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Postby missuglynose » Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:02 am

Hi all, I've been lurking around in the plastic surgery threads for some time now and finally decided to come out of hiding :)

Some background about myself: I have hidden double eyelids with puffy upper lids, a big round fleshy nose, a weak chin, and one side of my face is larger than the other (not sure yet whether it's due to buccal fat or jaw muscle). I'm considering getting
1. double eyelid (incision method) + considering epi
2. autologous rhinoplasty (I've got a pretty high bridge to begin with)
3. tiplasty + alarplasty
4. chin implant
5. jaw botox (crossing my fingers that my assymetrical face is caused by muscle and not fat. No buccal fat removal for me cos my family has a history of sunken cheeks with age :P)

Not really comfortable showing my entire face here, so let me upload some cropped/mosaic-ed pictures of mine...
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For me, the most pressing issue would be my nose. I really HATE it! Judging from the numerous before/after pics that others have posted, I think there is potential to make my nose look much better - especially since I have an above average bridge to begin with. I'm *guessing* that my case wouldn't be too complicated?

Which brings me to my dilemma - Taiwan or Bangkok? I initially wanted to visit Dr. Hsu for my rhinoplasty and another surgeon (undecided) for double eyelid + epi + chin), BUT my company is moving me to Bangkok, so obviously it would be super convenient for me to do it there right? Plus I'd have all the time in the world for recovery, and be close to my surgeon should any complications arise. I had my sights set on Dr Pat, until I recently read the less than glowing reviews about him :(

I'm just wondering if the many experienced forumers here would be able to suggest whether a Taiwanese or Thai surgeon would be better equipped to handle my surgery? I'm willing to pay up to 65000 baht for a complete nose job (autologous implant only, otherwise will just settle for tip+alar). As for the rest - eyes and chin, willing to pay industry average in whichever country. TIA!

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Postby pootie » Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:18 am

sasa05_ wrote:
pootie wrote:I'm of average size. i stand at 163cm and weigh abt 49kg to 50kg. Lipo wont make u weigh very much lesser but u will look much lighter than u actually are when u stand on the scale

u will get very bad bruising but the bruises will go away completely in a month.

I dun think u will get saggy skin cos our skin are generally elastic (unless u are old so u lose the elasticity), wearing the garments give u support so when u walk u dun feel the bruises tat much. i wear leggings underneath my pants for support. :) if you are doing only lipo, u can go to work almost immediately. you;ll walk normal. :)

the main ingredient in sinnech is arnica montana, that is supposed to help with the recovery of bruising. pple take pineapple juice cos of bromelain tat is found in the juices which helps to reduce swelling. you may not want to take too much of pineapple juice cos it contains calories and can make u grow fat. just let it swell and the swelling will go off on its own anyways.

incision is abt one cm, if you are fair then the scar is obvious. u need to go to GP to remove the stitches after a week or so, u need to check with nara. the scar is the cut tat he needed to insert the canula, but there is no scarring from the stitches.

outter thighs 1 incision, inner thighs 1 incision, tummy 2 incisions (left and right frontal near hip bones). nara doesnt do calves/ knees.. to reduce calves, u need to do botox, however that means u will have weaker legs in time to come cos botox freezes the muscles. i wouldnt do tat so i dun think u shd even consider tat.. i hear some peeps go to taiwan to cut a nerve in the calves/legs so it shrinks teh calves muscles and yet doesnt affect the 'strength' in the legs..

hths..

Thks again Pootie!

would oso like to noe, after lipo...
does the incision oozes alot of blood or fluid?
we need to hv a gauze for it?
Will it be messy?

Actually my arms are ardy sagging (the area at armpits, they call it butterfly arms?) :(
i cant wear any sleeveless at all so i'm tinking if the skin really sag (which i'm praying hard it doesnt)..
i'll just hv to continue dressing the same like now (no spaghetti tops, tubes etc)..
Lipo can take away some inches, at least i can fit my arms into shirts..
(Eg: a G2000 shirt i tried... body fits nicely but i cant button at the sleeves! :cry: )

actually i read somewhr ppl wif stretchmarks shldnt do lipo cos the skin definitely will sag? Wat's yr view on tis?
I do hv stretchmarks...

