmly decide on its own version of section 377A ie some commands are well and fine for the owner to give, but not necessary to obey. :wink:

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Postby kat. » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 4:32 pm

hi!

You could try here -

http://www.smartdoggy.com/latestupdates.htm

situated on east though.

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Re: dog obedience training

Postby deb96 » Wed, 24 Oct 2007 5:42 pm

cairdekb wrote:can anybody recommend a place for basic dog (and owner) obedience training. I have an adorable but stubborn french bulldog ~10mths old.

Somewhere in central area would be best but not essential..

thks


Try waggies pet care. The trainer has trained French bulldogs before.
Good luck!

debs

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Re: dog obedience training

Postby PatyKuno » Thu, 15 Jan 2015 2:29 am

Hello everyone! I would like to know if any of you have experience in relocating to Singapore along with your French bulldog. Besides all the paperwork that needs to be issued. Which airlines did you use to transfer your Frenchy? I'm coming from Dubai and cannot locate any airline that is willing to take him as the breed is considered high risk


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Re: dog obedience training

Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 15 Jan 2015 7:46 am

PatyKuno wrote:Hello everyone! I would like to know if any of you have experience in relocating to Singapore along with your French bulldog. Besides all the paperwork that needs to be issued. Which airlines did you use to transfer your Frenchy? I'm coming from Dubai and cannot locate any airline that is willing to take him as the breed is considered high risk


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I believe you will have to convince the authorities that your dog is not your average bulldog... a prohibited breed.

See here: http://www.ava.gov.sg/AnimalsPetSector/ ... sPersonal/

And here: http://www.ava.gov.sg/NR/rdonlyres/8325 ... an2014.pdf

Take a look at XII (ii)

About the doggy... certainly doesn't see to be a killer. http://www.akc.org/breeds/french_bulldog/index.cfm

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Postby curiousgeorge » Thu, 15 Jan 2015 9:11 am

PatyKuno wrote:Hello everyone! I would like to know if any of you have experience in relocating to Singapore along with your French bulldog. Besides all the paperwork that needs to be issued. Which airlines did you use to transfer your Frenchy? I'm coming from Dubai and cannot locate any airline that is willing to take him as the breed is considered high risk


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I don't think you ever will...French Bulldogs and all other snub-nose breeds have enough trouble breathing in normal air. In a low-pressure cabin the risk of death is too high for airlines to accept.

OP - I trained with my Pup at Petz Central on Clementi Road. Frankie was excellent with us and his wife is now our preferred groomer too!

If you're not familiar, do some research into "Clicker Training" - start with videos by Kikopup on YouTube to see what is possible.

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Re: dog obedience training

Postby JR8 » Thu, 15 Jan 2015 9:28 am

As StrongEagle alludes, the French Bulldog is a lap-dog, and was bred for that goal. 'High risk' lol, to what, a tennis ball?
So to cut to the point, I think you're dealing with a simple case of mistaken identity. It's not a common breed, and the people you are dealing with are therefore probably not familiar with it. Worse, they're probably hearing/reading 'bulldog' and then simply closing their ears.
Can you ask them what they are using as a reference for the category 'High risk'? And/or provide them with a copy of the banned list that Eagle linked?
What you are facing sounds like a simple misunderstanding, the task is to find where the erroneous hurdle is.

... You don't think that maybe... they're imagining it is in fact a Bulldog from France do you? :o :?
I knew a Singaporean in Europe that owns one, and she would not have bought a breed that she could not bring back to SG.

p.s. Interesting point from CG above. 'High risk' in what way, in transit, or as in dangerous?
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Re: dog obedience training

Postby curiousgeorge » Thu, 15 Jan 2015 9:40 am

JR8 wrote:p.s. Interesting point from CG above. 'High risk' in what way, in transit, or as in dangerous?


High Risk of dying due to asphyxiation in transit. All snub-nose breeds are banned from air travel for that very reason.

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Re: dog obedience training

Postby curiousgeorge » Thu, 15 Jan 2015 9:45 am

Quote from SQ website:

Some animals are prohibited from travel on our flights. They are:

•Household pets (dogs and cats) less than 6 months old
•All birds, except for farmed ostriches, emus, and birds shipped between government zoos
•Pigs (on all passenger aircraft)
•All primates intended for research purposes
•All snub-nosed dogs
•The following dog breeds and their cross-breeds:
•All Terriers
•All Boxers
•All Pugs
•All Bulldogs
•All Spaniels
•All Mastiff
•Brussels Griffin
•Chow Chow
•Japanese Chin
•Lhasa Apso
•Pekinese
•Pit Bull
•Shar Pei
•Shih Tzu
•Tosa
•Akita
•Dogo Argentino
•Fila Brazillero & their crosses


Some are dangerous dogs, but boxers/pugs/bull dogs fall into the snub-nose gang.
Not sure why all terriers are banned though. :-k

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Re: dog obedience training

Postby nakatago » Thu, 15 Jan 2015 9:47 am

JR8 wrote:As StrongEagle alludes, the French Bulldog is a lap-dog, and was bred for that goal. 'High risk' lol, to what, a tennis ball?
So to cut to the point, I think you're dealing with a simple case of mistaken identity. It's not a common breed, and the people you are dealing with are therefore probably not familiar with it. Worse, they're probably hearing/reading 'bulldog' and then simply closing their ears.
Can you ask them what they are using as a reference for the category 'High risk'? And/or provide them with a copy of the banned list that Eagle linked?
What you are facing sounds like a simple misunderstanding, the task is to find where the erroneous hurdle is.

... You don't think that maybe... they're imagining it is in fact a Bulldog from France do you? :o :?
I knew a Singaporean in Europe that owns one, and she would not have bought a breed that she could not bring back to SG.

p.s. Interesting point from CG above. 'High risk' in what way, in transit, or as in dangerous?


I'd like to say, "It's French so when faced with confrontation, it will just surrender.*"

Use the French name? bouledogue Francais


*Yeah, I know it's racist. But it's so easy to offend the French anyway....oops; I did it again.

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Re: dog obedience training

Postby JR8 » Thu, 15 Jan 2015 10:50 am

@CG
[.... the link you quoted from is ...
http://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/trave ... -carriage/ ]

'All terriers' :shock:

The others seem to fall under the category of 'snub-nosed' or 'perceived as aggressive'. But that you can bring in an Alsation/German Shepherd (I have a SGn friend who did) but not a Jack Russell or Border Terrier etc is nuts!

It seemed to make sense to check out BA, after all they are supposedly the 'nation of dog lovers'.

Note this is quoting BA policy, but not from the BA site itself...
'Breed Restrictions: No dangerous dogs, Bulldogs or Pugs are permitted. Other snub nosed pets must travel in crates at least 10% larger than normally required.'
http://www.pettravel.com/airline_pet_ru ... irways.cfm
So there certainly seems to be a pattern and rationale forming here...

http://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/inf ... -with-pets
Their cargo handler is IAG
https://www.iagcargo.com/iagcargo/portl ... ve_animals



... Wow, BA allow dogs in secured carriers in the cabin on the Paris<>NYC route...
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Re: dog obedience training

Postby PatyKuno » Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:38 am

Thank you so much to everyone! The 'high risk' I refer is for the transit due to snub-nosed. So far, it seems only Lufthansa can do it but my doggy will have to go until Germany and then to Singapore.....


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