if reduction is absolutely necessary, then u need much more complex surgery. check out dr kao in the taiwan threadLolAlexLol wrote:Hi everyone.
I am very very interested in getting my nose done, it is very wide big swollen or and has little or thin bridge which is so so so ugly and results in me having total no confidence and worries every time when people look in eyes to me..
If I would like to have my nose job done, preferably a SHARP, thin and high nose bridge like those of Caucasians ones, who should I seek to?
Dr Nara or Putt? Cause it seems like putt is not a certified one if I remembered a few pages before someone had posted regarding it..
I know that both dr nara and putt does not provide reduction so is it still possible to attain a sharp thin small nose considering I have a very wide and big swollen nose?
TIA~
u need parental consent if you are below 21wannabeplasticteen wrote:Hello everyone!
I'm a girl 17 this year and I'm extremely keen on getting on nose done for a long time. I've been saving up for this for a while now and I've about $1.5k in savings and I'm prepared to use it to fly to Hat Yai and the surgery.
I told my parents about wanting to get my nose corrected but they looked at me as though I was crazy. It's just something they won't understand. So therefore, I am ready to go over there by myself to get a nose job.
I am planning to get it done this September/October, and I would really appreciate any help I can get from fellow forumers. I would like to know what airlines you can recommend (the cheapest prefably), where to purchase the domestic flights to transfer to Hat Yai and if 1.5k SGD is actually enough to cover my expenses there.
I know 17's really young, but I can't stand to waste my time living with my fat nose when I'm physically and financially able to get it fixed myself.
I REALLY APPRECIATE ANY HELP GIVEN. THANK YOU.
I've booked 5 Aug when is urs?kaitin wrote:anyone going to dr nara in aug?
hi all, im back now in the uk...sawadika77 wrote:hi thanks for the private emails Pinkcherry and Krispy, unfortunately i cannot private email you back with your questions as i havent yet qualified to do that i.e according to singapore forum.sawadika77 wrote:hi sorry for the late reply, yeah. i did my boobs with nara and putisak nose. I had first approached putisak about my boobs which he said he could not do, he was advicing i do a lift while i wanted an implant. ( all this was via email before seeing me. I think my boobs scared him lolkrispy wrote: omg am sorry it didn't work out for u. am comin from abroad, planning to stay in thailand for a month or 2. going in may 2010 for tummy tuck and BA. do u know if dr nara does a good job on tt & ba? is the price on his website exactly what it is? any hidden cost? did u have to buy your own compression garment. how much is it in hat yai? is the pain killers free? how much does it cost to stay extra night in hospital? what about dr puttisak? who would u recommended sry for so much questions sawadika77 u seem experience and i appreciate you sharing your experience. it will be my first time in thailand, and doing surgery, i dont hear people talk much about tummy tuck on here. i pray i dont run into any bad luck... when u had ur breast done how did u decide what is best for u? i have 2 kids, saggy breast and stretch marks all over my stomach. i heard if done thru the armpits it takes longer to heal and more painful. am scared of scars. under or over breast muscle which do u prefer? in 10 years when i have to redo it wont it be harder if under the muscle? do u know if i get tummy tuck can i get lipo in my stomach? is that extra? becuz some doctors include lipo with the price. i email dr nara no response with these questions. i plan on calling him when i get there should i call him now? when u did ur breast was it perfect? not lopsided or one bigger than the other? do u know of a good laser place for stretch marks? thank u if u or anybody on here could help. am scared and excited at the same time.. not really sure how i should feel. i research for ova 5 years and recently tumble on this website, everybody on here is real and has real experience, am glad i found this site. the more i hear of dr nara the more i want to pick up that phone and call. still undecided on which doctor in hat yai.
my scars i.e on the nipple where implants were put and under neath where implants were removed have both faded..u can hardly see. One thing ( thank God) about my skin is it heals fast. i also ( on the advice of my mum) took vitamin c and zinc.. dont know if its a myth or true but apparently zinc is good for healing scars
Both doctors are good, though i have a soft spot for puttisak, he was very kind to me..by the way if you want to call me you can.. just send me a private email n i will email u my number... i am also going back at the end of april to do my boobs again..with another doctor in hatyai, dr nara refused to do them the second time.. ( i am praying this time it goes well.)
If you wish to see nara, you must book way in advance, about three months in advance as he is so much in demand.
