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What is Confinement?

Post by Amelia Camelia » Fri, 27 Jul 2007 1:17 pm

Hello !

I'm really curious about confinement - this is probably more a question for the Singaporeans/Asians among us....

As I understand it - new mummies stay indoors for a month and I've heard they don't wash their hair (but I think that's more a Chinese superstition?) and eat certain foods...

Just wondering what it's all about and the benefits. I see you can have a confinement nanny too!

I don't think it's for me. I was out in the cold English weather with my firstborn when he was 8 days old (all wrapped up though), but it would be nice to have an insight as to why mummies do it.

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Post by abbby » Fri, 27 Jul 2007 7:47 pm

Amelia Camelia wrote:Hello !

I'm really curious about confinement - this is probably more a question for the Singaporeans/Asians among us....

As I understand it - new mummies stay indoors for a month and I've heard they don't wash their hair (but I think that's more a Chinese superstition?) and eat certain foods...

Just wondering what it's all about and the benefits. I see you can have a confinement nanny too!

I don't think it's for me. I was out in the cold English weather with my firstborn when he was 8 days old (all wrapped up though), but it would be nice to have an insight as to why mummies do it.

AC
Confinement is being practised by mainly Asians and Chinese, from my understanding, pregnant women loses a lot of nutrients after giving birth and there are bodily changes like bloating as wind gets trapped in the stomach. Therefore, food like vinegar pig trotters are eaten as vinegar helps to expel wind quickly from the stomach. Ginger and wine also helps in the process. So dishes are cooked heavily in ginger, wine (mainly chinese wine like 'Hua Diao jiu'). And during confinement, women are not supposed to consume water but a drink like boiled longan drink ( I think!) as water contains air.

They can only take fruits like apples and pears.

They can't wash hair for a month because they could suffer from rheumatism, body aches and pains in the later years.

Confinement nannies duties are mainly to cook meals for the mothers.

That's my experience with someone I know who's gone through confinement. :)
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 28 Jul 2007 8:58 am

I've known some who have tried it both ways and after wasting the time one the confinement swore they would never do it again. My wife only made it through half a confinement before she said the hell with this BS. Hasn't seemed to bother her yet and the last one 18 years ago. I guess if you believe in superstition then you could have psychosomatic symptions (kinda like the silly heaty & cooling foods BS - that only seems to affect asians).

I suppose if you hear about it all your life your subconscious mind will cause you to experience symptoms and the mind is a powerful organ.
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Post by chixchix » Sat, 28 Jul 2007 9:24 am

I probably think that mummy doesnt go out for 1 mth after birth so as not to attract " spirits". For myself, my mum used to tell me never to drink cold water and not to wash hair too often,but I tend to wash everyday.
Also ,not to sleep in front of the fan. Our body needs to sweat.

Usually the massage lady who used to come in could easily tell if I have been listening.But do take care if you can if not later you easily will have knee aches..or what the Asians call it " wind entering the body".

I wished I had listened :? heheheh anyways ,do keep that tummy with a corset..it really helps to get that pouch flat..
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:51 pm

chixchix wrote: I wished I had listened :? heheheh anyways ,do keep that tummy with a corset..it really helps to get that pouch flat..
So does crunches / situps and any other type of regular exercise regime.

The old timers used to stop working long enough to give birth in the padi fields and then continued on their way after a breather. I

t's good to sleep under a ceiling fan. It does not stop you from sweating - aircons will however as the temperature is lowered. The cooling effect of a fan is the evaporation of sweat thereby causing the cooling effect. This is good. A good belch or fart will relieve the wind syndrome a lot easier and faster! :wink: See even older solutions for the problem. Superstitious bunch you all are I'll say that! :P
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Re: What is Confinement?

Post by babynurse » Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:53 pm

Amelia Camelia wrote:Hello !

I'm really curious about confinement - this is probably more a question for the Singaporeans/Asians among us....

As I understand it - new mummies stay indoors for a month and I've heard they don't wash their hair (but I think that's more a Chinese superstition?) and eat certain foods...

Just wondering what it's all about and the benefits. I see you can have a confinement nanny too!

I don't think it's for me. I was out in the cold English weather with my firstborn when he was 8 days old (all wrapped up though), but it would be nice to have an insight as to why mummies do it.

AC
hi

i worked with a lot of postnatal mothers and find that confinement is just a matter of perception....sometimes its very hard to change those that are unhealthy stuff involved in them like not bathing, not drinking water (except logan tea or etc),

then u could see the caucasian moms drinking ice water and bathing doing well as welll

so confinement to me is taking care of urself during your postnatal period. thats it. when there is mood swings due to hormanal changes to breast engorgements...its all about being aware and getting to know ur resources and getting help when u need it the most

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Post by kirstyL » Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:41 am

