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Renouncing citizenship.

Postby Dyum » Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:53 pm

Hello! I have a question about renouncing my citizenship.

I was born originally in Indonesia and I don't know how my parents got me a Singapore citizenship when I'm at a very young age. I lived in Indonesia for 9 years and now I've move to Singapore and lived for 7 years. After much thinking, I had enough of staying here and planned to move out to Canada to stay, live and work permanently.

I've read infos from Canada CIC web and Singapore's ICA web.

I know I'm a little young, (16 years old) but there's nothing wrong with planning early.

How do I renounce my citizenship and move to Canada ?

Thank you!

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Re: Renouncing citizenship.

Postby Plavt » Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:59 pm

Dyum wrote:How do I renounce my citizenship and move to Canada ?



You can't simple as that (anybody know different?); the only way you acquire citizenship of another country is if you have a legitimate right to live in that country. This will depend on the criteria set by the government of the country in question, Canada like anybody else has enough citizens' of it own to worry about.

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Re: Renouncing citizenship.

Postby ksl » Fri, 17 Aug 2007 8:09 am

Dyum wrote:Hello! I have a question about renouncing my citizenship.

I was born originally in Indonesia and I don't know how my parents got me a Singapore citizenship when I'm at a very young age. I lived in Indonesia for 9 years and now I've move to Singapore and lived for 7 years. After much thinking, I had enough of staying here and planned to move out to Canada to stay, live and work permanently.

I've read infos from Canada CIC web and Singapore's ICA web.

I know I'm a little young, (16 years old) but there's nothing wrong with planning early.

How do I renounce my citizenship and move to Canada ?

Thank you!


You must first qualify for Canadian Citizenship, which means you will have to seek approval to reside and work there. I don't know how many years you must reside and work in Canada, before applying for Citizenship.

Some Countries allow dual Citizenship, those that do not allow dual citizenship will take your passport and destroy it or return it, to the Country of origin. Once you have changed Citizenship, you can then consider renouncing the old one, but first you must fulfil the criteria for citizenship.

Always wise to make plans and seek info from the departments of authority!

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Re: Renouncing citizenship.

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 17 Aug 2007 6:47 pm

Dyum wrote:Hello! I have a question about renouncing my citizenship.

I was born originally in Indonesia and I don't know how my parents got me a Singapore citizenship when I'm at a very young age. I lived in Indonesia for 9 years and now I've move to Singapore and lived for 7 years. After much thinking, I had enough of staying here and planned to move out to Canada to stay, live and work permanently.

I've read infos from Canada CIC web and Singapore's ICA web.

I know I'm a little young, (16 years old) but there's nothing wrong with planning early.

How do I renounce my citizenship and move to Canada ?

Thank you!


You cannot renounce you citizenship until after you reach your 21st birthday.

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renouncing my citizenship

Postby sgp88 » Tue, 21 Aug 2007 6:04 pm

Are you afraid serving the National Service? Since the country has contributed so much for you and your family. It's time you should do your part on return.

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Postby Plavt » Tue, 21 Aug 2007 6:22 pm

sgp88 wrote:Are you afraid serving the National Service? Since the country has contributed so much for you and your family. It's time you should do your part on return.



This was not mentioned in the OP's post and it is presumptuous of you to assume that it has anything to with it. There may be many reasons why somebody would wish to give up citizenship and many, if not all of us may never know the truth from a forum.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:44 am

Actually, it's not presumptuous at all. 90% of all family that immigrate that have male children do it to avoid the NS obligation as they feel it is a waste of 2 years that they kids could be earning a better education. The first question I ALWAYS have asked by Singaporean in social gatherings (those with families anyway) is why didn't I get MY son out of Singapore and avoid his doing NS. It is generally assumed here that if you can you will get out of the country. That is why they have such stringent policies as to how young you must be in order renounce (11 years) or after reaching majority (21 years) which is after NS obligation.

The OP's parents probably Jumped through Hoops to get him Singaporean Citizenship and to get him out of Indonesia. I will "assume" the the OP is Indonesian Chinese which would explain getting him out of Indonesia. Now, just as he jumped ship from his country of birth, he wants to jump ship in Singapore when it's about to become unpleasant here (NS). He is what the PM calls a "quitter". Assuming? Yes. Probability of being right? probably 99.999%. We've seen it all to often.

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Postby Plavt » Wed, 22 Aug 2007 1:24 am

The fact is the OP has not stated his reasons for wanting to renounce his citizenship even if that is the reason! While you mention it, I can sympathize with those who think NS is a waste of time which it too often is here in Europe in those countries where it still remains compulsory. As for the OP's 'jumping ship' from his home country that was not his choice that was his parents. So much for your rant. :tongue:

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 22 Aug 2007 9:36 am

Plavt,

While I agree with you in principle, it's different here on the ground. Anyway, you jumped on sgp88 when he didn't assume anything at all. He just asked a question. How Now? :-s

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Postby ksl » Wed, 22 Aug 2007 9:46 am

Swings & roundabouts dear watson! :lol:

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Postby Plavt » Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:59 pm

Sms,
sq88's whole post insinuates that it is because the OP doesn't want to do National Service, he could have asked an entirely different question (e.g. Why do you want to renounce citizenship?).

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Postby cutiebutie » Mon, 10 Sep 2007 6:30 pm

I also want to say that renouncing your citizenship is not like changing your car.
Also you need to have another citizenship before you can even think of doing it. Maybe your parents should have stayed in Indonesia to give you more time to think

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 10 Sep 2007 6:48 pm

cutiebutie wrote:I also want to say that renouncing your citizenship is not like changing your car.
Also you need to have another citizenship before you can even think of doing it. Maybe your parents should have stayed in Indonesia to give you more time to think


If my hunch is correct, his parents are probably still IN Indonesia. Generally they try to get the kids out of the country into Singapore to go to school and gain either PR or Citizenship. They generally have them living with a relative here. The parents probablyhave a goodly portion of their assets/investments here as well as the kid(s) so that they have a bolt-hole if they need it.

I know it's an assumption but I know of many instances of exactly this type of scenario so I am just guessing here....

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Postby Dyum » Wed, 26 Sep 2007 9:16 pm

Hi again, thanks for replies.

I'm not afraid of doing National Slavery for that 2 years, I'm just planning ahead so I know what to do when I grew up.

Many said it's not as easy as I think it is, that is why I would like to know the process of renouncing a citizenship.

Both of my parents are here, in Singapore as my Dad is a Singaporean and Mum is an Indonesian.

Thanks again!

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Postby ukdesigner » Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:50 pm

I'm not afraid of doing National Slavery for that 2 years, I'm just planning ahead so I know what to do when I grew up.


well that p*ssed on everyones fireworks didn't it...... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Don't p*ss me off! I am running out of places to hide the bodies.


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