As for this webisite...lol i also came accross it by accident. I was desparetly lookinf for message blogs about thai ps then found it and it from this very website that i learnt about dr nara and puttisak and went for me. Prior to that had appointment with yanhee, who i ditched. lol
please here is my private email which if you email me i will reply in more details. [email protected]. I will answer all your questions, dont worry about bothering me, i understand. Before i left for thailand i felt just the same.
Dr puts email is ([email protected]). His mobile number is 00 66 89 46 71 055. My nose is fine no problem at all, i admit i was kinda worried at first cause i have sinuses and suffer with hayfever in the spirng/early summer, but i have had no problem at all.
BA with nara was 55,000 thb. This includes everything. the only extra pay i remember was 100 baht for blood test H.I.V. I went to the lab by myself, just jumped on a tuk tuk. After doing the test i went back to my hotel. I then waited for about 5pm where i took a tuk tuk to hospital. In the hospital i checked myself in and the nurse took me to room. I had a wash with soap lol, no shower cream. I remember the nurse telling me to be careful not to wash of the markings on my boobs that dr had drawn.
After that i sat on the bed and watched A THAI SOAP!! which i was trying to understand lol. Anyway most of the time i was looking at the girls noses and saying mmmm.. i want my nose to be like that lol . later i was wheeled to the theatre. was scarey. I rember praying " oh Lord please let me not die doing plastic surgery, what will my church member say lol". There i met nara and the anastetic. He spoke to me about the anastetic and how it will make me sleep. I remember asking him " are u sure i wont feel anything?" i was so nervous thought i might wake up in the middle of the surgery and feel the cutting lol ( you know all the horror storiies you hear lol)
Eventually the anastetic dr gave me the injection. i started to feel drowsy. I prayed on more time giving up my spirit to the Lord.
Next thing i woke up was in the room in sooo much pain. oh my gosh. its like somoene put heavy stones on your chest. I wanted to go to the toilet but i could not get up. The lovely nurse assistant brought me a bed pan. and i used it. I remember thinking what have i done to myself? what have i put myself through? Forget child birth this is the real pain.
anyway as u can see i always get carried away with my ps experience lol.
as for nose, that was a walk in the park. When i got to puttisak clinic, got antibiotic injection on my bum...lol, those nurses in thailand were always shocked at my bum/booty. i remember doctor nara advicing me to loose weight when he saw my bum lololol. the nurses were even gigling. thhis is when i was doing the lipo on my love handles, you have to lie on your belly and ur bum is exposed , talk of humiliation. this was the first thing i did i.e the love handles and nara said i should start with love handles because i have to lie on my belly, and i cannot do this after having BA. So did love handles on sunday n BA on the monday.
Back to rhino...ok, so after getting injection on bum, i went to the mini theatre room, where i washed my face with antibiotic soap. Then a young lady very fluent in english, came and gave me the sedation. i slept and woke up with implant, i felt nothing...nothing nothing nothing. It was the next day when i got up that my eyes and area around nose was swollen. it was embarasing, cause when i went for breaksfast all the geusts were staring at me. It was obvious i was a foreigner on a ps mission...lol.
within two days sweeling around the eyes, had completely gone. nose a litle swolen but not painful. my nose is doing great.
okay enuf said, please feel free to email me . TC
Hey there Sawadee77!!sawadika77 wrote:hi all, im back now in the uk...sawadika77 wrote:hi thanks for the private emails Pinkcherry and Krispy, unfortunately i cannot private email you back with your questions as i havent yet qualified to do that i.e according to singapore forum.sawadika77 wrote: hi sorry for the late reply, yeah. i did my boobs with nara and putisak nose. I had first approached putisak about my boobs which he said he could not do, he was advicing i do a lift while i wanted an implant. ( all this was via email before seeing me. I think my boobs scared him lol
my scars i.e on the nipple where implants were put and under neath where implants were removed have both faded..u can hardly see. One thing ( thank God) about my skin is it heals fast. i also ( on the advice of my mum) took vitamin c and zinc.. dont know if its a myth or true but apparently zinc is good for healing scars
Both doctors are good, though i have a soft spot for puttisak, he was very kind to me..by the way if you want to call me you can.. just send me a private email n i will email u my number... i am also going back at the end of april to do my boobs again..with another doctor in hatyai, dr nara refused to do them the second time.. ( i am praying this time it goes well.)