Any other members with their personal opinions or experience to share regarding the stretchmarks issue??


the docs will squeeze out the excess liquid from the incision points. you may stil continue to leak after that which always happened to me.. you will be gauzed at the incision points and yes, you'll be given gauzes too to change ur own dressing.. u have to buy the waterproof film dressing (from pharmacy in spore or hatyai) so u can shower after tat... actually wat i did was when i reached the hotel, i quickly changed my dressing to the waterproof one and showered quickly, then after i showered,replaced with the gauze.. else cant shower cos the incision points cannot touch water else can risk infection..

when i get up in the morning i would have stopped leaking.. so change to the waterproof film dressing again and u dun need to remove/change it till u see the doc after 1 week to remove the stitches..

most chubby girls have butterfly arms, so u're not the only one.. what u can do is hit the gym and do triceps exercises to tone tat part up.. in fact you shd do regular exercises after that to tone up and maintain ur new figure.. not just the arms..

anyways, if you have existing stretch marks already, they will just get more obvious... buy creams to lighten stretch marks, u cant get rid of it unless u do laser i think.. some pple are just more prone to stretch marks, i have some on my hips, some girls have them at the arms, some on the bosom area... popping collagen pills probably helps to prepare ur skin to stretch/destretch.. :)

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Postby aadvark » Thu, 13 Aug 2009 6:46 pm

missuglynose wrote:Hi all, I've been lurking around in the plastic surgery threads for some time now and finally decided to come out of hiding :)

Some background about myself: I have hidden double eyelids with puffy upper lids, a big round fleshy nose, a weak chin, and one side of my face is larger than the other (not sure yet whether it's due to buccal fat or jaw muscle). I'm considering getting
1. double eyelid (incision method) + considering epi
2. autologous rhinoplasty (I've got a pretty high bridge to begin with)
3. tiplasty + alarplasty
4. chin implant
5. jaw botox (crossing my fingers that my assymetrical face is caused by muscle and not fat. No buccal fat removal for me cos my family has a history of sunken cheeks with age :P)

Not really comfortable showing my entire face here, so let me upload some cropped/mosaic-ed pictures of mine...
Image

For me, the most pressing issue would be my nose. I really HATE it! Judging from the numerous before/after pics that others have posted, I think there is potential to make my nose look much better - especially since I have an above average bridge to begin with. I'm *guessing* that my case wouldn't be too complicated?

Which brings me to my dilemma - Taiwan or Bangkok? I initially wanted to visit Dr. Hsu for my rhinoplasty and another surgeon (undecided) for double eyelid + epi + chin), BUT my company is moving me to Bangkok, so obviously it would be super convenient for me to do it there right? Plus I'd have all the time in the world for recovery, and be close to my surgeon should any complications arise. I had my sights set on Dr Pat, until I recently read the less than glowing reviews about him :(

I'm just wondering if the many experienced forumers here would be able to suggest whether a Taiwanese or Thai surgeon would be better equipped to handle my surgery? I'm willing to pay up to 65000 baht for a complete nose job (autologous implant only, otherwise will just settle for tip+alar). As for the rest - eyes and chin, willing to pay industry average in whichever country. TIA!


hmmm, 65000 baht wun be able to get u an autologous rhino in taiwan, so guess u're stuck with thailand. it doesn't look that bad, i think an L-implant with alar will solve most of it. Chin implant will help to improve face shape too :)

not sure why one cheek is bigger. i had similar problem, doc told me is cos one side of my jaw is less developed than the other...
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Postby sasa05_ » Thu, 13 Aug 2009 6:52 pm

pootie wrote:the docs will squeeze out the excess liquid from the incision points. you may stil continue to leak after that which always happened to me.. you will be gauzed at the incision points and yes, you'll be given gauzes too to change ur own dressing.. u have to buy the waterproof film dressing (from pharmacy in spore or hatyai) so u can shower after tat... actually wat i did was when i reached the hotel, i quickly changed my dressing to the waterproof one and showered quickly, then after i showered,replaced with the gauze.. else cant shower cos the incision points cannot touch water else can risk infection..

when i get up in the morning i would have stopped leaking.. so change to the waterproof film dressing again and u dun need to remove/change it till u see the doc after 1 week to remove the stitches..

