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Another NS thread.

Postby omfgwtfbbq » Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:30 pm

Hi guys , firstly , i'm a PR holding a British passport , I moved here at 6 years old , thereby taking the PRship of Singapore , but am planning to further my studies after secondary school overboard, if i decide to never return to Singapore, isit possible for me to renounce my PRship to skip the national service? I know you guys are against " quitters " , but since i've decided to not come back , I 'd like to get some views on the possibility of renouncing my PRship.

Please keep the hate to minimal ( I'll still get some no doubt )

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:09 pm

The following taken from ICA's website:

National Service Liability
Under the Enlistment Act, all male Singapore Citizens and Permanent Residents (PRs) are liable to register for National Service (NS) upon reaching 16 1/2 years old. They are required to serve 2 years of full-time NS at 18 years old, followed by 40 days of Operationally Ready National Service per year till the age of 50 years (for officers) or 40 years (for other ranks).

Main applicants who are granted PR status under the first generation Professionals/Technical Personnel and Skilled Workers (PTS) Scheme or the Investor Scheme are exempted from NS. Male children who are granted PR status under their parents' sponsorship are liable for NS upon reaching 16 1/2 years old.

NS-liable PRs are expected to serve NS. Should they renounce or lose their PR status without serving or completing full-time NS, this would have an adverse impact on any application by them to work or study in Singapore.

Male ex-Singapore Citizens and ex-Singapore Permanent Residents who are granted Singapore PR status are liable to be called up for NS regardless of the type of PR status they are granted. For further enquires, please write to:

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Postby omfgwtfbbq » Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:04 am

So if i decide not to study / ever come back , i can leave without a bond ? Will my family get into trouble for it ? I have a brother who's also planning to go overseas to advance, will he be barred from it ?

Thanks alot sundaymorningstaple for your information , but if you have any personal views do put them out , thanks!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 10 Oct 2007 1:28 pm

omfgwtfbbq wrote:So if i decide not to study / ever come back , i can leave without a bond ? Will my family get into trouble for it ? I have a brother who's also planning to go overseas to advance, will he be barred from it ?

Thanks alot sundaymorningstaple for your information , but if you have any personal views do put them out , thanks!


As can be seen from the Piano Man saga, the Government here has a very long memory when it's convenient. :-|

As long as you have a UK passport you should have not problems leaving with or without the bond (though I don't recommend it at all). Will your family be in trouble? Depends if they posted the bond or you did (they'll lose their bond). At the end of the day, it might have ramifications on the PR status of your parents (PR is not a right and they can rescind it at any time) I would also hazard a guess that it could shaft your brother as well because they would probably flag his passport so even if he did try to go it would set off the alarm bells. I'm only guessing here but it would stand to reason don't you think?

You most definitely would never be allowed to reside here or work here without doing your NS though. do you know what you will be doing in twenty years? You can never tell where you might want to work or where your employer might want to send you. So why burn bridges?

My opinions only. :wink:

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Postby omfgwtfbbq » Wed, 10 Oct 2007 5:57 pm

Herm , I hold a British passport as i was from HK originally. I'm planning to leave at 16 , and my brother is a year younger. He wants to leave at 17 ~ 18 , would he face trouble leaving if i break off my PR ? Would i still need to pay a bond after i break off the PR ? Thanks for your help !


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