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Post by daybreakk » Sun, 20 Apr 2008 2:41 pm

Lee garden is actually at Hatyai which people choose when they go nara coz its only 5 minutes walk. Tokai is in Bangkok i don think there is lovely tour at BKK
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girl88 wrote:if i take coach, will the place be near dr nara? kinda scare to go there. is it dangerous to take cab there as well?

Hi Girl88,
We had traveled by Grassland and had also booked the hotel (Lee Garden Plaza) with them. The coach would dropped you at Lovely Tour and there would be a free took took to bring you to the hotel. Hope this help...

What about tokai clinic in BK ? How to get there by coach? If I travel with Grassland, would they dropped me at Lovely Tour and provide me a free tour guide? Are there hotels near tokai clinic?

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Post by danita » Sun, 20 Apr 2008 3:48 pm

happyliving wrote:Hi All,
As some may be aware, I already had few rounds of infection since my PS in last year Dec. I have just started a new job and can't afford to have any leave nor mc. I had emailed to Dr Nara and the nurse had called asking me to go back asap saying my nose would deformed if don't remove the implant. I had also emailed to Dr Pat and he also ask me to remove asap if not I would lose my nose like michael jackson. I had spent alots of money since then. Now I'm taking expensive antibiotics that cost $9 each. My nose is having the worst infection among all. Red and swollen with pus coming out till my new colleague had asked what happened to my nose bridge. Super depressed.....
I know I have to remove it but after that how do I face my colleague in office. I would return to office with a flat nose. Both Dr Nara and Dr Pat replied that they can't do another implant for me straight away. Must wait for the infection to heal first.
Hence, I'm giving local PS a try hoping to have some good news. I'm praying very hard now.
Happyliving, please please get your implant removed. You have pus-filled blisters by the sounds of it and I really don't think that your implant can be saved when the infection has progressed to this stage. Trust both surgeons and get it taken out before it eats up your nose, because that's what the infection does.

I too had an infection and had pus-filled blisters and took heavy-duty antibiotics and all, but nothing worked. Now I've got a scar on my bridge and another scar at the tip of my nose. The worst bit is, the tip has collapsed and according to the doctor who did my fillers, the skin there is as hard as rubber.

If you remove your implant now, you can get another one put in later, or you could opt for something less foreign, like ear/rib cartilage surgery. But if you don't remove your implant soon, you may not even get to do that.

I really, really hope the infections clear up soon. Sending good wishes your way.

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Post by DARAN » Sun, 20 Apr 2008 4:38 pm

you must have implant removed, don't be afriad .
you can do anew one.if you don't do ,you wiil not have goog result in next time.:(

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Post by happyliving » Sun, 20 Apr 2008 5:36 pm

danita wrote:
happyliving wrote:Hi All,
As some may be aware, I already had few rounds of infection since my PS in last year Dec. I have just started a new job and can't afford to have any leave nor mc. I had emailed to Dr Nara and the nurse had called asking me to go back asap saying my nose would deformed if don't remove the implant. I had also emailed to Dr Pat and he also ask me to remove asap if not I would lose my nose like michael jackson. I had spent alots of money since then. Now I'm taking expensive antibiotics that cost $9 each. My nose is having the worst infection among all. Red and swollen with pus coming out till my new colleague had asked what happened to my nose bridge. Super depressed.....
I know I have to remove it but after that how do I face my colleague in office. I would return to office with a flat nose. Both Dr Nara and Dr Pat replied that they can't do another implant for me straight away. Must wait for the infection to heal first.
Hence, I'm giving local PS a try hoping to have some good news. I'm praying very hard now.
Happyliving, please please get your implant removed. You have pus-filled blisters by the sounds of it and I really don't think that your implant can be saved when the infection has progressed to this stage. Trust both surgeons and get it taken out before it eats up your nose, because that's what the infection does.

