Parka,They are priced generally competitively with PCs of the same specs.
That statement is a real joke. It's obvious that you are deluded or working for apple to believe that.
Actually they are very cheap. A macbook Pro in the UK costs about S$6000 so believe me when I say its cheaper.The Macbooks are still priced quite alright in my opinion. But the Macbook Pro (MBP) in Singapore is really seriously ridiculously overpriced. Just recently, I had a friend who bought a similar specs computer at around $2400. That's like $788 cheaper than the MBP!!!
Another friend of mine bought a desktop of quad core processor at around $2600. That's like $1000 cheaper than my own desktop, the Mac Pro (and I had to get the cheaper refurbished version).
So what's the difference? Same hardware, insanely different pricing. The difference is in OSX. If not, no one in the right mind would buy a Mac for it's physically beautiful computers. But even beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I surely won't buy it without OSX.
So unless you know what you want. You probably won't buy these two.
Try getting a taxi when it raining or rush hour. The buses have bus lanes. Quite often the bus is faster.Another analogy I normally use is to compare the Mac and PC to the taxi and bus. Sure they can take you to the same destination and the taxi cost more. But which one takes the shorter time?
Not really S$6000. That's too much. I had to check the apple store website to actually confirm. But still the base model is about S$3800, very expensive!ukdesigner wrote:
Actually they are very cheap. A macbook Pro in the UK costs about S$6000 so believe me when I say its cheaper.
And when you say same architecture you are completely wrong. They are massively different. See the specs and you will understand. The Mac pros are quad core and the macbook pros are duo core 2's. The Mac pros can take about 16GB or is it more! of ram alone (can't remember specifically), and have expansion ports etc etc.
I agree its down to the individuals needs ultimately. I have spent 8 years on macs and love them but then again I need them really for my work. I have had PC's and to be really honest end up getting annoyed with them purely because I prefer the way the macs OS runs in comparison to windows.No argument there but not worth the price differential to me.
I have just checked the UK applestore and a macbook pro starts from £1300 so yes you're right about the S$3800. It was my mistake. What I meant to say was that the top end macbook pro (the professional one I mean) is £1959 which translates to just under S$6000. Based on the singapore applestore price of S$5195. That's a huge difference in price. Naturally the UK has a higher tax bracket which will reflect some of the difference but the costs here for computers and software are vastly cheaper than the UK. That's what I meant to say. These top end machines are designed for business users and are subjected to constant heavy use. Whilst naturally I'd love apple to drop their prices I feel in the end I would probably end up with an inferior product and in my business I cannot afford to have my machine in and out of the shop. Yes, they do go wrong. Yes they do break, but ultimately I am paying a premium for a quality branded product that to be honest I NEED. Apple know that and are capitalising on it. You would do so too if you were in their position.Not really S$6000. That's too much. I had to check the apple store website to actually confirm. But still the base model is about S$3800, very expensive!
I understand what you're saying but a mac pro is exactly that... a professional machine so you can only really compare it like for like. If you deal in high-end graphics which the mac pros are designed for then you need to compare against a similar pc machine. Mac Pros don't come with monitors so you'd have to add that in. Most are run with 2 or even 4 monitors, some even 30" ones, so as I said, this is a top end machine and shouldn't be compared against a standard Dell machine for example.For the second paragraph, I'm actually trying to compare the laptop to laptop and desktop to desktop
Macbooks can only install OSX. 1 operating system to rule them all. It's only when you get into servers do you find that there is a different version, naturally designed for a specific task. So when you compared the computers and said about the OS you were incorrect. There is also only mac OSX available these days. They can ONLY run OSX. Gone are the days of system 7, 8 & 9. They can't be run on the new machines only the older ones.In fact, if the Macbook can't install OS X, it's just worth as much as the cheapest PC. The only premium I see comes from OSX, in this case $238 difference.
durain wrote:people, you are scaring the original poster off!
just chill and no more debate about mac or PC is better or vice versa because both are good. it all depends what the user need or want it for.
ex-user of powermac duo, newton, quicktake 100 (still got it!)
now a lenovo X61 and hp xw6400 windows XP user
Ha! The mouse being the consumer right! Good salesman technique for you! This is what your neighbour purchased only yesterday, "well haven't you anything better says the consumer" Salesman: Well we only have this, but it's double the price, mind you, see who you can impress with it and check out the reviews! (All reviews done by employees):lol:doctorpc wrote:There's a chinese saying that says white cat, black cat, brown cat are all good cats as long as they catch the mouse as well.
So note the one that catches your eye and scour the net how good/bad it is at "catching the mouse".
I like many others no longer bother upgrading, and an apple running intel processors is ok as some people run both Mac OS and Windows for whatever reasaon (can't do that on a Dell ). In addition the hardware is a good deal more reliable. One can argue they are more expensive but cheap machines give more trouble than enough!sundaymorningstaple wrote: Is it easy to upgrade? definitely NOT. So why blow that much money for what is now an un-upgradable Apple running Intel processors? Doesn't make much sense to me?
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