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Postby boii18 » Fri, 21 Mar 2008 4:22 pm

at departure hall now. tmrw will be my bkk surgery :)
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Postby boii18 » Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:21 pm

I am currently at the "residence hotel". tmrw will be going for the surgery :)
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Postby aadvark » Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:09 am

where are u staying? is it convenient? :D
i watched 2 movies at the Central World mall.

Very comfy seats and huge screen, but have to stand up for like 2 min before every movie starts as a tribute to the King :D
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Postby yunli » Sat, 22 Mar 2008 3:24 am

hahaha, i remember the standing up part too! but its worth it isnt it? =)

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Postby mbk » Sat, 22 Mar 2008 7:05 am

[quote="boii18"]at departure hall now. tmrw will be my bkk surgery :)


Good luck with the surgery! Report us with egverything. Hoope everything goes well! :)

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Postby yunli » Sat, 22 Mar 2008 2:57 pm

aadvark wrote:
ats_syd wrote:Hi aadvark,

I understand that you did double eyelids with Nara and took about 2 months to "look normal" . Did you mean the crease started to look "natural" ? Do you mind to share your experience of recovery?

I had my eyelids done 2 weeks ago, incision and suture method - swelling and bruising has gone, but the crease still looks really fake and high up, friends told me I now look like those middle-aged "aunty" who has her double eyelids done. So depress now:(


when i meant "look normal", i just meant no more swelling and bruising. like you, my crease was super thick and high, everyone also say very fake... i think it took me almost 6 mths b4 ppl started to think it looks natural, but even then, to me, it was still quite high

now more than a yr later, it's very natural and reasonable size, not fake at all :D think eyelids take a while, look at pan lingling's husband - huang shinan; when he first did, also damn fake and obvious, but now a few years le, look natural and nice le


for double eyelids:

does dr nara say how many mm cut he's going to do?

i dont want a cut thats too far away..cause eyes very small, cant carry it off.

im also going for rhinoplasty together with double eyelids..

im probably going with a bus and staying 3d2n, so just want to double check if there's any threads i need to remove that need me to stay longer?

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Postby boii18 » Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:26 pm

Hey all just to update!! XD Luckily everything went very very well. I fasted from 12 midnight to my surgery the next day at 10 am. At 10 am I promptly arrived at Tokai clinic. First impression was good. even though it was surrounded by afew old stores and shops ( though, its possibly new by bkk standard! ) the clinic itself is white and very very clean. The nurses are also very polite and friendly. Filled in my patient information form and waited to see doc. At 10.30 am promptly i went to see doc. While waiting i saw a thai who going in to do smething, and a black american girl ( unsure what country tho ) who consult with dr pat cos i think she just completed her procedure. at 10.30 am i met dr pat. firstly was abit shock! becos he does look different from the photo a little bit, maybe aging. he is dressed in doctor gown and very professional, have a brand new very fast compaq presario laptop. i sat down to explain to him my concerns. he was very nice, and even ran for me digital imaging to see how my profile view would look like ( i am very concerned abt profile view becos front view was quite straightforward ). and my oh my! i was delighted by the changes.. they were so subtle but they seem to make me look so good than before.

basically what i would have done is
- the reduction of my alar width, as well as bringing in my alar upwards and inwards.
- the increase of my nose bridge with silcione implant, it also increase my tip a little bit
- tip-plasty
- i wil not be have osteotomy ((bone breaking) because it is not necessary
- my coulemella will be shifted slightly upwards
- my nose will have the slight aesthetic convex shape because that is what i desire,but doc say not much difference
- his editing software something lyk photoshop, but much more precise and nice ( becos his skill i guess. its same as photoshop liquify, but dr. is very precise in his adjustments )

Then i was sent to do a mouth wash, and wash. abit hard to talk to nurse cos they dont speak very good english, but they are very nice. i bought food for all of them and they happy. haha. anyways, they are really pretty!