If you wish to see nara, you must book way in advance, about three months in advance as he is so much in demand.
As for this webisite...lol i also came accross it by accident. I was desparetly lookinf for message blogs about thai ps then found it and it from this very website that i learnt about dr nara and puttisak and went for me. Prior to that had appointment with yanhee, who i ditched. lol
please here is my private email which if you email me i will reply in more details. [email protected]. I will answer all your questions, dont worry about bothering me, i understand. Before i left for thailand i felt just the same.
Dr puts email is ([email protected]). His mobile number is 00 66 89 46 71 055. My nose is fine no problem at all, i admit i was kinda worried at first cause i have sinuses and suffer with hayfever in the spirng/early summer, but i have had no problem at all.
BA with nara was 55,000 thb. This includes everything. the only extra pay i remember was 100 baht for blood test H.I.V. I went to the lab by myself, just jumped on a tuk tuk. After doing the test i went back to my hotel. I then waited for about 5pm where i took a tuk tuk to hospital. In the hospital i checked myself in and the nurse took me to room. I had a wash with soap lol, no shower cream. I remember the nurse telling me to be careful not to wash of the markings on my boobs that dr had drawn.
After that i sat on the bed and watched A THAI SOAP!! which i was trying to understand lol. Anyway most of the time i was looking at the girls noses and saying mmmm.. i want my nose to be like that lol . later i was wheeled to the theatre. was scarey. I rember praying " oh Lord please let me not die doing plastic surgery, what will my church member say lol". There i met nara and the anastetic. He spoke to me about the anastetic and how it will make me sleep. I remember asking him " are u sure i wont feel anything?" i was so nervous thought i might wake up in the middle of the surgery and feel the cutting lol ( you know all the horror storiies you hear lol)
Eventually the anastetic dr gave me the injection. i started to feel drowsy. I prayed on more time giving up my spirit to the Lord.
Next thing i woke up was in the room in sooo much pain. oh my gosh. its like somoene put heavy stones on your chest. I wanted to go to the toilet but i could not get up. The lovely nurse assistant brought me a bed pan. and i used it. I remember thinking what have i done to myself? what have i put myself through? Forget child birth this is the real pain.
anyway as u can see i always get carried away with my ps experience lol.
as for nose, that was a walk in the park. When i got to puttisak clinic, got antibiotic injection on my bum...lol, those nurses in thailand were always shocked at my bum/booty. i remember doctor nara advicing me to loose weight when he saw my bum lololol. the nurses were even gigling. thhis is when i was doing the lipo on my love handles, you have to lie on your belly and ur bum is exposed , talk of humiliation. this was the first thing i did i.e the love handles and nara said i should start with love handles because i have to lie on my belly, and i cannot do this after having BA. So did love handles on sunday n BA on the monday.
Back to rhino...ok, so after getting injection on bum, i went to the mini theatre room, where i washed my face with antibiotic soap. Then a young lady very fluent in english, came and gave me the sedation. i slept and woke up with implant, i felt nothing...nothing nothing nothing. It was the next day when i got up that my eyes and area around nose was swollen. it was embarasing, cause when i went for breaksfast all the geusts were staring at me. It was obvious i was a foreigner on a ps mission...lol.
within two days sweeling around the eyes, had completely gone. nose a litle swolen but not painful. my nose is doing great.
okay enuf said, please feel free to email me . TC
this is how it went. i went to see doctor puttisak for my eyes which went okay. the next evening i had an appointment with him but before that hade an appointment with dr sompot who was gonna do my boobs ( second try, nara did first time)
when i got to him he told me that he will put the implant infornt of the musle for more potrusion etc and we booked an appointment for the next day, he gave me hospital addres with the letter to take for xray etc...
after leavn his clinic went to puttisak to remove plaster frm my eyes n clean wound. while chattin i mentioned to him that i had seen dr sombot n he would put implant infront of muscle. dr putt said its not good idea cause i have chance of gettn capsular contracture. During our conversation i asked putt would he like to do it for me? he agreed. before he freaked out on my boobs, geuss the pix over exergarated the size n sagginess. so we booked for the next day. luckily i had not paid doctor sombot, im glad i did not carry money to go to his clinic. Actually i was supposed to pay him dat morin of operation @ hosp
anyway i had gut feelin to go wif puttisak. so next day went to his clinic in morn n paid. he adviced i use saline instead of silicon ...reason some silicon candidates complain of headache n nausea... so...
