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Postby daybreakk » Tue, 23 Dec 2008 5:57 pm

aadvark wrote:day 4 in bkk, just consulted with dr pat today.

the trip was thrown into disarray, cos my gal fren accompanied me here to BKK for the surgery. 2nd day we arrived, we went chatuchak mkt to shop. My fren got pickpocketed and all her cash ($1000 SGD) all gone. So end up, we surviving on my cash, and i had to use my surgery money as well, so cannot even contemplate Yanhee based on their prices. decided to give tokai a try else my whole trip wld have been wasted.

i called tokai this morning, and asked whether the doc was free to meet me for consultation today. nurse mistook me as wanting to speak to dr pat directly. dr pat came to the phone and asked what my name was. i gave my full name and he immediately said, Oh you are my old patient. i was duly impressed. i asked if i cld meet him at 5pm, and he said, you are my old patient, u can meet me any time. i was very touched :)

due to erm, shopping delays :oops: we only arrived at the clinic at 6 plus. dr pat was in surgery, but came down for a quick consult. he said my jaw looked better than b4, which i cannot deny from the side profile pix. but i said my jaw looks so much wider than b4 from the front. he dug up my old emails and he showed me the lee hom pix i sent him previously (my fren was chuckling loudly in the background, cos she was amused at how much i wanted to look like my idol :P)

he said cos my natural face was roundish, while lee hom's is oval, it's quite difficult to go against the genetics to achieve the same shape. he said he can revise for me if i really wanted to but he gave me the measurements for the implant and said that if he made it smaller, it wun be as defined as the current state.

he then suggested that my face looks wide now because my chin implant is too small and sharp. this is something i had contemplated b4 too. when i first did the chin implant with dr nara, he made it sharp cos my face was narrower and it was well-suited. but after my jaw implants, my face became wider but still tapered to a small sharp pt at my chin, which does look a bit unnatural.

i was much more convinced with this recommendation than dr pat's previous recommendation that i reduce my cheekbones to make my whole face smaller. he said that he usually charges USD800 for a new chin implant, but he wld charge me the same rate for revision. he then took out a calc and said that it wld convert to 27000+ baht. before i cld bargain, he said, i'll give u a special price at 20000 baht. wow, he totally changed my opinion that he was all abt the money :D

i told him whether i cld be sedated as i was still a little traumatised by my jaw surgery which was done under LA only. he said, no problem, he will put me to sleep, so no food and drink 4 hrs b4 surgery. i assume that means i'd be under GA, YAY! :D

will get my surgery done at 2pm *fingers crossed*.


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Postby boicott » Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:37 pm

daybreakk wrote:
aadvark wrote:day 4 in bkk, just consulted with dr pat today.

the trip was thrown into disarray, cos my gal fren accompanied me here to BKK for the surgery. 2nd day we arrived, we went chatuchak mkt to shop. My fren got pickpocketed and all her cash ($1000 SGD) all gone. So end up, we surviving on my cash, and i had to use my surgery money as well, so cannot even contemplate Yanhee based on their prices. decided to give tokai a try else my whole trip wld have been wasted.

i called tokai this morning, and asked whether the doc was free to meet me for consultation today. nurse mistook me as wanting to speak to dr pat directly. dr pat came to the phone and asked what my name was. i gave my full name and he immediately said, Oh you are my old patient. i was duly impressed. i asked if i cld meet him at 5pm, and he said, you are my old patient, u can meet me any time. i was very touched :)

due to erm, shopping delays :oops: we only arrived at the clinic at 6 plus. dr pat was in surgery, but came down for a quick consult. he said my jaw looked better than b4, which i cannot deny from the side profile pix. but i said my jaw looks so much wider than b4 from the front. he dug up my old emails and he showed me the lee hom pix i sent him previously (my fren was chuckling loudly in the background, cos she was amused at how much i wanted to look like my idol :P)

he said cos my natural face was roundish, while lee hom's is oval, it's quite difficult to go against the genetics to achieve the same shape. he said he can revise for me if i really wanted to but he gave me the measurements for the implant and said that if he made it smaller, it wun be as defined as the current state.

