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[Plavt]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7046224.stm

[rev12000]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7046224.stm

Now, what's with the ACT?!!

[Plavt]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7046224.stm

Now, what's with the ACT?!!

Do you mean ATC (Air Traffic Control)? In case anyone has any concerns; most if not all aircraft can land on autopilot even in thick fog. The reason they don't is because at many airports they cannot see properly on the ground. There hasn't been a mid-air collision over Britain since the 1950's and that's even less likey now as Traffic Collision Avoidance System (TCAS) is mandatory.

[rev12000]

There hasn't been a mid-air collision over Britain since the 1950's and that's even less likey now as Traffic Collision Avoidance System (TCAS) is mandatory.

That's great!

But ...
When the plane is taxiing or on the runway, isn't it the duty of the ACT to advise accordingly? Pilot error?

BA was departuring for SG. Boy, I miss SG.

[Plavt]

When the plane is taxiing or on the runway, isn't it the duty of the ACT to advise accordingly? Pilot error?

The plane wasn't on the runway it was on one of the taxiways. While ATC give clearance they do not monitor every move visibly, that is the responsibility of the pilots. Actually when you leave Heathrow at busy times you can see the pilots watching other aircraft to prevent situaions like the one above. At other airports where they are not familiar they may be given the option of guidance by airport vehicle. So yes pilot error possibly but not for certain.

As another example of ground manoeuvres; when I arrived at Tokyo Narita in 2004 the pilot, because of the angle of the bay could get the plane on to the stand and he had to shut down the engines while a tow-truck pulled the plane into position.

[rev12000]

The plane wasn't on the runway it was on one of the taxiways. While ATC give clearance they do not monitor every move visibly, that is the responsibility of the pilots. Actually when you leave Heathrow at busy times you can see the pilots watching other aircraft to prevent situaions like the one above. At other airports where they are not familiar they may be given the option of guidance by airport vehicle. So yes pilot error possibly but not for certain.

Both the aircrafts were on taxiways? I thought when I last read the article, BA was on the taxiway while the other was on the runway. Thanks anyway, I now have a better understanding.

EVAC EVAC EVAC! Darn, SEP is driving me crazy.
CHEERS!

[Plavt]

Both the aircrafts were on taxiways? I thought when I last read the article, BA was on the taxiway while the other was on the runway. Thanks anyway, I now have a better understanding.

I think what has happened is while one aircraft was turning to line up with the runway the wing has clipped the other so may in part have been on the runway. There seem to be some tight turns at Heathrow which may or may not have been a factor. I notice the graphic doesn't show what the position of the planes were clearly so I don't know accurate the news article is - will look for the AAIB report when it comes out in a few months.

EVAC EVAC EVAC! Darn, SEP is driving me crazy.
CHEERS!

Share it with us if you can - a little something different for the forum rather than those same boring questions like 'what kind of questions do the ask at the management interview - yeuuuk!!

[rev12000]

Share it with us if you can - a little something different for the forum rather than those same boring questions like 'what kind of questions do ... - yeuuuk!!

I've just completed my CS (Cabin Service) last Thursday. Have been on SEP (Safety and Emergency Procedures) training for almost a week now. Will be having my GP (General Paper) Examination tomorrow, it's almost 0300hr here in Doha and I'm still revising on the 4 drills that will be tested tomorrow. EXCUSE ME but 'WORD for WORD'. OMG! As if 6 chapters of informations (400 over pages) is not enough to kill my sanity, memorizing those 4 drills 'word for word 'will. Will be having our wings in another 3 weeks, just completed CS and lots more to go. Meaning, time is a very crucial factor here. Thus, Examinations are scheduled one after another in a very short period of time. It's important that you pay attention in class, else you will have a heavy price to pay when you do revision at home. (try looking through 400 over pages for that one sentance) CS has a book that consist almost 1,000 pages. SEP has 2 books that adds up to almost 2,000 pages. HA! Am laughing, I can't possibly be crying can I? If you do not want a report in your folio that marks you not knowing your stuffs, you better start reading and that's just the beginning. It's a very strict company as most would know. Be a FA of what the company expects of you, else a one way ticket home. HaHaHa! Just kidding ... but the concequences are there though not written. CHEERS!

Good night!