after payin him a van from hospital came n picked me, unlike nara who i took tuk tuk...by the way the price was even cheaper wif puttisak
when i got to hospital, it was there that i discovered that nara had actually taken me to a goverment hospital. the first time when i was in thailand i did not realise this because i thought that was the norm( it being a 3rd world country) was the standard. however dr puttisak who took me to sinkarin and i realised the contrast. i felt cheated, and wonder is it only me who was taken to govt hospital??
the hospital puttisak took me to is a 5 star.. i felt special. also i did not vomit as he gave me anti vomit. so unlike my first time with nara i did not vomit the antibiotic. the pain was even 100 times less, i suspect the quality of painkiller is also better with puttisak. whenever i rang him he was always there. to be honest n fair, nara was never there after surgery. when i was sick in hotel n ring him his staff would answer n tellme "doctor vellly busy" Dont get me wrong the staff r nice but when u in pain u wna talk to dr not staff..
as a patient with both i advice ppl to go with puttisak he is more proffesional and not greedy. that is my opinion and experience and i am being as honest as possible.
i also realised with nara i only did hiv test, while with puttisak, i did blood test, blood pressure, blood clot level etc and x ray,all in the package...puttisak is very proffesional and caring... i am now healed and having just a tiny sorenesss. my boobs are a bit high profile but dr putt showd me how to massage them and said they will drop with time.
my hospital was very posh n meals very nice..the hospital van also dropped me home..with nara i honestly feel i did not get my moneys worth..
the night before breast surgery i was on 2nd floor lee garden plaza internet cafe, n got email from one singapore lady who got it from forum...she said she was in hatyai n had gone to dr puttisak and saw my name on the table calendar lol..i emailed her back n told her im still in hatyai, she came to the internet cafe n we chatted for and hour plus... she was lovely
i did breast augmentationrhinoceros wrote:Hey there Sawadee77!!sawadika77 wrote:hi all, im back now in the uk...sawadika77 wrote: hi thanks for the private emails Pinkcherry and Krispy, unfortunately i cannot private email you back with your questions as i havent yet qualified to do that i.e according to singapore forum.
please here is my private email which if you email me i will reply in more details. [email protected]. I will answer all your questions, dont worry about bothering me, i understand. Before i left for thailand i felt just the same.
Dr puts email is ([email protected]). His mobile number is 00 66 89 46 71 055. My nose is fine no problem at all, i admit i was kinda worried at first cause i have sinuses and suffer with hayfever in the spirng/early summer, but i have had no problem at all.
BA with nara was 55,000 thb. This includes everything. the only extra pay i remember was 100 baht for blood test H.I.V. I went to the lab by myself, just jumped on a tuk tuk. After doing the test i went back to my hotel. I then waited for about 5pm where i took a tuk tuk to hospital. In the hospital i checked myself in and the nurse took me to room. I had a wash with soap lol, no shower cream. I remember the nurse telling me to be careful not to wash of the markings on my boobs that dr had drawn.
After that i sat on the bed and watched A THAI SOAP!! which i was trying to understand lol. Anyway most of the time i was looking at the girls noses and saying mmmm.. i want my nose to be like that lol . later i was wheeled to the theatre. was scarey. I rember praying " oh Lord please let me not die doing plastic surgery, what will my church member say lol". There i met nara and the anastetic. He spoke to me about the anastetic and how it will make me sleep. I remember asking him " are u sure i wont feel anything?" i was so nervous thought i might wake up in the middle of the surgery and feel the cutting lol ( you know all the horror storiies you hear lol)
Eventually the anastetic dr gave me the injection. i started to feel drowsy. I prayed on more time giving up my spirit to the Lord.
Next thing i woke up was in the room in sooo much pain. oh my gosh. its like somoene put heavy stones on your chest. I wanted to go to the toilet but i could not get up. The lovely nurse assistant brought me a bed pan. and i used it. I remember thinking what have i done to myself? what have i put myself through? Forget child birth this is the real pain.
anyway as u can see i always get carried away with my ps experience lol.
as for nose, that was a walk in the park. When i got to puttisak clinic, got antibiotic injection on my bum...lol, those nurses in thailand were always shocked at my bum/booty. i remember doctor nara advicing me to loose weight when he saw my bum lololol. the nurses were even gigling. thhis is when i was doing the lipo on my love handles, you have to lie on your belly and ur bum is exposed , talk of humiliation. this was the first thing i did i.e the love handles and nara said i should start with love handles because i have to lie on my belly, and i cannot do this after having BA. So did love handles on sunday n BA on the monday.