most chubby girls have butterfly arms, so u're not the only one.. what u can do is hit the gym and do triceps exercises to tone tat part up.. in fact you shd do regular exercises after that to tone up and maintain ur new figure.. not just the arms..

anyways, if you have existing stretch marks already, they will just get more obvious... buy creams to lighten stretch marks, u cant get rid of it unless u do laser i think.. some pple are just more prone to stretch marks, i have some on my hips, some girls have them at the arms, some on the bosom area... popping collagen pills probably helps to prepare ur skin to stretch/destretch.. :)

Pootie,

Will we be awake during the procedure?
If yes, did u feel alot of pressure?
now 1 of my gf is interested but she heard horror stories abt the procedure...
how the doc will use the canula to twist and turn inside the body... :shock:
is dat true? will we feel dat? :oops:

I see many different compression garments...
with zips and wifout zips..
which 1 is better?

i got like millions of questions i wanna ask! :oops:

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Postby pootie » Thu, 13 Aug 2009 7:19 pm

sasa05_ wrote:
pootie wrote:the docs will squeeze out the excess liquid from the incision points. you may stil continue to leak after that which always happened to me.. you will be gauzed at the incision points and yes, you'll be given gauzes too to change ur own dressing.. u have to buy the waterproof film dressing (from pharmacy in spore or hatyai) so u can shower after tat... actually wat i did was when i reached the hotel, i quickly changed my dressing to the waterproof one and showered quickly, then after i showered,replaced with the gauze.. else cant shower cos the incision points cannot touch water else can risk infection..

when i get up in the morning i would have stopped leaking.. so change to the waterproof film dressing again and u dun need to remove/change it till u see the doc after 1 week to remove the stitches..

most chubby girls have butterfly arms, so u're not the only one.. what u can do is hit the gym and do triceps exercises to tone tat part up.. in fact you shd do regular exercises after that to tone up and maintain ur new figure.. not just the arms..

anyways, if you have existing stretch marks already, they will just get more obvious... buy creams to lighten stretch marks, u cant get rid of it unless u do laser i think.. some pple are just more prone to stretch marks, i have some on my hips, some girls have them at the arms, some on the bosom area... popping collagen pills probably helps to prepare ur skin to stretch/destretch.. :)

Pootie,

Will we be awake during the procedure?
If yes, did u feel alot of pressure?
now 1 of my gf is interested but she heard horror stories abt the procedure...
how the doc will use the canula to twist and turn inside the body... :shock:
is dat true? will we feel dat? :oops:

I see many different compression garments...
with zips and wifout zips..
which 1 is better?

i got like millions of questions i wanna ask! :oops:


doc will inject local anaesthesia to numb ur area of lipo. u will feel the injections on those areas. then the nurse will inject the front iof ur hand then u will knock out.. my fren who went with me said he heard me saying ouch ouch ouch, which i could hardly remember.. i think they told me they;re done and then i think i got dressed.. LOL... guess its short term memory loss.. ok my fren's procedure was after me tats y he heard..

u will be asleep and u wont know wat the doc is doing to u.. LOL

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Postby Berserkmind » Thu, 13 Aug 2009 7:33 pm

I got a question for those of you out there who has done surgeries to change the shape/contour of your face.

I will be doing chin and cheekbone implants with Dr Nara, but i am thinking of going to Tokai for Jaw bone reduction either 1 day before or 1 day after the surgery at Hatyai. if my face is swollen (out of shape) due to a surgery before that, will the doctor doing the surgery after have problem judging what size of implant or how much to cut becos he cant tell how my actual face shape looks like?

Like example if Dr Pat does jaw reduction based on my current chin and cheekbone size but 2 days later i go Dr Nara to do implants will the proportion go wrong? or will Dr Nara chose too large implants for me cos my face will look too big due to swelling?