he then suggested that my face looks wide now because my chin implant is too small and sharp. this is something i had contemplated b4 too. when i first did the chin implant with dr nara, he made it sharp cos my face was narrower and it was well-suited. but after my jaw implants, my face became wider but still tapered to a small sharp pt at my chin, which does look a bit unnatural.

i was much more convinced with this recommendation than dr pat's previous recommendation that i reduce my cheekbones to make my whole face smaller. he said that he usually charges USD800 for a new chin implant, but he wld charge me the same rate for revision. he then took out a calc and said that it wld convert to 27000+ baht. before i cld bargain, he said, i'll give u a special price at 20000 baht. wow, he totally changed my opinion that he was all abt the money :D

i told him whether i cld be sedated as i was still a little traumatised by my jaw surgery which was done under LA only. he said, no problem, he will put me to sleep, so no food and drink 4 hrs b4 surgery. i assume that means i'd be under GA, YAY! :D

will get my surgery done at 2pm *fingers crossed*.


Wish you all the best.


Yep, get well soon. hope the results will be great for you.

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Postby aadvark » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 1:44 am

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baybiblu wrote:
Ian20 wrote:Thanks, do you know roughly how much those extra expenses like anaesthesia would be? Shouldn't be more than 10 000 BHT would it?

And would I be able to tell that there has been a complication after a nose job in the 10 or so days im in Thailand? Because im from Australia, and if i get back home and then realise there has been a complication il have to pay airfare and accomodation expenses all over again, so will i be able to tell while im there so i can get it fixed before i fly home, or will my nose be too swollen? :roll:


If i remember correctly, my friend paid about an additional S$800 for the extra expenses at the hospital.

She wasn't able to tell that her jaw was uneven after the surgery as it was quite swollen. Only after about 3 months when the swelling has gone down significantly did she realize the problem.


I think jaw surgery quite hard to ensure even-ness, but thats not an excuse cos the taiwan ones seem roughly(!!) even. Cause its such a long surgery, swelling will surely set in halfway thru the operation..... Nonetheless, this shows that extra costs of anesthesia and op room booking etc are always borne by the patient. dr chuang however offers free revision (totally) for BA if im not wrong, provided in a few months there is a silical rupture..


Thanks for the info, wow she had to fork out $800 when it was the doc that made the mistake. eeeeek :? , everyone told me that going to thailand and having "cheap tourist plastic surgery" was dodgy and very risky, but i would tell them no the hospitals/doctors are world class and more advanced medicine,. but now with all these bad reviews and extra hidden costs etc. im starting to think it is kind of dodgy


think it's common practice, tot i read from the main surgery thread that some docs from korea and taiwan practise the same
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Postby aadvark » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 2:06 am

Ian20 wrote:
aadvark wrote:day 4 in bkk, just consulted with dr pat today.

the trip was thrown into disarray, cos my gal fren accompanied me here to BKK for the surgery. 2nd day we arrived, we went chatuchak mkt to shop. My fren got pickpocketed and all her cash ($1000 SGD) all gone. So end up, we surviving on my cash, and i had to use my surgery money as well, so cannot even contemplate Yanhee based on their prices. decided to give tokai a try else my whole trip wld have been wasted.

i called tokai this morning, and asked whether the doc was free to meet me for consultation today. nurse mistook me as wanting to speak to dr pat directly. dr pat came to the phone and asked what my name was. i gave my full name and he immediately said, Oh you are my old patient. i was duly impressed. i asked if i cld meet him at 5pm, and he said, you are my old patient, u can meet me any time. i was very touched :)

due to erm, shopping delays :oops: we only arrived at the clinic at 6 plus. dr pat was in surgery, but came down for a quick consult. he said my jaw looked better than b4, which i cannot deny from the side profile pix. but i said my jaw looks so much wider than b4 from the front. he dug up my old emails and he showed me the lee hom pix i sent him previously (my fren was chuckling loudly in the background, cos she was amused at how much i wanted to look like my idol :P)

he said cos my natural face was roundish, while lee hom's is oval, it's quite difficult to go against the genetics to achieve the same shape. he said he can revise for me if i really wanted to but he gave me the measurements for the implant and said that if he made it smaller, it wun be as defined as the current state.

