Have you got any form of deposit withheld by the landlord, maybe one month's rent?amode wrote: Do you think I should pay up my July rent? Do you think they could come to the flat and change the lock to my room if I don't do so?
Most certainly not! I would advise you not to pay, I would rather invest in a pair of bolt cutters, to cut off the padlock! Just call the police if they do put a lock on, after you cut it off, because you are being harassed to leave! If you do have a months deposit paid, do not pay july's rent, your contract is probably void, due to the sale, if it is stated within the contract that you must move out!amode wrote:The same thing just happened to me! I have just received an SMS text message from my agent yesterday (3 July) telling us that all tenants in Le Chateau must move out by end of July, due to the En-bloc situation (gosh, don't I hate that word!). No moving compensation will be given, and demanded me to pay in my rent for the month of July.
I signed a 1-year contract that will only end at the end of August, and the contract says that in the case of termination, either party give 1-month notice in writing. But I am not sure if the contract is stamped! I am sure the agent was aware of the En-bloc, but refused to tell us the truth, but kept telling us that there should be still about another year to go on before they tear down the place. Now I know why they refused to fix leaking toilets and aircons.
So here I am, getting kicked out of my room soon, and I only have 3 more months to serve in Singapore. I can't even find an affordable short-term room to reside till I leave this place, I may be sleeping on the streets soon!
Do you think I should pay up my July rent? Do you think they could come to the flat and change the lock to my room if I don't do so?
To amode,amode wrote: Do you think I should pay up my July rent? Do you think they could come to the flat and change the lock to my room if I don't do so?
I would consider putting that contract in the bin.LBS03 wrote:Hello all, I am on the verge of signing a lease (first time in Singapore). I was given a letter of intent to sign - and I wanted to ask if the following terms are 'typical' of leases here. Am especially worried about the clause re air-conditioners etc as I have no idea re how good / bad they actually are.
Stamp Duty:
The cost of stamping of the Tenancy Agreement and in duplicate is to be borne by the Tenant.
Air-conditioners:
Tenant is to be responsible for the services, maintenance of the air conditioners system and any repair and replacement of the parts due to fair wear and tear through out the term hereby created.
Diplomatic clause:
The Tenant may terminate this Agreement after 12 months by giving the Landlord not less than 2 month’s notice in writing or by paying 2 month’s rental in lieu of notice.
Tenancy Work:
Servicing of all air-conditioners unit, ensure all electrical appliance and sanitary are in good working condition prior to the handover.
.....
Any thoughts / ideas would be greatly appreciated.
ksl,ksl wrote:I would consider putting that contract in the bin.LBS03 wrote:Hello all, I am on the verge of signing a lease (first time in Singapore). I was given a letter of intent to sign - and I wanted to ask if the following terms are 'typical' of leases here. Am especially worried about the clause re air-conditioners etc as I have no idea re how good / bad they actually are.
Stamp Duty:
The cost of stamping of the Tenancy Agreement and in duplicate is to be borne by the Tenant.
Air-conditioners:
Tenant is to be responsible for the services, maintenance of the air conditioners system and any repair and replacement of the parts due to fair wear and tear through out the term hereby created.
Diplomatic clause:
The Tenant may terminate this Agreement after 12 months by giving the Landlord not less than 2 month’s notice in writing or by paying 2 month’s rental in lieu of notice.
Tenancy Work:
Servicing of all air-conditioners unit, ensure all electrical appliance and sanitary are in good working condition prior to the handover.
.....
Any thoughts / ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Stamp duty I would have thought was the responsibility of the Landlord, along with the servicing and maintenance of the air conditioning, of which are not your concern.
For one thing you have no idea of the condition of these units, for another thing if they are new, they should be under warranty, last but not least evironmental health safety of fixed items are the Landlords problem, including gas, water, electricity and with air cons the law is very strict, because of the viruses and bacteria these machines will make if not serviced correctly.