after doing my cleaning, i was sent to the 3rd floor, think its surgery center. the 2nd floor is holding bay . the operating theatre i went to was very very well equipped. it has pulse oximetry, constant BP measure, and alot of medical equipment. it does look very sterile. the light is very bright, and there is ample space. i believe that if anything were to go wrong there ( like with anesthesia), the doctor can do quite alot to prevent the other systemic condition from getting worse cos its soooo equipped.

the operating team was a staff nurse ( and anesthesiologist also?), as well as arnd 5 other nurses. i had a intravenous put into my right hand, and it was a sedative. i was to be put under local anesthesia with sedation.

i was kinda worried cos for some time i was feeling very wide awake! not sedated at all. around 30 mins into the sedation, i start to feel groggy, and slipped into semi-consciousness. was also quite exhausted by then. then they started to apply things to my nose to make it numb. and tape my eyes shut. the rest is a blur. i closed my eyes didnt want to see. i can feel my nose being tugged and pulled at etc. then around an hour or so ( time does fly when u're under anesthesia! ) , i start to be more awake. kinda nervous, cos i can feel the tug and pull at my nose ( though no pain at all! surprise! cos i've done other procedure before, and its not as comfortable as this. ) . i can feel the stitching process. i ask doc, where are we at now. he say he done the tip and rhino. almost done. left alar. i start to fear becos now not sedated as much ( in fact, my heartbeat is quite fast!! can hear from the oximetry beeps ), but later 3 injections or so to my alar area. and the alar is numb. then they start to cut, and stitch, excise tissue, etc. ( though i didnt know what they doing cos it was so numb!! ).

Finally, my surgery is complete at 2.15 pm. i was sent to the holding bay. i was wide awake by now. no feeling of nausea or vomitting, alittle bit giddy, but certainly even more awake than after taking flu/cough medication!! dr pat's anesthesiologist is very experienced! i can see my nose it has a gauze inside to suck out blood which fall, and can see the alar excisions. i had a nose cast ( put in the last 10 min of operation ). then becos i got bored ( no nurse to attend to me after awhile ), i start to fall aslp. then a 2nd nurse attend to me, and put ice pack on my head ( even tho no fever and no pain... ) but i just put... then it drop after awhile... ( cos i turn lol. ) then i told the 3rd nurse. that it drop. quite hard to tell her tho cos communication barrier. yup. so she took a new ice pack and put on my head.

around 4pm i woke up again. and i feel worse a little. i feel.. a little pain only. nothing serious. so always rmb to put the ice pack i think it helps, ya.

i then went down the see nurse ( dr pat has gone - anyway in the op theathre, he say my op is very good. the nurse also say very good, haha. ) The nurse gave me the medication, 6 types in all. for my sensitive nose, for pain ( 2 types for pain, one more severe and one is sth like panadol), anti-inflammation, antibiotic. oh i remember. before i leave op theatre at aroudn 2.10 pm dr pat administered antibiotic shot for me as well.

then around 4.30pm ( or around there ) i left the clinic with my 2 friends to my hotel.

i had a mild nose bleed. very mild. which kinda worried me a little. but nurse say it will be gone tommorow.

then i went to eat and sleep. i eat rice ( nothing spicy or nothing hot ! ) and then took the medication required. i woke up at 10 pm. ( slept at arnd 7pm? ) , and i feel very good. the mild pain in the nose ( feels like at incision site ) has disappeared, blood has almost dried completely (no more nose bleed). i feel a little feverish, but i guess im not having fever.

very good experience at tokai clinic and strongly recommended. haha, dr. remembers those who went to tokai recently. i asked about aadvark who did buccal fat. he ask me about Mr. woo? or mr.voo?? going to do surgery in april.

oh, no problems paying singapore dollar, and deposition of belonging is very safe ( i deposited my wallet, and everything ) with the nurse after fill in the deposition form. :)

i forgot to mention that at 4pm when i woke again at the clinic i remove the syringe which is attached to my right hand. apprently the syringe is some very strong pain killer and anesthestic to be administered by nurse in case of pain. but since i had no pain, they took out the syringe, unused .

oh, theere is also another doc ( female ). i think anesthesia or staff nurse. she also advised me. maybe they doing shiftwork, not sure. think tokai is 24 hours since they have holding area and night stays.

oh. from the time i woke,i can breathe from mynose. no problemo! :) but i prefer to breathe mouth most of time. cos scared nose bleed or stress the nose. after op abit dry throat and mouth, but after drink water its ok ;)
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Postby yunli » Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:49 am

boi! congrats!!! so happy for you that it went well=)

do take care of yourself there!