he then suggested that my face looks wide now because my chin implant is too small and sharp. this is something i had contemplated b4 too. when i first did the chin implant with dr nara, he made it sharp cos my face was narrower and it was well-suited. but after my jaw implants, my face became wider but still tapered to a small sharp pt at my chin, which does look a bit unnatural.

i was much more convinced with this recommendation than dr pat's previous recommendation that i reduce my cheekbones to make my whole face smaller. he said that he usually charges USD800 for a new chin implant, but he wld charge me the same rate for revision. he then took out a calc and said that it wld convert to 27000+ baht. before i cld bargain, he said, i'll give u a special price at 20000 baht. wow, he totally changed my opinion that he was all abt the money :D

i told him whether i cld be sedated as i was still a little traumatised by my jaw surgery which was done under LA only. he said, no problem, he will put me to sleep, so no food and drink 4 hrs b4 surgery. i assume that means i'd be under GA, YAY! :D

will get my surgery done at 2pm *fingers crossed*.


Oh no so after the doc made a mistake, u had to pay airfare/accomodation expenses and then on top of that 20 000BHT just to have it fixed? wow im really starting to get a bad impression of Thailand plastic surgery.

And what do u mean "he said no problem i'l put you to sleep" r u telling me some doctors in Thailand wont put you to sleep for a surgery? :o


if you came to that conclusion after 149 pages of this thread, then u must only be concentrating on the negatives and not any of the positives.

it'd be easy to say that Dr Pat made a blunder, but i've refrained from saying that all this while. i asked for jaw implants and a more defined jawline, and he did manage to give it to me. my dissatisfaction with the final result cld have many factors, and since i chose to do diff areas with diff surgeons, i guess i had to take responsibility for my own face too.

the 20,000 baht wasn't for redoing the jaw implants which Dr Pat did, but for revising the chin implant that Dr Nara did. so he was giving me a special price for redoing another doc's work. no, dr nara didn't blunder either. dr nara gave me a chin implant based on my previous face shape, so now dr pat is revising the chin implant to suit the new face shape after the jaw implants. hope that clarifies matters.

ops can be carried under LA, GA or twilight sedation. If wisdom teeth can be removed under LA (i removed 4 at one go under LA), a simple implant can easily be done that way too, but of cos i rather not be.

chin implant revised, the whole face is much more balanced now even though there's swelling. I am finally one step closer to my ideal face! :D
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Postby baybiblu » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 3:21 am

Hi aadvark. If its not too much trouble, may I ask you a question about your personal experience with chin implants?

The plastic surgeons I've consulted all advised me to have a chin implant to fix my recessed chin (my chin is very tiny and does not protrude out much). During my consultation with Dr. Pat, he mentioned that the chin implant can also help to make my face look slimmer (I feel that my face is too round).

After your chin implant with Dr. Nara, did you notice your face becoming slimmer? Does the chin implant easily shift its position when you accidentally knock onto it? Was there any noticeable bruising/swelling after the sugery and if so, how long did it take to subside? I also heard from some surgeons that doing a chin implant can make the nose appear smaller. Did you personally observe that for your face?

So sorry for having to bug you with these questions but I'm scheduled for a chin implant surgery in early Jan and as the days draw nearer, I'm more and more worried that my face might end up looking worse than before the surgery. Also, my school term would start in the following week after surgery and I'm afraid that the swelling and bruising might draw unwanted attention on campus.

~Thanks in advance
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Postby aadvark » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 3:48 am

baybiblu wrote:Hi aadvark. If its not too much trouble, may I ask you a question about your personal experience with chin implants?

The plastic surgeons I've consulted all advised me to have a chin implant to fix my recessed chin (my chin is very tiny and does not protrude out much). During my consultation with Dr. Pat, he mentioned that the chin implant can also help to make my face look slimmer (I feel that my face is too round).