1 month is the norm on a 12 month contract and the tenant can terminate the contract when he want's providing he, pays the difference! What you need is a contract that is fair, not all in there favour.
So discuss with them, and come to a happy medium, although commonsense should also prevail over fixed items in the home, are always the landlords responsibility. Tell him if you are held responible for air cons, then you want all new air cons installed, why should you pay for previous tenants usage!
Don't forget to photograph any previous damage, scratches, holes, or marks in bathrooms and kitchen. with regards cleaning! Also check fans are cleaned and light fittings, because they will bill you for anything, its easy money for them, and they intend to keep some of the deposit.
I gave my honest opinion, that i would consider putting it in the bin! Until it showed some fairness towards the tenant. I think the usual MARKET STANDARD is a little different in these unusual MARKET TRENDS, where money doesn't grow on trees! Maybe the IEA should get together and create a more tenant friendly contract, like going 50/50 on the fees for example!Pal wrote:ksl,ksl wrote:I would consider putting that contract in the bin.LBS03 wrote:Hello all, I am on the verge of signing a lease (first time in Singapore). I was given a letter of intent to sign - and I wanted to ask if the following terms are 'typical' of leases here. Am especially worried about the clause re air-conditioners etc as I have no idea re how good / bad they actually are.
Stamp Duty:
The cost of stamping of the Tenancy Agreement and in duplicate is to be borne by the Tenant.
Air-conditioners:
Tenant is to be responsible for the services, maintenance of the air conditioners system and any repair and replacement of the parts due to fair wear and tear through out the term hereby created.
Diplomatic clause:
The Tenant may terminate this Agreement after 12 months by giving the Landlord not less than 2 month’s notice in writing or by paying 2 month’s rental in lieu of notice.
Tenancy Work:
Servicing of all air-conditioners unit, ensure all electrical appliance and sanitary are in good working condition prior to the handover.
.....
Any thoughts / ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Stamp duty I would have thought was the responsibility of the Landlord, along with the servicing and maintenance of the air conditioning, of which are not your concern.
For one thing you have no idea of the condition of these units, for another thing if they are new, they should be under warranty, last but not least evironmental health safety of fixed items are the Landlords problem, including gas, water, electricity and with air cons the law is very strict, because of the viruses and bacteria these machines will make if not serviced correctly.
1 month is the norm on a 12 month contract and the tenant can terminate the contract when he want's providing he, pays the difference! What you need is a contract that is fair, not all in there favour.
So discuss with them, and come to a happy medium, although commonsense should also prevail over fixed items in the home, are always the landlords responsibility. Tell him if you are held responible for air cons, then you want all new air cons installed, why should you pay for previous tenants usage!
Don't forget to photograph any previous damage, scratches, holes, or marks in bathrooms and kitchen. with regards cleaning! Also check fans are cleaned and light fittings, because they will bill you for anything, its easy money for them, and they intend to keep some of the deposit.
I feel the need to correct your info. In Singapore, the usual market standard:
1. Tenant pays the stamp fee.
2. Tenant maintains and service the air-con units every 3 months and the Landlord will pay for any repair or replacement of parts.
3. Notice period for Diplomatic clause is 2 months.
4. In the event Tenant exercise the Diplomatic clause and break the lease, Tenant will pro-rata re-imburse the commission the Landlord had paid the agent.
All this clause is in the standard Tenancy Agreement provided by the IEA (Institute of Estate Agent).
Hope the above clarifies doubts about the standard lease agreement.
All very nice if this a practical doable deal.ksl wrote:I gave my honest opinion, that i would consider putting it in the bin! Until it showed some fairness towards the tenant. I think the usual MARKET STANDARD is a little different in these unusual MARKET TRENDS, where money doesn't grow on trees! Maybe the IEA should get together and create a more tenant friendly contract, like going 50/50 on the fees for example!Pal wrote:ksl,ksl wrote: I would consider putting that contract in the bin.