Back to rhino...ok, so after getting injection on bum, i went to the mini theatre room, where i washed my face with antibiotic soap. Then a young lady very fluent in english, came and gave me the sedation. i slept and woke up with implant, i felt nothing...nothing nothing nothing. It was the next day when i got up that my eyes and area around nose was swollen. it was embarasing, cause when i went for breaksfast all the geusts were staring at me. It was obvious i was a foreigner on a ps mission...lol.
within two days sweeling around the eyes, had completely gone. nose a litle swolen but not painful. my nose is doing great.
okay enuf said, please feel free to email me . TC
this is how it went. i went to see doctor puttisak for my eyes which went okay. the next evening i had an appointment with him but before that hade an appointment with dr sompot who was gonna do my boobs ( second try, nara did first time)
when i got to him he told me that he will put the implant infornt of the musle for more potrusion etc and we booked an appointment for the next day, he gave me hospital addres with the letter to take for xray etc...
after leavn his clinic went to puttisak to remove plaster frm my eyes n clean wound. while chattin i mentioned to him that i had seen dr sombot n he would put implant infront of muscle. dr putt said its not good idea cause i have chance of gettn capsular contracture. During our conversation i asked putt would he like to do it for me? he agreed. before he freaked out on my boobs, geuss the pix over exergarated the size n sagginess. so we booked for the next day. luckily i had not paid doctor sombot, im glad i did not carry money to go to his clinic. Actually i was supposed to pay him dat morin of operation @ hosp
anyway i had gut feelin to go wif puttisak. so next day went to his clinic in morn n paid. he adviced i use saline instead of silicon ...reason some silicon candidates complain of headache n nausea... so...
after payin him a van from hospital came n picked me, unlike nara who i took tuk tuk...by the way the price was even cheaper wif puttisak
when i got to hospital, it was there that i discovered that nara had actually taken me to a goverment hospital. the first time when i was in thailand i did not realise this because i thought that was the norm( it being a 3rd world country) was the standard. however dr puttisak who took me to sinkarin and i realised the contrast. i felt cheated, and wonder is it only me who was taken to govt hospital??
the hospital puttisak took me to is a 5 star.. i felt special. also i did not vomit as he gave me anti vomit. so unlike my first time with nara i did not vomit the antibiotic. the pain was even 100 times less, i suspect the quality of painkiller is also better with puttisak. whenever i rang him he was always there. to be honest n fair, nara was never there after surgery. when i was sick in hotel n ring him his staff would answer n tellme "doctor vellly busy" Dont get me wrong the staff r nice but when u in pain u wna talk to dr not staff..
as a patient with both i advice ppl to go with puttisak he is more proffesional and not greedy. that is my opinion and experience and i am being as honest as possible.
i also realised with nara i only did hiv test, while with puttisak, i did blood test, blood pressure, blood clot level etc and x ray,all in the package...puttisak is very proffesional and caring... i am now healed and having just a tiny sorenesss. my boobs are a bit high profile but dr putt showd me how to massage them and said they will drop with time.
my hospital was very posh n meals very nice..the hospital van also dropped me home..with nara i honestly feel i did not get my moneys worth..
the night before breast surgery i was on 2nd floor lee garden plaza internet cafe, n got email from one singapore lady who got it from forum...she said she was in hatyai n had gone to dr puttisak and saw my name on the table calendar lol..i emailed her back n told her im still in hatyai, she came to the internet cafe n we chatted for and hour plus... she was lovely
Glad that your surgeries turned out good n better than you've expected!
Yeah I agree that money put on Dr Putt is really worth it.. Pay less with tip top service, implants r recognised n of top quality, wonderfully clean hospital with friendlly nurses n blah blah blah blah.....
Anyway just curious what procedures did he carry out for ur boobs? Lifting? Amount of saline he used?