After your chin implant with Dr. Nara, did you notice your face becoming slimmer? Does the chin implant easily shift its position when you accidentally knock onto it? Was there any noticeable bruising/swelling after the sugery and if so, how long did it take to subside? I also heard from some surgeons that doing a chin implant can make the nose appear smaller. Did you personally observe that for your face?

So sorry for having to bug you with these questions but I'm scheduled for a chin implant surgery in early Jan and as the days draw nearer, I'm more and more worried that my face might end up looking worse than before the surgery. Also, my school term would start in the following week after surgery and I'm afraid that the swelling and bruising might draw unwanted attention on campus.

~Thanks in advance


it def makes ur face slimmer. first time i did the chin implant, whole face is pulled longer, everyone commented i slimmed down but no one mentioned anything abt a chin implant. the good thing abt swelling for chin implants is that it swells mostly vertically downwards, so it's not horribly obvious.

it makes sense that it makes ur nose look smaller. when ur face is pulled longer by the chin implant, the total surface area when viewed from the front will seem increased. so ur nose:face ratio will def decrease, hope that makes sense :)

it feels a little soft first few mths, but as time goes by, it feels as solid as ur own bone, so just have to be careful at the beginning :)

one last thing, first time i did with dr nara, i did intra-oral, means from inside the mouth. if u have a choice, do it from below the chin, small incision only, wun leave much scarring if any at all. i remember how horrible it was to keep the wound clean, and swelling prevented me from eating properly for a while. now i did from below the chin, i cld eat straight after the surgery without much problem, just my 2 cents worth :)
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Postby aadvark » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 3:49 am

baybiblu wrote:Hi aadvark. If its not too much trouble, may I ask you a question about your personal experience with chin implants?

The plastic surgeons I've consulted all advised me to have a chin implant to fix my recessed chin (my chin is very tiny and does not protrude out much). During my consultation with Dr. Pat, he mentioned that the chin implant can also help to make my face look slimmer (I feel that my face is too round).

After your chin implant with Dr. Nara, did you notice your face becoming slimmer? Does the chin implant easily shift its position when you accidentally knock onto it? Was there any noticeable bruising/swelling after the sugery and if so, how long did it take to subside? I also heard from some surgeons that doing a chin implant can make the nose appear smaller. Did you personally observe that for your face?

So sorry for having to bug you with these questions but I'm scheduled for a chin implant surgery in early Jan and as the days draw nearer, I'm more and more worried that my face might end up looking worse than before the surgery. Also, my school term would start in the following week after surgery and I'm afraid that the swelling and bruising might draw unwanted attention on campus.

~Thanks in advance


it def makes ur face slimmer. first time i did the chin implant, whole face is pulled longer, everyone commented i slimmed down but no one mentioned anything abt a chin implant. the good thing abt swelling for chin implants is that it swells mostly vertically downwards, so it's not horribly obvious.

it makes sense that it makes ur nose look smaller. when ur face is pulled longer by the chin implant, the total surface area when viewed from the front will seem increased. so ur nose:face ratio will def decrease, hope that makes sense :)

it feels a little soft first few mths, but as time goes by, it feels as solid as ur own bone, so just have to be careful at the beginning :)

one last thing, first time i did with dr nara, i did intra-oral, means from inside the mouth. if u have a choice, do it from below the chin, small incision only, wun leave much scarring if any at all. i remember how horrible it was to keep the wound clean, and swelling prevented me from eating properly for a while. now i did from below the chin, i cld eat straight after the surgery without much problem, just my 2 cents worth :)
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Postby aadvark » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 4:00 am

cersepn wrote:Haha good luck man aadvark! Hopefully this is the last jaw/chin procedure you have to do and everything will look good after. hehe :D


god bless ur kind soul :D i think it looks pretty ok now but as usual, will wait for 3 mths b4 jumping to any conclusions, will mark it down on my calendar :D
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Postby gordiansknot » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 4:02 am

chipsmore wrote:/
gordiansknot wrote:hi all,
i just went for BA with dr nara, i must say he is a very nice and friendly doctor. and he has got a group of friendsly staff, esp there's a nurse who volunteered to send me to the clinic for a blood test in her motobike.