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Postby sasa05_ » Thu, 13 Aug 2009 9:18 pm

pootie wrote:doc will inject local anaesthesia to numb ur area of lipo. u will feel the injections on those areas. then the nurse will inject the front iof ur hand then u will knock out.. my fren who went with me said he heard me saying ouch ouch ouch, which i could hardly remember.. i think they told me they;re done and then i think i got dressed.. LOL... guess its short term memory loss.. ok my fren's procedure was after me tats y he heard..

u will be asleep and u wont know wat the doc is doing to u.. LOL

u noe ah, when my gf was telling me wat she heard..
i was like errr... errrr...... "how ah?" :shock:

so the doc will actually wake u up once its done?
how do u feel the moment u're up?
any pain/discomfort or tiredness?

Could anyone advise me wat's the difference btw compression wif zippers and without? Which 1 is better?
I'm lookng at veronique's c-garments.
the 1 for lowerbody - both are above knee body garments (same thing)
wif zippers are "Ideal for immediate postoperative wear."
non zippers are "Ideal for wear during the final body contouring and skin retraction phase of your recovery"
of cos non zippers is wat i looking at...
to retract the skin :oops:

actually i was looking at full body suit all along.
but then now i'm thinking maybe i shld buy seperates cos i still can wear it as girdle in future when i wear dresses?

So many things to read, do research and purchase....
looking forward to it yet so nervous at the same time.... :???:

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Postby pootie » Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:16 am

sasa05_ wrote:
pootie wrote:doc will inject local anaesthesia to numb ur area of lipo. u will feel the injections on those areas. then the nurse will inject the front iof ur hand then u will knock out.. my fren who went with me said he heard me saying ouch ouch ouch, which i could hardly remember.. i think they told me they;re done and then i think i got dressed.. LOL... guess its short term memory loss.. ok my fren's procedure was after me tats y he heard..

u will be asleep and u wont know wat the doc is doing to u.. LOL

u noe ah, when my gf was telling me wat she heard..
i was like errr... errrr...... "how ah?" :shock:

so the doc will actually wake u up once its done?
how do u feel the moment u're up?
any pain/discomfort or tiredness?

Could anyone advise me wat's the difference btw compression wif zippers and without? Which 1 is better?
I'm lookng at veronique's c-garments.
the 1 for lowerbody - both are above knee body garments (same thing)
wif zippers are "Ideal for immediate postoperative wear."
non zippers are "Ideal for wear during the final body contouring and skin retraction phase of your recovery"
of cos non zippers is wat i looking at...
to retract the skin :oops:

actually i was looking at full body suit all along.
but then now i'm thinking maybe i shld buy seperates cos i still can wear it as girdle in future when i wear dresses?

So many things to read, do research and purchase....
looking forward to it yet so nervous at the same time.... :???:


i actually cant realy remember if i woke up or the nurse/doc woke me. but i remembered faintly walking in the robe and changing back to my clothes. by then i was already much awake and could walk back to the hotel. and i told myslef i had to walk str8 and not like a drunkard.. lol

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Postby confabulate » Fri, 14 Aug 2009 2:58 pm

Hi for those whom have done rhino, any advices on the following.

Its post 7th day of my surgery, but i still feel and see (although not obvious) some swelling at the start of the implant(the bridge between the upper part of the eyes) Is this normal ?

Also the width of my bridge is like so much wider now it was -||- now it became -| |- i hope is because of the swelling (but then again i dont quite think so coz i can feel that the bridge is hard and its not meaty[i suppose if your skin is swelling and you try to press against it you will feel soft and mearty instead hard and less meaty])

Btw i had my rhino done with Dr Putt. And hatyai is not that boring after all, i bought like 10 over tshirts and polo-t, 1 leather shoes, 2 slippers and some souveneirs. Other things that you might want to do there is massage and sharkfins(though i didnt tried any of it, my peeps did). For movies, the cinema at lee garden only have few movies with english sub-title.

We stayed in Novotel and is just opposite lee garden (extremely near lahz), the hotel was fine except for some shortcomings. Only certain rooms have safebox(for keeping valuables and impt docs such as passport and additional cash, PSP etc), the shower head is attached to the wall, quite inconvenient since after the surgery i was trying to avoid water flowing into my nostril and i need to have good control over how the water should hit my face. The wifi in the hotel is also quite expensive so in the end i went to the mc at lee garden (they have wifi there and is only like 50bht for 1 hour)

To sum up, it was really quite an enjoyable trip. I was lucky enough to have 4 other peeps with me.