Really sorry din know it is a rude remark..sawadika77 wrote:i did breast augmentationrhinoceros wrote:Hey there Sawadee77!!sawadika77 wrote: hi all, im back now in the uk...
this is how it went. i went to see doctor puttisak for my eyes which went okay. the next evening i had an appointment with him but before that hade an appointment with dr sompot who was gonna do my boobs ( second try, nara did first time)
when i got to him he told me that he will put the implant infornt of the musle for more potrusion etc and we booked an appointment for the next day, he gave me hospital addres with the letter to take for xray etc...
after leavn his clinic went to puttisak to remove plaster frm my eyes n clean wound. while chattin i mentioned to him that i had seen dr sombot n he would put implant infront of muscle. dr putt said its not good idea cause i have chance of gettn capsular contracture. During our conversation i asked putt would he like to do it for me? he agreed. before he freaked out on my boobs, geuss the pix over exergarated the size n sagginess. so we booked for the next day. luckily i had not paid doctor sombot, im glad i did not carry money to go to his clinic. Actually i was supposed to pay him dat morin of operation @ hosp
anyway i had gut feelin to go wif puttisak. so next day went to his clinic in morn n paid. he adviced i use saline instead of silicon ...reason some silicon candidates complain of headache n nausea... so...
after payin him a van from hospital came n picked me, unlike nara who i took tuk tuk...by the way the price was even cheaper wif puttisak
when i got to hospital, it was there that i discovered that nara had actually taken me to a goverment hospital. the first time when i was in thailand i did not realise this because i thought that was the norm( it being a 3rd world country) was the standard. however dr puttisak who took me to sinkarin and i realised the contrast. i felt cheated, and wonder is it only me who was taken to govt hospital??
the hospital puttisak took me to is a 5 star.. i felt special. also i did not vomit as he gave me anti vomit. so unlike my first time with nara i did not vomit the antibiotic. the pain was even 100 times less, i suspect the quality of painkiller is also better with puttisak. whenever i rang him he was always there. to be honest n fair, nara was never there after surgery. when i was sick in hotel n ring him his staff would answer n tellme "doctor vellly busy" Dont get me wrong the staff r nice but when u in pain u wna talk to dr not staff..
as a patient with both i advice ppl to go with puttisak he is more proffesional and not greedy. that is my opinion and experience and i am being as honest as possible.
i also realised with nara i only did hiv test, while with puttisak, i did blood test, blood pressure, blood clot level etc and x ray,all in the package...puttisak is very proffesional and caring... i am now healed and having just a tiny sorenesss. my boobs are a bit high profile but dr putt showd me how to massage them and said they will drop with time.
my hospital was very posh n meals very nice..the hospital van also dropped me home..with nara i honestly feel i did not get my moneys worth..
the night before breast surgery i was on 2nd floor lee garden plaza internet cafe, n got email from one singapore lady who got it from forum...she said she was in hatyai n had gone to dr puttisak and saw my name on the table calendar lol..i emailed her back n told her im still in hatyai, she came to the internet cafe n we chatted for and hour plus... she was lovely
Glad that your surgeries turned out good n better than you've expected!
Yeah I agree that money put on Dr Putt is really worth it.. Pay less with tip top service, implants r recognised n of top quality, wonderfully clean hospital with friendlly nurses n blah blah blah blah.....
Anyway just curious what procedures did he carry out for ur boobs? Lifting? Amount of saline he used?
i did it under the breast the scar where nara used to remove the implant... so dr puttisak used same scar.
i used 325 n he added i think 25 got the card at home , i know its mentor usa, it was breast augmentation.
ps blah blah blah is quite rude u know, anyway never mind
its cool. hope my mails have helped you..tkiarhinoceros wrote:Really sorry din know it is a rude remark..sawadika77 wrote:i did breast augmentationrhinoceros wrote: Hey there Sawadee77!!
Glad that your surgeries turned out good n better than you've expected!
Yeah I agree that money put on Dr Putt is really worth it.. Pay less with tip top service, implants r recognised n of top quality, wonderfully clean hospital with friendlly nurses n blah blah blah blah.....
Anyway just curious what procedures did he carry out for ur boobs? Lifting? Amount of saline he used?
i did it under the breast the scar where nara used to remove the implant... so dr puttisak used same scar.
i used 325 n he added i think 25 got the card at home , i know its mentor usa, it was breast augmentation.
ps blah blah blah is quite rude u know, anyway never mind
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