overall was okay, but i guess the pain is too much for me,i opted for the incision under the breast. i went back on a 15 hours coach ride straight after the op.

and nara skills, i must say its quite good(=
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How do you get to Nara, as in transport and stuffs?


oh i got to hdy by coach, 15 hours journey -madness.and stayed at a hotel nearby , thus walkng distance.nara's clinic is quite accessible

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Postby chipsmore » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:22 pm

gordiansknot wrote:
chipsmore wrote:/
gordiansknot wrote:hi all,
i just went for BA with dr nara, i must say he is a very nice and friendly doctor. and he has got a group of friendsly staff, esp there's a nurse who volunteered to send me to the clinic for a blood test in her motobike.

overall was okay, but i guess the pain is too much for me,i opted for the incision under the breast. i went back on a 15 hours coach ride straight after the op.

and nara skills, i must say its quite good(=
thumb's up


How do you get to Nara, as in transport and stuffs?


oh i got to hdy by coach, 15 hours journey -madness.and stayed at a hotel nearby , thus walkng distance.nara's clinic is quite accessible


Wow, we can get to NYC in like 3more hours. Haha..that's really far!
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Postby Ian20 » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 1:15 pm

Thanks for the info aadvark how was your Rhinoplasty? Do you have before after pictures plz?

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Postby jawful » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 4:47 pm

Hi All...

Just did jaw reduction surgery 2 weeks ago.

There is numbness at lower right lips and chin. Is this common? I am unable to move it.

Went to hospital to get checked, they said might be complications from jaw surgery.

Anyone experienced this before? Please advise.

Thank you!

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Postby aadvark » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 7:35 pm

jawful wrote:Hi All...

Just did jaw reduction surgery 2 weeks ago.

There is numbness at lower right lips and chin. Is this common? I am unable to move it.

Went to hospital to get checked, they said might be complications from jaw surgery.

Anyone experienced this before? Please advise.

Thank you!


just posted this to similar qtn in tokai thread as well :)

i did my jaw implants with tokai, my lower lips were also numb for quite a while. i did reflect this to Dr Pat, and told him i was concerned my nerve may be damaged. he told me he did from inside my mouth along my gums, so there is no reason why it shld damage the nerve at the lip. just had to take his word for it and wait

it got better as time went by and right side got back feeling after few weeks. few months later, the feeling came back to the left side as well. cld have been due to microscopic swelling, maybe wait a while more and see? did he do from inside as well for u?
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Postby jawful » Wed, 24 Dec 2008 7:42 pm

aadvark wrote:
jawful wrote:Hi All...

Just did jaw reduction surgery 2 weeks ago.

There is numbness at lower right lips and chin. Is this common? I am unable to move it.

Went to hospital to get checked, they said might be complications from jaw surgery.

Anyone experienced this before? Please advise.

Thank you!


just posted this to similar qtn in tokai thread as well :)

i did my jaw implants with tokai, my lower lips were also numb for quite a while. i did reflect this to Dr Pat, and told him i was concerned my nerve may be damaged. he told me he did from inside my mouth along my gums, so there is no reason why it shld damage the nerve at the lip. just had to take his word for it and wait

it got better as time went by and right side got back feeling after few weeks. few months later, the feeling came back to the left side as well. cld have been due to microscopic swelling, maybe wait a while more and see? did he do from inside as well for u?


Hello,

I did with Tokai as well! Mine was numb from lower lips and chin down.. then like yours, the numbness disappeared from left lower lip and chin.
It is still numb on right lower lip and chin..

Were you able to control movement of lower lip then?

Mine was initially done from inside but Dr Pat said too much bleeding so he did from outside instead.

There is assymetry in my smile now as i can control lower left lip and not the right one.. Did this occur to you too as you said the numbness for your right side went away first.

Thanks!

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Postby aadvark » Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:43 pm

mine was all done from inside and i only felt numbness, but still able to control. not sure if urs is aggravated by doing from outside as well, think u better get it checked and get a 2nd opinion as well
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