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Postby EnvyMe » Fri, 14 Aug 2009 3:27 pm

sasa05_ wrote:
pootie wrote:doc will inject local anaesthesia to numb ur area of lipo. u will feel the injections on those areas. then the nurse will inject the front iof ur hand then u will knock out.. my fren who went with me said he heard me saying ouch ouch ouch, which i could hardly remember.. i think they told me they;re done and then i think i got dressed.. LOL... guess its short term memory loss.. ok my fren's procedure was after me tats y he heard..

u will be asleep and u wont know wat the doc is doing to u.. LOL

u noe ah, when my gf was telling me wat she heard..
i was like errr... errrr...... "how ah?" :shock:

so the doc will actually wake u up once its done?
how do u feel the moment u're up?
any pain/discomfort or tiredness?

Could anyone advise me wat's the difference btw compression wif zippers and without? Which 1 is better?
I'm lookng at veronique's c-garments.
the 1 for lowerbody - both are above knee body garments (same thing)
wif zippers are "Ideal for immediate postoperative wear."
non zippers are "Ideal for wear during the final body contouring and skin retraction phase of your recovery"
of cos non zippers is wat i looking at...
to retract the skin :oops:

actually i was looking at full body suit all along.
but then now i'm thinking maybe i shld buy seperates cos i still can wear it as girdle in future when i wear dresses?

So many things to read, do research and purchase....
looking forward to it yet so nervous at the same time.... :???:


You can purchase everything at Makemeheal.com , both compression garment and sinecch. Sinecch is only costing about $40 SGD over there.

I just ordered mine and waiting for it to arrive at my place, going over to Nara for LIPO very very soon! So excited.

Zipper is stage 1 garment and non zipper is stage 2 garments.

Stage 1 is worn 1st-2nd week right after surgery and stage 2 garments is for you to wear after that up to 6-8weeks -> that will solve your saggy skin problem therefore getting the compression garment is definitely needed!

I was once like you, finding lots of research and all, now I'm already done with my homework and getting ready to go!!

P/s: not trying to advertise or what here but customer service from makemeheal.com is excellent!!!! Forever they'll answer all your questions and not afraid that they will leave out any question you ask.

Damn friendly.

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Postby yeegf » Fri, 14 Aug 2009 3:33 pm

Plastic Surgery
-Rhinoplasty(Augmentation)
-Double Eyelid

Skin Laser
-Lesion removal(Chest,Adomen,Back)
-Hair Removal(Chest,Adomen,Thigh) Teeth
-Bleaching/LaserWhitening
-Braces

Eye -Lasik

Also.. I would like to whiten my teeth and also put on braces.

Where in Bangkok is the Best place to have the above surgery/operation/services done? I am hoping that a good hospital is recommended. I can stay in the hospital till everything is done and not be exposed to the outside world till then..

Hopefully you guys can send me some estimated price and personal experience?

Thanks!

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Postby EnvyMe » Fri, 14 Aug 2009 3:33 pm

pootie wrote:
sasa05_ wrote:
pootie wrote:doc will inject local anaesthesia to numb ur area of lipo. u will feel the injections on those areas. then the nurse will inject the front iof ur hand then u will knock out.. my fren who went with me said he heard me saying ouch ouch ouch, which i could hardly remember.. i think they told me they;re done and then i think i got dressed.. LOL... guess its short term memory loss.. ok my fren's procedure was after me tats y he heard..

u will be asleep and u wont know wat the doc is doing to u.. LOL

u noe ah, when my gf was telling me wat she heard..
i was like errr... errrr...... "how ah?" :shock:

so the doc will actually wake u up once its done?
how do u feel the moment u're up?
any pain/discomfort or tiredness?

Could anyone advise me wat's the difference btw compression wif zippers and without? Which 1 is better?
I'm lookng at veronique's c-garments.
the 1 for lowerbody - both are above knee body garments (same thing)
wif zippers are "Ideal for immediate postoperative wear."
non zippers are "Ideal for wear during the final body contouring and skin retraction phase of your recovery"
of cos non zippers is wat i looking at...
to retract the skin :oops:

actually i was looking at full body suit all along.
but then now i'm thinking maybe i shld buy seperates cos i still can wear it as girdle in future when i wear dresses?