Aside from all the superstitiious BS as you say, confinement orginates from much older times. They main purpose of it was more practical then spiritual, but of course that's where all the old wives tales come in like dont drink this or that etc just to scare girls into doing what they are told. But mainly it was for a few purposes, one is that because of the blood loss, and the mess it creates, in the old times, no such thing as maternity pads etc and no such thing as stitches and what not, so you would stay home and away from non family members until you had recovered from post natal bleeding, which generally would take a month. The other reason is to give new mums and babies the chance to bond and have some alone time. Also gives mum a chance to regain her strength and what not. As for not washing and all this, that is crap, but it goes along with the asian mentality that anything cold or wet will cause you to get sick. Of course this is a mental issue and I do know people who will get sick if they even sip cold water, but like someone else mentioned its all in the mind. So the original concept was a more sensible arrangement. Of course these days its just tradition, wrapped up with a lot of supersition. As for confinement nannies, yes they say you have a lot of wind blah blah and they massage your body for you. I am sorry to say, but i had after birth massage and it did not help my figure one little bit. If you do not do the excercise that goes along with it then you wont get the benefit. Although, some girls (especially naturally smaller girls) have no problem recovering their shape after birth, and would find that this would happen even without the massage and what not. My sister is like that. She has 2 kids weighs 45kg and not a single sign of pregnancy(she did not do confinement ever, probably doesnt even know it exists).

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Post by earthfriendly » Fri, 14 Sep 2007 6:02 am

Delivering a baby is considered a major surgery for asians. Confinement is like recoupment period following a surgery. The main idea is to get plenty of rest with little distraction and nourish your body with nutritional food. Hence confinement lady will be on duty round-the-clock to take care of the infant and cook for a period of one month.

There are many customs and food cooked specifically for confinement. It does vary with the confinement maid you hire. Common dishes / items include pigs trotter, chicken, ginger, herbs, sesame seed oil and rice wine. The whole diet thing is a bit of specialized knowledge and one needs to know how to pair the herbs to accomplish certain purpose e.g. breastmilk production etc. I can't stand pigs trotters nor ginger and instead got plenty of steam fish, chicken cooked in herbal soup, chicken essense (steaming the chicken, collect the drip and mix it up with wine) and logan drink. Friends who visited me on my first confinement commented about the radiance and pinkish glow on my face, which I never had in my entire life. The confinement maid was an excellent cook and knew what she was doing. Unfortunately she retired and the second one was not as good.

The concept of confinement is closely tied to the notion of restorative / therapy diet that is so prevalent to the chinese. There is little information available in English. This I found pertains to Taiwan but the concept is very smiliar. You can read more about it at http://www.shirleeposner.com/archives/c ... ticles.php

I don't know how helpful it is in helping the woman regain the figure. I have yet to see scientific proof. It may help to some extent as it gives the body a chance for total rest and return to its (or close to) former glory. However, I have also seen women who gain a lot of post-pregnancy weight after their confinement. Genetic plays a part too.
Traditionally these women were cooked for and cared for by their mother or mother-in-law, but nowadays this is not always possible. Enterprises such as the Wellcare Health Co., which sponsored the cookbook, are attempting to fill the niche. You can either stay at one of their clinics, where they will care for you and the baby, or you can opt to have the food delivered to your home every day for a month, at a cost of about NT$70,000. The cookbook was meant for those who wish to follow the practice with home cooking.

With the help of the company director, we cooked, styled, and photographed 64 dishes in three days. Some came from Wellcare¡'s factory near the Qili An MRT Station in Shipai, and some we made from scratch. Featured in many of the dishes were copious amounts of ginger, rice wine, and sesame oil, all of which are considered to be warm foods, along with strange (to me) roots, berries, twigs, and bark.

It is no wonder that Taiwanese mothers recover so well after having a baby. Doing the month includes complete bed rest, round-the-clock help with the baby, and a carefully planned restorative diet. It must work, because new Taiwanese mothers seem to look fabulous, get their pre-baby figure back in record time, and can face the arduous task of parenting from a nurtured beginning. It was clear to me that there had to be something pretty special about Chinese medicinal cuisine, so I did some background reading.

Food therapy for survival

Historians believe that Chinese Food Therapy (CFT) originated around 2000 B.C., but the earliest records that have been found date from 500 B.C. The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Internal Medicine, also known as the Neijing, was written around 300 B.C. and became the CFT bible. It classified foods according to four food groups and five elements (wood, fire, earth, metal, and water), as well as by their basic natures and characteristics. Although modern approaches continue to evolve, the fundamentals have remained much the same.
In the old days, the MIL usually do the confinement but in modern days, people hire the professionals since many, like myself, are quite clueless on what it entails.

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Post by Fusi » Mon, 24 Sep 2007 9:10 am

As a first time 'elderly' Scottish mother, I had no help, family too far to come regularly, no friends with babies, husband studying, I was ON MY OWN! When I heard of this Asian confinement, I nearly died of jealousy. I would even have eaten pigs trotters and put up with all kinds of 'BS' to have avoided my experience in the first 4 months of motherhood. I looked about 10 years older by then. The only imput I had was a midwife came up to me in a supermarket to say my baby was too young to be out and about, he was 30 hours old.I agreed wholeheartedly.
Lovely baby though, he's 16 now and still keeping me up at night.

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