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will be offered as a citizen after NS?

Post by ellehcor » Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:55 am

I would like to ask if it is true that after the NS of a PR, he would be offered to become a singapore citizen?
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 25 Aug 2007 1:21 pm

Yes that is correct. If a PR does NS he will be offered Citizenship should he desire it. Obviously it is not mandatory as he may well be reluctant to renounce he old citizenship. Course in a lot of Western countries they really don't care if you hold dual citizenship. Singapore is the one with the hangup about dual citizenship.

Edited: Above data no longer correct. My apologies. See posts further down this thread.

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Post by ellehcor » Sun, 26 Aug 2007 9:30 pm

What do you mean about "hangup about dual citizenship?". Could you explain it to me?

Actually, me and my boyfriend were talking about this. We don't know if he will stay as a PR or accept the offer.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:47 pm

It means that once you reach the age a majority (21) you must renounce any other citizenships you hold in other countries according to Singapore law if you want to gain Singapore Citizenship. Minor children may hold dual citizenship until they reach 21 at have to take the oath of allegience and renounce the other country's citizenship.

Course if you are coming from a 3rd world country then it might make sense.
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Post by Bafana » Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:27 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Yes that is correct. If a PR does NS he will be offered Citizenship should he desire it. Obviously it is not mandatory as he may well be reluctant to renounce he old citizenship. Course in a lot of Western countries they really don't care if you hold dual citizenship. Singapore is the one with the hangup about dual citizenship.
Don't like disagrreing with you mate but there have been cases where people have done there NS (pr and foreigners) and they have still been refused Citizenship - Not nice after two years then no go as well.

My advice is to check with the NS people.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 27 Aug 2007 3:29 pm

Bafana wrote: Don't like disagrreing with you mate but there have been cases where people have done there NS (pr and foreigners) and they have still been refused Citizenship - Not nice after two years then no go as well.

My advice is to check with the NS people.
No Probs. I stand corrected. My info is apparently considerably out of date. I found the following in the FAQ's on the ICA site as well as on a few legal sites as well:

You are here: Home > Citizen Services > Citizenship > Citizenship Application > Frequently Asked Questions

Citizenship Application - Frequently Asked Questions

If I have completed National Service (NS), do I automatically become a Singapore citizen?
No. You will still need to apply personally but we would consider your NS term when assessing the application.
So now it is becoming a crapshoot. Now can get killed in a training accident and possibly not able to get citizenship either. Might have to start changing my position on this whole issue! Thanks Baf. That was interesting to say the least (although is doesn't help my situation as my kid already has dual citizenship anyway - so doomed already).
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Post by ellehcor » Tue, 28 Aug 2007 4:38 pm

so this mean that he still have to apply for citizenship?

Oh not good.. I think he should stay as PR. That is much better.
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Post by ellehcor » Mon, 03 Sep 2007 9:00 am

BTW, which is better? to be Singaporean or just remain PR?
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Post by Bafana » Mon, 03 Sep 2007 9:41 am

PR is good enough :cool:
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Post by Superglide » Mon, 03 Sep 2007 2:20 pm

I second Bafana, just be a PR.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 03 Sep 2007 2:22 pm

After 25 years here and 15+ as a PR. Go with the PR only!
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Post by Taoism32 » Wed, 05 Sep 2007 5:36 pm

If you are an American Citizen, you will still be subject to taxes for the income that you make in Singapore. Some American Citizens has given up their citizenship because of this reason. Otherwise, I see no other reason to become a Singapore Citizen.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 05 Sep 2007 7:05 pm

Taoism32 wrote:If you are an American Citizen, you will still be subject to taxes for the income that you make in Singapore. Some American Citizens has given up their citizenship because of this reason. Otherwise, I see no other reason to become a Singapore Citizen.
Frankly it would take a hell of a lot more than that for me to give up my blue passport for a red one. And I've been subject to double taxation for 25 years now. :cool:
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Post by ellehcor » Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:15 am

oh.. thanks!! next time i will ask the benefit of a PR. But if anyone knew. please post. thanks!
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