I too had an infection and had pus-filled blisters and took heavy-duty antibiotics and all, but nothing worked. Now I've got a scar on my bridge and another scar at the tip of my nose. The worst bit is, the tip has collapsed and according to the doctor who did my fillers, the skin there is as hard as rubber.

If you remove your implant now, you can get another one put in later, or you could opt for something less foreign, like ear/rib cartilage surgery. But if you don't remove your implant soon, you may not even get to do that.

I really, really hope the infections clear up soon. Sending good wishes your way.
Hi Danita,
My nose today is totally OK. Deswell and no more pus. Is this a good sign? Must I really remove it? Anyway, I'm seeing a specialist early next week. I'm still praying hard.....

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Post by sampam » Sun, 20 Apr 2008 6:23 pm

happyliving:

You could pray all you want but theres a cause and reason here and which one is at work is hard to say:

One possibility is that the area was infected from the beggining and your recurrent infections which just the same thing repeating itself. Thats the nature of bacterial/fungal infections. They can go out but to do so it has to be treated extremely otherwise it will keep coming back and they same antibiotics will work less and less well with it.
If you have had previous infections and gotten antibiotics what were you prescribed?

And now simply saying its $9 means nothing but if i remember correctly you said it was CLARITHROMYCIN ?? Which if true and that was you then the next question would be at what dosage and for how long? and just so your aware there are many more much stronger antibiotics.




Another possibility here is that your body is rejecting your silicone implant and all those infections etc are simply caused as a result of that rejection and the ONLY WAY TO CURE THIS is to remove the implant.


Another possibility is the implant was just too much for your nose ie it was pushing too much too much pressure against your nasal skin bones etc etc allowing for infections which also means removal of implant.



Have the specialist look at it but DO NOT TAKE RISKS!!!!! You can always get another implant. You can always augment it with cartiledge from the inside of your nose or ears etc and from bone too but you cant get another nose! if the infection gets severe you will ruin your nose permanently! You have had recurring infections and that alone would have told you SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT let alone pus coming all out etc

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Post by aadvark » Sun, 20 Apr 2008 7:49 pm

sampam wrote:happyliving:

You could pray all you want but theres a cause and reason here and which one is at work is hard to say:

One possibility is that the area was infected from the beggining and your recurrent infections which just the same thing repeating itself. Thats the nature of bacterial/fungal infections. They can go out but to do so it has to be treated extremely otherwise it will keep coming back and they same antibiotics will work less and less well with it.
If you have had previous infections and gotten antibiotics what were you prescribed?

And now simply saying its $9 means nothing but if i remember correctly you said it was CLARITHROMYCIN ?? Which if true and that was you then the next question would be at what dosage and for how long? and just so your aware there are many more much stronger antibiotics.




Another possibility here is that your body is rejecting your silicone implant and all those infections etc are simply caused as a result of that rejection and the ONLY WAY TO CURE THIS is to remove the implant.


Another possibility is the implant was just too much for your nose ie it was pushing too much too much pressure against your nasal skin bones etc etc allowing for infections which also means removal of implant.



Have the specialist look at it but DO NOT TAKE RISKS!!!!! You can always get another implant. You can always augment it with cartiledge from the inside of your nose or ears etc and from bone too but you cant get another nose! if the infection gets severe you will ruin your nose permanently! You have had recurring infections and that alone would have told you SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT let alone pus coming all out etc
totally agree, why risk your nose for the opinions of your colleagues?
Let's not talk aesthetics for a while, let's talk economics.
if u dun remove it soon, it may cost you much more than replacing this implant in the long run, or worse, it may be beyond the salvation of even the top surgeons.
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Post by snowss » Sun, 20 Apr 2008 8:05 pm