So many things to read, do research and purchase....
looking forward to it yet so nervous at the same time.... :???:


i actually cant realy remember if i woke up or the nurse/doc woke me. but i remembered faintly walking in the robe and changing back to my clothes. by then i was already much awake and could walk back to the hotel. and i told myslef i had to walk str8 and not like a drunkard.. lol



Sorry Pootie, did you mentioned which area you did with Nara? Sorry too many post till I'm so mixed up already.

Wa need to put on the waterproof filming huh.. I am going to to arms, tummy and thigh. which means I have difficulty to shower after that. I'm thinking of gg to the hair salon to wash my hair everyday. Lol. Salon in hatyai should be cheap also ba?

Oh yah, one question, may I ask you for each area/each day you did the lipo, how long was the whole procedure from you getting to lie on the surgery bed till you get up to go?

Thanks!

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Postby EnvyMe » Fri, 14 Aug 2009 3:37 pm

aadvark wrote:
EnvyMe wrote:
Brenton wrote:
EnvyMe wrote:
aadvark wrote:
EnvyMe wrote:I am going over to Nara soon! doing 4 days of lipo. However, about the sinecch, i wanted to order but was told 1 packet is enough. What you guys advice? Really 1 packet is enough?


there are instructions on the packet, u take b4 the op, just b4 the op, post op, and day after op as well, so it shld cover the entire op and beyond


Thanks Aadvark! I called up rachael, she told me 2 packets. Now I don't know listen to who.


I bought two packets when i did my nose and eyes..
hmm it's up to individual i guess...cos i dunno what's the outcome if i did not eat them..so can't really comment...but i did spread out taking the content of the two boxes


Hi Brenton,

Do you think there will be difference in your healing process if you consume 1 packet of Sinecch instead of 2?

What do you mean by spread out to consume the 2 packets? Is it something like after finishing the 1st packet, you stop 1 day or 2 and continue with the second packet??

Thanks in advance!!!


Rachel works for the pharmaceutical so she should have more experience dealing in it. I reread your post, u will be doing multiple days of lipo, i suppose 2 packets make sense. Tot it's only like a one day full surgery thingey :)


Yeap! thanks. I bought 2 packets already! Better also, can help me heal better. Just a little confused how I should use this 2 packets, shall I continue 1 packet after another straight away or consume like how Brenton did, taking the same pill of each packet day by day.

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Postby yeegf » Fri, 14 Aug 2009 3:38 pm

Berserkmind wrote:I got a question for those of you out there who has done surgeries to change the shape/contour of your face.

I will be doing chin and cheekbone implants with Dr Nara, but i am thinking of going to Tokai for Jaw bone reduction either 1 day before or 1 day after the surgery at Hatyai. if my face is swollen (out of shape) due to a surgery before that, will the doctor doing the surgery after have problem judging what size of implant or how much to cut becos he cant tell how my actual face shape looks like?

Like example if Dr Pat does jaw reduction based on my current chin and cheekbone size but 2 days later i go Dr Nara to do implants will the proportion go wrong? or will Dr Nara chose too large implants for me cos my face will look too big due to swelling?


PLEASE do not do that!

That is highly risky and they are only but human and not Gods.
They will most likely make mistakes even if you tell them beforehand that it's swollen..
You better wait for the swell to go off before you regret doing such a unsensible thing..

DONT do it..

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Postby yeegf » Fri, 14 Aug 2009 3:41 pm

yeegf wrote:Plastic Surgery
-Rhinoplasty(Augmentation)
-Double Eyelid

Skin Laser
-Lesion removal(Chest,Adomen,Back)
-Hair Removal(Chest,Adomen,Thigh) Teeth
-Bleaching/LaserWhitening
-Braces

Eye -Lasik

Also.. I would like to whiten my teeth and also put on braces.

Where in Bangkok is the Best place to have the above surgery/operation/services done? I am hoping that a good hospital is recommended. I can stay in the hospital till everything is done and not be exposed to the outside world till then..

Hopefully you guys can send me some estimated price and personal experience?

Thanks!


Somebody help me with this pleasee..


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