Stamp duty I would have thought was the responsibility of the Landlord, along with the servicing and maintenance of the air conditioning, of which are not your concern.
For one thing you have no idea of the condition of these units, for another thing if they are new, they should be under warranty, last but not least evironmental health safety of fixed items are the Landlords problem, including gas, water, electricity and with air cons the law is very strict, because of the viruses and bacteria these machines will make if not serviced correctly.
1 month is the norm on a 12 month contract and the tenant can terminate the contract when he want's providing he, pays the difference! What you need is a contract that is fair, not all in there favour.
So discuss with them, and come to a happy medium, although commonsense should also prevail over fixed items in the home, are always the landlords responsibility. Tell him if you are held responible for air cons, then you want all new air cons installed, why should you pay for previous tenants usage!
Don't forget to photograph any previous damage, scratches, holes, or marks in bathrooms and kitchen. with regards cleaning! Also check fans are cleaned and light fittings, because they will bill you for anything, its easy money for them, and they intend to keep some of the deposit.
I feel the need to correct your info. In Singapore, the usual market standard:
1. Tenant pays the stamp fee.
2. Tenant maintains and service the air-con units every 3 months and the Landlord will pay for any repair or replacement of parts.
3. Notice period for Diplomatic clause is 2 months.
4. In the event Tenant exercise the Diplomatic clause and break the lease, Tenant will pro-rata re-imburse the commission the Landlord had paid the agent.
All this clause is in the standard Tenancy Agreement provided by the IEA (Institute of Estate Agent).
Hope the above clarifies doubts about the standard lease agreement.
Its very easy to say this is the standard tenancy agreement provided by IEA, they are agents and represent Landlords and not tenants.
Thats also why there should be a tenants charter lets not forget, the issues at hand here! why not 50/50 for example. Where is the proof the air cons have been regular serviced since new, do you present a stamped log of maintenance?
Tenants may have very few rights in Singapore if any, but they do have a choice until they find the right landlord, and agent that is fair! If it was me, i would put the contract in the bin! and negotiate something a little more favourable. With rents rising like they are, the tenants have to look after eachother right, and i would be the first one to sign up for tenants rights!
It looks like expatriate tenants are getting a little cheesed off, with the policy of being squeezed for every $ if you ask me, and i cannot say, i don't blame them!
The choice is yours my friend, your the one that must pay the rental, but one must also protect the locals too, don't forget, its not just about expatriates, how many of the locals do you think get forced out of their own properties because of debt, and are forced to rent, under these standard contracts?PhantomX wrote:All very nice if this a practical doable deal.ksl wrote:I gave my honest opinion, that i would consider putting it in the bin! Until it showed some fairness towards the tenant. I think the usual MARKET STANDARD is a little different in these unusual MARKET TRENDS, where money doesn't grow on trees! Maybe the IEA should get together and create a more tenant friendly contract, like going 50/50 on the fees for example!Pal wrote: ksl,
I feel the need to correct your info. In Singapore, the usual market standard:
1. Tenant pays the stamp fee.
2. Tenant maintains and service the air-con units every 3 months and the Landlord will pay for any repair or replacement of parts.
3. Notice period for Diplomatic clause is 2 months.
4. In the event Tenant exercise the Diplomatic clause and break the lease, Tenant will pro-rata re-imburse the commission the Landlord had paid the agent.
All this clause is in the standard Tenancy Agreement provided by the IEA (Institute of Estate Agent).
Hope the above clarifies doubts about the standard lease agreement.
Its very easy to say this is the standard tenancy agreement provided by IEA, they are agents and represent Landlords and not tenants.
Thats also why there should be a tenants charter lets not forget, the issues at hand here! why not 50/50 for example. Where is the proof the air cons have been regular serviced since new, do you present a stamped log of maintenance?
Tenants may have very few rights in Singapore if any, but they do have a choice until they find the right landlord, and agent that is fair! If it was me, i would put the contract in the bin! and negotiate something a little more favourable. With rents rising like they are, the tenants have to look after eachother right, and i would be the first one to sign up for tenants rights!