happyliving wrote:Hi All,
As some may be aware, I already had few rounds of infection since my PS in last year Dec. I have just started a new job and can't afford to have any leave nor mc. I had emailed to Dr Nara and the nurse had called asking me to go back asap saying my nose would deformed if don't remove the implant. I had also emailed to Dr Pat and he also ask me to remove asap if not I would lose my nose like michael jackson. I had spent alots of money since then. Now I'm taking expensive antibiotics that cost $9 each. My nose is having the worst infection among all. Red and swollen with pus coming out till my new colleague had asked what happened to my nose bridge. Super depressed.....
I know I have to remove it but after that how do I face my colleague in office. I would return to office with a flat nose. Both Dr Nara and Dr Pat replied that they can't do another implant for me straight away. Must wait for the infection to heal first.
Hence, I'm giving local PS a try hoping to have some good news. I'm praying very hard now.

[Aadvark: Is pineapple juice really good? I have been drowning myself those few days with it and more pus kept coming out but I also hack care liao. Anyway, I still continue drinking it. Hope it would kill the infection. Thanks anyway]
OMG...ur nose is still infected? Better remove ur implant soon...

U had ur PS in dec...and it's 4 mths alrdy, i guess ur body is rejecting the silicon implant...
I had mine done in mid Feb and by the 5th day, the swelling have totally subsided...

Really hope to hear gd news from u in the future as regards to ur nose implant :)
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Post by rosegarden » Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:23 am

adonz wrote:i did face/ chin lipo, buccal fat removal and arm lipo at tokai during end feb.

til now, my face is still very chubby and my frens commented that they don't see any difference. my arms have only gone down by slightly less than an inch, so not too visible difference as well. i'm actually quite disappointed with the results.

i've also weighed myself, my weight from then til now is still the same.

i've emailed to dr pat abt it but he had suggested that i do chin implant to make my face look longer cos my face is wide. but i was looking at the old photos before i put on weight, my chin was very defined then even though i had a wide face. so i find that chin implant might not be neccessary. now my chin is still 'lost' inside my face which means i look like a round moon with no chin.. one side of my face is also bigger than the other side.

i've signed up for lymphatic massage and hopefully that might help to make my face n arms go down..
Hi adonz, i'm sorry to hear that the buccal fat removal and cheek lipo did not work for you. :( I'm actually interested in doing the same procedures as u did but after hearing yr feedback, i think i really need to reconsider. But aadvark commented he's quite satisfied with the fat removal & cheek lipo. Any others who did buccal fat removal & cheek lipo with Dr Pat? Need to hear more feedbacks. Thanz!

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Post by sampam » Mon, 21 Apr 2008 7:47 am

rosegarden and adonz:

You also need to take into account substantial swelling and edema in the area too. Hence results may not be showable in only 1 week or even 1 month. But by about the 2-3month you should be able to see the changes.

And ofcourse it also depends on how much you are removing and how fat it was.


Alot of you guys and gals that go for lipo etc in small areas such as chin, buccal fat, outlining jaw etc could try LIPODISSOLVE injections as an alternative.

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Post by aadvark » Mon, 21 Apr 2008 9:25 am

sampam wrote:rosegarden and adonz:

You also need to take into account substantial swelling and edema in the area too. Hence results may not be showable in only 1 week or even 1 month. But by about the 2-3month you should be able to see the changes.

And ofcourse it also depends on how much you are removing and how fat it was.


Alot of you guys and gals that go for lipo etc in small areas such as chin, buccal fat, outlining jaw etc could try LIPODISSOLVE injections as an alternative.
yeah, it's $450 for 3 sessions at TLC@Orchard for cheek lipodissolve. But the forumer who did it says she is swelling more than when she went for cheek lipo, is that the norm?
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Post by maggieee » Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:29 am

it's not really standard $450 for 3 sessions, the doc will examine first to see how many vials is needed and also how many areas the patient wants to be injected. the swelling is worse on the next day, but subsequently it will deswell in around a week, the fat/oil glands will dissolve through the stools. usually 3 sessions is the max for lipo dissolve, and u can see a more drastic change after the 2nd session, in between each session would have to wait for about 4 weeks before the next injection to allow it to dissolve completely

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Post by sampam » Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:43 am

aadvark and maggieeee


To start with you dont even need to go to a doctor since you can easily do it yourself and it would be much cheaper.