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Postby suuz » Sun, 23 Mar 2008 2:45 am

what did you pay for the whole treatment?

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Postby aadvark » Sun, 23 Mar 2008 5:41 am

boii18 wrote:Hey all just to update!! XD Luckily everything went very very well. I fasted from 12 midnight to my surgery the next day at 10 am. At 10 am I promptly arrived at Tokai clinic. First impression was good. even though it was surrounded by afew old stores and shops ( though, its possibly new by bkk standard! ) the clinic itself is white and very very clean. The nurses are also very polite and friendly. Filled in my patient information form and waited to see doc. At 10.30 am promptly i went to see doc. While waiting i saw a thai who going in to do smething, and a black american girl ( unsure what country tho ) who consult with dr pat cos i think she just completed her procedure. at 10.30 am i met dr pat. firstly was abit shock! becos he does look different from the photo a little bit, maybe aging. he is dressed in doctor gown and very professional, have a brand new very fast compaq presario laptop. i sat down to explain to him my concerns. he was very nice, and even ran for me digital imaging to see how my profile view would look like ( i am very concerned abt profile view becos front view was quite straightforward ). and my oh my! i was delighted by the changes.. they were so subtle but they seem to make me look so good than before.

basically what i would have done is
- the reduction of my alar width, as well as bringing in my alar upwards and inwards.
- the increase of my nose bridge with silcione implant, it also increase my tip a little bit
- tip-plasty
- i wil not be have osteotomy ((bone breaking) because it is not necessary
- my coulemella will be shifted slightly upwards
- my nose will have the slight aesthetic convex shape because that is what i desire,but doc say not much difference
- his editing software something lyk photoshop, but much more precise and nice ( becos his skill i guess. its same as photoshop liquify, but dr. is very precise in his adjustments )

Then i was sent to do a mouth wash, and wash. abit hard to talk to nurse cos they dont speak very good english, but they are very nice. i bought food for all of them and they happy. haha. anyways, they are really pretty!

after doing my cleaning, i was sent to the 3rd floor, think its surgery center. the 2nd floor is holding bay . the operating theatre i went to was very very well equipped. it has pulse oximetry, constant BP measure, and alot of medical equipment. it does look very sterile. the light is very bright, and there is ample space. i believe that if anything were to go wrong there ( like with anesthesia), the doctor can do quite alot to prevent the other systemic condition from getting worse cos its soooo equipped.

the operating team was a staff nurse ( and anesthesiologist also?), as well as arnd 5 other nurses. i had a intravenous put into my right hand, and it was a sedative. i was to be put under local anesthesia with sedation.

i was kinda worried cos for some time i was feeling very wide awake! not sedated at all. around 30 mins into the sedation, i start to feel groggy, and slipped into semi-consciousness. was also quite exhausted by then. then they started to apply things to my nose to make it numb. and tape my eyes shut. the rest is a blur. i closed my eyes didnt want to see. i can feel my nose being tugged and pulled at etc. then around an hour or so ( time does fly when u're under anesthesia! ) , i start to be more awake. kinda nervous, cos i can feel the tug and pull at my nose ( though no pain at all! surprise! cos i've done other procedure before, and its not as comfortable as this. ) . i can feel the stitching process. i ask doc, where are we at now. he say he done the tip and rhino. almost done. left alar. i start to fear becos now not sedated as much ( in fact, my heartbeat is quite fast!! can hear from the oximetry beeps ), but later 3 injections or so to my alar area. and the alar is numb. then they start to cut, and stitch, excise tissue, etc. ( though i didnt know what they doing cos it was so numb!! ).

