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Post by perplex_sheep » Mon, 24 Sep 2007 9:24 am

I am sure some dive shop will emphasis that PADI is more recognised than SSI, etc,etc. To me, its nothing more than a marketing gimmick. Most dive resorts have more than 1 dive shop, and if this dive shop dont recognise SSI, just walk 2 shops down and I am sure another dive shop will recognise SSI. Its really no big hoo-haa...

Honestly, I never really have any problems when I go out diving as well. In fact, most of the time, they dont really ask me for my dive card. I merely told them that I am an advanced diver and they seems to take my word for it. Not the best policy, but as long as i get to enjoy my dive, i am happy with it. Most of the divemaster are very nice whenever i am out diving.

As the dive is next week, it will be good for you to let me know if you can join in. Just PM me and we can take this off-line.

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Re: Diving

Post by Superglide » Mon, 24 Sep 2007 9:40 am

perplex_sheep wrote:In fact, most of the time, they dont really ask me for my dive card. I merely told them that I am an advanced diver and they seems to take my word for it. Not the best policy, but as long as i get to enjoy my dive, i am happy with it. Most of the divemaster are very nice whenever i am out diving.
Talkin about marketing.

Not really good PR for diving...

PADI or SSI has got nothing to do with a marketing gig bro, but everything with the fact that when entering a PADI dive center, you need to give your PADI cert in order to get your equipment. As a rule, the stuff will only be rented out to you when being a PADI certified diver.

Now one can say here that in 22 years that has never been encountered, but I fur sure know that the reality is different. Being a former PADI dive instructor myself, I have had numerous occasions, where some backpacker said he could dive like the best, but forgot to bring his cert. No problem, just give me your name and birthday and I'll check it up. The backpacker of course wasn't certified.

Imagine taking them down, based on their nice blue eyes and something goes wrong down there.

Who's to blame?

The instructor, right?

So you can laugh it away and say it is all about you being happy with enjoying your dive, but that exactly shows your lack of seriousness about scuba diving.

Now I won't further spoil your thread, as that is not my point.

Just hope you realize that by saying here what you are saying, you sure as hell would not be my dive buddy.
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Post by james_sgp » Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:23 am

There seems to be a little confusion brewing here! PADI & SSI are agencies that certify divers, when you go diving for leisure (fun) it does not matter which one you are certified with! They are both (as well as many other agencies SDI/TDI, Naui, BSAC, etc) internationally recognised.

If a dive centre tells you that you can not dive with the as you don`t have a PADI certification; IMHO "GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!" they obviously aren`t interested in your business!

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Dont kill the messenger...

Post by perplex_sheep » Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:24 am

Cool it superglide... I am sure you are a very experienced dive instructors who takes your role very seriously.

Please note that I am not trying to play down on the importance of safety when it comes to diving. However, a dive master shouldnt be the one taking full responsible for the actions of a diver. Everyone have to take some responsibility for their own life.

Inevitably, there are going to be stupid people who thinks too highly of themselves, and decide to dive without getting the proper certification. If they choose to be stupid, there is really nothing I can do, right?

I know I have my dive cards with me, whenever I dive. I am merely saying that, pretty often, they didnt request for me to show them the card itself. I am not saying that the practice of some of the dive shops are the best ("Note to self, i remember saying that its not the best policy."). What I am merely saying is, despite the imperfect practice, I still managed to have a good time during the dive.

I would assume that the forum is a place and space to share experience, and for this particular thread, for divers or interested divers to share their experience. That's what I am doing, so dont kill the messenger.

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Post by Superglide » Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:41 pm

james_Singapore wrote:There seems to be a little confusion brewing here! PADI & SSI are agencies that certify divers, when you go diving for leisure (fun) it does not matter which one you are certified with! They are both (as well as many other agencies SDI/TDI, Naui, BSAC, etc) internationally recognised.

If a dive centre tells you that you can not dive with the as you don`t have a PADI certification; IMHO "GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!" they obviously aren`t interested in your business!
Read better bro...

If you cannot show your cert, they will not rent out equipment like a bcd and alike to you, those are the rules I was referring to.

So your remarks are not relevant.

As said, do better reading before writing.
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Post by Superglide » Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:44 pm

perplex_sheep wrote:I would assume that the forum is a place and space to share experience, and for this particular thread, for divers or interested divers to share their experience. That's what I am doing, so dont kill the messenger.
Agree, that's what I am doing, sharing experience.

I ain't killing you man!
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Re: Diving

Post by perplex_sheep » Mon, 24 Sep 2007 2:20 pm

Superglide wrote: So you can laugh it away and say it is all about you being happy with enjoying your dive, but that exactly shows your lack of seriousness about scuba diving.

Just hope you realize that by saying here what you are saying, you sure as hell would not be my dive buddy.
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Agree, that's what I am doing, sharing experience.

I ain't killing you man!
Either its a very different style in experience sharing or it sound like someone need anger management course...

I must be at fault. My bad...

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Post by Superglide » Tue, 25 Sep 2007 1:48 pm

Haha!

A raw nerve and you had to get "nasty"?

Your nick suits you! :D

Now go dive boy, enjoy it!
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