There is no set protocol or any documented studies that states waiting 1 month between treatments. Infact some places suggest 2nd treatment 2 weeks later and each subsequent treatment only 1 week later.

Again there is nothing to suggest you will only need 2 or 3 treatments and any doctor that says so is talking out of his her backside!

You can only roughly gauge but each person will respond differently and many other things factor in too such as diet, training, lifestyle etc

Again swelling is a personal thing. Some will swell more than others and some have minimal swelling. Also depends on what mixtures they have used to inject you with which can also lessen the swelling and pain but generally it will be a bit swollen and later become harder(means its working).

If you bought the whole medical grade kit yourself it would only cost you around 185 and thats 5 treatments worth right there. 5 sessions would make a substantial difference. But 10sessions is better just depends though on the area how much fat/sculpting you want done and how much can be done and how your body responds.

Besides when starting you dont really want to exceed 10ml-15ml mixture injection in an area. Then your body may adjust and later you can do more.

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Post by aadvark » Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:02 am

sampam wrote:aadvark and maggieeee


To start with you dont even need to go to a doctor since you can easily do it yourself and it would be much cheaper.


There is no set protocol or any documented studies that states waiting 1 month between treatments. Infact some places suggest 2nd treatment 2 weeks later and each subsequent treatment only 1 week later.

Again there is nothing to suggest you will only need 2 or 3 treatments and any doctor that says so is talking out of his her backside!

You can only roughly gauge but each person will respond differently and many other things factor in too such as diet, training, lifestyle etc

Again swelling is a personal thing. Some will swell more than others and some have minimal swelling. Also depends on what mixtures they have used to inject you with which can also lessen the swelling and pain but generally it will be a bit swollen and later become harder(means its working).

If you bought the whole medical grade kit yourself it would only cost you around 185 and thats 5 treatments worth right there. 5 sessions would make a substantial difference. But 10sessions is better just depends though on the area how much fat/sculpting you want done and how much can be done and how your body responds.

Besides when starting you dont really want to exceed 10ml-15ml mixture injection in an area. Then your body may adjust and later you can do more.
wow, is that 185 SGD or USD? and where can we get it?
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Post by sampam » Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:16 pm

aadvark

thats usd and the full proper medical mixture kit

for more info pm me


did you try those kenalog/corticosteroid injections for your jaws yet?

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Post by astrogirl » Mon, 21 Apr 2008 4:51 pm

sampam wrote:aadvark and maggieeee


To start with you dont even need to go to a doctor since you can easily do it yourself and it would be much cheaper.


There is no set protocol or any documented studies that states waiting 1 month between treatments. Infact some places suggest 2nd treatment 2 weeks later and each subsequent treatment only 1 week later.

Again there is nothing to suggest you will only need 2 or 3 treatments and any doctor that says so is talking out of his her backside!

You can only roughly gauge but each person will respond differently and many other things factor in too such as diet, training, lifestyle etc

Again swelling is a personal thing. Some will swell more than others and some have minimal swelling. Also depends on what mixtures they have used to inject you with which can also lessen the swelling and pain but generally it will be a bit swollen and later become harder(means its working).

If you bought the whole medical grade kit yourself it would only cost you around 185 and thats 5 treatments worth right there. 5 sessions would make a substantial difference. But 10sessions is better just depends though on the area how much fat/sculpting you want done and how much can be done and how your body responds.

Besides when starting you dont really want to exceed 10ml-15ml mixture injection in an area. Then your body may adjust and later you can do more.
Do you mean we buy the kit and do the injection ourselves without a dr? Do you mean it comes wth a manual to tell us where to inject and then we sculpt the area ourselves and keep a journal to moniter the progress?
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