Finally, my surgery is complete at 2.15 pm. i was sent to the holding bay. i was wide awake by now. no feeling of nausea or vomitting, alittle bit giddy, but certainly even more awake than after taking flu/cough medication!! dr pat's anesthesiologist is very experienced! i can see my nose it has a gauze inside to suck out blood which fall, and can see the alar excisions. i had a nose cast ( put in the last 10 min of operation ). then becos i got bored ( no nurse to attend to me after awhile ), i start to fall aslp. then a 2nd nurse attend to me, and put ice pack on my head ( even tho no fever and no pain... ) but i just put... then it drop after awhile... ( cos i turn lol. ) then i told the 3rd nurse. that it drop. quite hard to tell her tho cos communication barrier. yup. so she took a new ice pack and put on my head.

around 4pm i woke up again. and i feel worse a little. i feel.. a little pain only. nothing serious. so always rmb to put the ice pack i think it helps, ya.

i then went down the see nurse ( dr pat has gone - anyway in the op theathre, he say my op is very good. the nurse also say very good, haha. ) The nurse gave me the medication, 6 types in all. for my sensitive nose, for pain ( 2 types for pain, one more severe and one is sth like panadol), anti-inflammation, antibiotic. oh i remember. before i leave op theatre at aroudn 2.10 pm dr pat administered antibiotic shot for me as well.

then around 4.30pm ( or around there ) i left the clinic with my 2 friends to my hotel.

i had a mild nose bleed. very mild. which kinda worried me a little. but nurse say it will be gone tommorow.

then i went to eat and sleep. i eat rice ( nothing spicy or nothing hot ! ) and then took the medication required. i woke up at 10 pm. ( slept at arnd 7pm? ) , and i feel very good. the mild pain in the nose ( feels like at incision site ) has disappeared, blood has almost dried completely (no more nose bleed). i feel a little feverish, but i guess im not having fever.

very good experience at tokai clinic and strongly recommended. haha, dr. remembers those who went to tokai recently. i asked about aadvark who did buccal fat. he ask me about Mr. woo? or mr.voo?? going to do surgery in april.

oh, no problems paying singapore dollar, and deposition of belonging is very safe ( i deposited my wallet, and everything ) with the nurse after fill in the deposition form. :)

i forgot to mention that at 4pm when i woke again at the clinic i remove the syringe which is attached to my right hand. apprently the syringe is some very strong pain killer and anesthestic to be administered by nurse in case of pain. but since i had no pain, they took out the syringe, unused .

oh, theere is also another doc ( female ). i think anesthesia or staff nurse. she also advised me. maybe they doing shiftwork, not sure. think tokai is 24 hours since they have holding area and night stays.

oh. from the time i woke,i can breathe from mynose. no problemo! :) but i prefer to breathe mouth most of time. cos scared nose bleed or stress the nose. after op abit dry throat and mouth, but after drink water its ok ;)


cool, nice to know someone had a good experience there :D

so far, i didn't really wanna describe my experience as good or bad, because i'm one of the first guinea pigs there at Tokai from the forum, and i feel that i have very low expectations (as long as it's cheap and clean, it could be the size of a closet and only one surgery knife for all i care)... so what i may consider good may be considered bad to someone else :P

i hope your nose turns out beautiful :D
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Postby boii18 » Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:01 am

Mbk : thanks for the well-wishes  I’ll update you guys.

Yunli : thanks. I will xD I feel sooo great!

Suuz : I think I better keep it a secret! I did it at a very discounted price. You have to bargain with the Dr. My nose is not a severe case therefore he charge cheaper, and cos my age too I guess. Hhaa.

No, aardvark, I don’t think I would want to watch a movie! I will however be walking about the market with my friends to buy cheap clothings. My hotels near platinum mall, prantip plaza, etc. yeah wish you all the best. Dr. remembers you. Haha. Yeah I do hope its beautiful, and I think I know it should look at least ok! Dr and staff very experienced. Tho, of course, you know in Singapore, they SEEM experienced but end up poor result. Hope this not the case, because I have saw dr’s before-after pics, very nice.


And update on day TWO of my rhino, alar and tip!!

Yes indeed I hope it does turn out ok, or good. I just asking for something better, not
perfection. I’m very satisfied with the painless procedure. Goodness! Its not as painful as Restylane non-surgical chin augmentation and injection of botox for square jaw!