It looks like expatriate tenants are getting a little cheesed off, with the policy of being squeezed for every $ if you ask me, and i cannot say, i don't blame them!
So what do you propose?
A Tenants Bill of Rights?
Get it ratified in 5 years and hopefully current tenants make do in shanty shacks in rain forests all over the island?
There are several places were legal advice is free, in the community centres, not sure which one it was, i visited, may have been bishan.Maya_Wang wrote:I am renting a condo in the west. The rooms are quite poorly renovated and some of the window panel are loosely attached to the frame.
On last saturday morning, it was raining heavily with strong wind. One of the window in the living room was open and rain water came in so I wanted to go and close the window. When I was approaching the window, the window panel slammed against the frame badly due to the strong wind. the glass was broken and the fragments fell on my face and body. My face was badly lacerated and my neck and arms are also injured.
I was sent to NUH and had surgery there. right now, I am already discharged from the hospital. I need to visit the docotor a few times more to remove the stitches and some follow-up treatment. The cut on my face is very big and the doctor said there will definitely some scar. I am a 25-year-old girl who just finished my undergraduate course and have no savings. The hospital fees are quite heavy for me. Could I ask the landlord to cover my hospital fees and possibly some compensation for the future treatment of the scar?
ksl wrote:There are several places were legal advice is free, in the community centres, not sure which one it was, i visited, may have been bishan.Maya_Wang wrote:I am renting a condo in the west. The rooms are quite poorly renovated and some of the window panel are loosely attached to the frame.
On last saturday morning, it was raining heavily with strong wind. One of the window in the living room was open and rain water came in so I wanted to go and close the window. When I was approaching the window, the window panel slammed against the frame badly due to the strong wind. the glass was broken and the fragments fell on my face and body. My face was badly lacerated and my neck and arms are also injured.
I was sent to NUH and had surgery there. right now, I am already discharged from the hospital. I need to visit the docotor a few times more to remove the stitches and some follow-up treatment. The cut on my face is very big and the doctor said there will definitely some scar. I am a 25-year-old girl who just finished my undergraduate course and have no savings. The hospital fees are quite heavy for me. Could I ask the landlord to cover my hospital fees and possibly some compensation for the future treatment of the scar?
There have been strict rules or laws implemented about lose window frames, falling out, because of the rivets or fixings rusting, your landlord, may or maynot be liable, for injury, you need to look into it further. but take photo's of the window frames and the damage, because once the landlord has cleaned up the evidence, your claim will be more difficult to prove.
In most civilised countries, all buildings have to have building insurance, I don't know about Singapore, the building insurance I had on my own property, covered windows and glass breakage, which was a relief, living in the area where i was.
Also have photo's taken of your injuries! If your case is strong, some kind lawyer may do it on a no win no fee basis, although he would be 99.9% sure he would win.
Any community centre will inform you of the free legal advice meetings! Good Luck!
If you're living in the west, you need to google for the "community development council" in your area. Some of them run 'legal clinics' which offer some form of free legal advice. If you're an expat however, that might not be an option (they may exclude you, saying it's only for citizens) but do check with them first.ksl wrote: There are several places were legal advice is free, in the community centres, not sure which one it was, i visited, may have been bishan.
There have been strict rules or laws implemented about lose window frames, falling out, because of the rivets or fixings rusting, your landlord, may or maynot be liable, for injury, you need to look into it further. but take photo's of the window frames and the damage, because once the landlord has cleaned up the evidence, your claim will be more difficult to prove.
In most civilised countries, all buildings have to have building insurance, I don't know about Singapore, the building insurance I had on my own property, covered windows and glass breakage, which was a relief, living in the area where i was.
Also have photo's taken of your injuries! If your case is strong, some kind lawyer may do it on a no win no fee basis, although he would be 99.9% sure he would win.
Any community centre will inform you of the free legal advice meetings! Good Luck!
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