Its day two now. I took a very strong painkiller at night according to doc’s instruction. Woke up feeling very very good , very energetic, and very clear. I slept from 1am until 6 am. Anyways, after breakfast ( free breakfast ), I felt kinda “groggy”
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Postby adonz » Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:19 am

taxi is expensive in bkk??? first time i heard leh...

boii18 u were saying ur hotel is near the wholesale ctr n shopping areas.. wic wholesale ctr? hee.. i wanna go chk it out later cos i'm staying in bkk now. din knw got wholesale ctr n shopping ctrs near tokai. i only knw wholesale ctr pratunam n platinum wic is quite a distance from tokai... oh man new places for me to shop.. yippee!

btw ppl yday i went to pruksa clinic at rama iv for ipl treatment... cheap n good! about half the price compared to tat in sg... tis clinic is recommended by my thai colleague. she also recommended romrawin clinic. they do smartlipo too. n for tummy it's 45k baht only! i paid 40k baht for arm lipo at tokai n my arms r still chunky n fat now... :(

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Postby mbk » Sun, 23 Mar 2008 2:58 pm

Hi Boi, good to see you are okay!

You still have cast on? You should take care and stay indoors for proper healing as bangkok is so polluted. Be careful of infection. do people stare at u when you are out?

The taxius are cheap but they cheat like crazy!! Make sure they runtghe METER! Also I found the BTS really good.......fast and cheap.

I want to have surgery soon!

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Postby suuz » Sun, 23 Mar 2008 5:06 pm

In BKK i take the bus...if you know how they operate it is the cheapest way. For longer distances like going to the weekend market i take bus + the skytrain.

Bus only like 7 baht per drive...Get a blue busmap and you are the king. It is 25 baht for the aircon busses, there is an airport bus aswell it costs 150 baht and takes you to several dropoff places in the city, you just go straight to the front when you get out of the airport as the bus is there at the front, before the taxyboots. You explain there were you wanna go and they will inform you if the dropoff is any handy.

From the airport you can also take the local bus. Take the shuttlebus (it is free) to the busstation, just wave one down you will be between local, takes a few minutes. There you can take bus 551 to victory Monument (35 to 50 baht), every half hour- takes 1 hour to get there, from there i take local bus to Democracy monument (Banglampu) (6 baht as it is the small green wooden bus)

Boiii please can you then tell me if i should bargain hard on the prices quoted? I just wanna know because there are proces vary from 400 to 800 usdollar on their site. Just please give me some direction, i won't slam them with deals they made in the past, just to know bargainwise.

(my sister always says that the streetstuff like on the weekendmarket or on Thanon Kao San to bargain like 90% but from experience i know that when you get 60% off you are very lucky and if you get 40% off that is the standard rate - well for clothes) BTW i have also bargained inside the departmentstores and sometimes get a discount, just ask en beg.

maybe the area you stayed was near SIAM square? It is great there the MBK departmentstore bought VANS sneakers there for 900 baht , here they are 4 times as expensive.
BTW there is a postoffice on the airport that is open 24/7 you can send parcels there if your luggage become too far overweight, for the same price as town postoffice prices.

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Postby suuz » Sun, 23 Mar 2008 5:11 pm

adonz wrote:btw ppl yday i went to pruksa clinic at rama iv for ipl treatment... cheap n good! about half the price compared to tat in sg... tis clinic is recommended by my thai colleague. she also recommended romrawin clinic. they do smartlipo too. n for tummy it's 45k baht only! i paid 40k baht for arm lipo at tokai n my arms r still chunky n fat now... :(


Anybody doing the smartlipo please insist that the fat is sucked out as otherwise the body still has to get rid of the fat and that can only happen on a total fatfree diet and low calory...and thus most times the fat is reabsorbed!
especially with tummy (as there is too much fat for the body to resolve on its own - reabsorbtion is very likly) please pay a little more and get the fat sucked out

OHH and instead off IPL there is LHE (Light Heat Extraction ) a better way of getting rid of hair.


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