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White Noise generator needed before I go nuts!!!!

Postby stevemac » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 5:40 pm

Hi I have recently moved into a new apartment on Holland Rd and the noise from the traffic is keeping me awake everynight......it never bloody stops!, I feel like I'm sleeping on the road. Someone has suggested a white noise generator.....does anyone know where I can get one from and better still do they know if they work? Its either that I sleep with a motorcycle helmet on or climb into the closet Any help would be much appreciated.

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Postby Plavt » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 7:14 pm

Steve,
I sympathize with you but you really don't need a white noise generator. First option: simple earplugs will help and you can get some good ones from the Gaurdian pharmacist (if I remember rightly around the City Hall area) which are better quality than those made in the UK.

On the other hand you can buy 'white noise' CD's - I have one with nothing more than the sound of falling rain along with some computer software that has a variety of sounds.

Here's a few links;

http://www.yourfavouriteshop.com/white-noise/white-noise-cds/white-noise-single-cds/white-noise-single-cds.htm


http://cdbaby.com/places/9FL0?cat=17&subcat=242

http://www.relaxingsoftware.com/tinmaskerhome.htm

Restful Rain is the CD I have - very effective.

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Postby Wind In My Hair » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:02 pm

Have you considered thick drapes, the really heavy velvety kind? Or rugs and fabric wall hangings... anything to prevent the noise bouncing off bare walls and floors and sounding louder than it needs to.

Or just give it time. I have friends who live right next to the railway track. After a while they just got used to it and never even noticed when a train went past, though it made me jump when I first heard it.

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Postby Plavt » Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:11 pm

Wind In My Hair wrote:Have you considered thick drapes, the really heavy velvety kind? Or rugs and fabric wall hangings... anything to prevent the noise bouncing off bare walls and floors and sounding louder than it needs to.



I think you may find such measures tend to keep sound in rather than out.

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Postby jpatokal » Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:49 am

Plavt wrote:
Wind In My Hair wrote:Have you considered thick drapes, the really heavy velvety kind? Or rugs and fabric wall hangings... anything to prevent the noise bouncing off bare walls and floors and sounding louder than it needs to.



I think you may find such measures tend to keep sound in rather than out.

And how does that work? :???:

Give it some time, you'll get used to it. I lived directly next to an MRT line and within days I stopped noticing the trains.
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Postby Plavt » Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:54 am

jpatokal wrote:And how does that work? :???:



Just information from a sound insulation company I am hardly a sound engineer and wouldn't want to be. :tongue:

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Postby ksl » Tue, 03 Jul 2007 1:32 am

Plavt wrote:
jpatokal wrote:And how does that work? :???:



Just information from a sound insulation company I am hardly a sound engineer and wouldn't want to be. :tongue:



Well sound waves may resonate depending on the oscillation, frequency and speed it is sent, High medium and shortwave frequencies are basically a waves, if you picture yourself throwing a stone into water, you will see the wave result, if you place an object in the waves direct path, depending what it is made of, will depend how much of the wave can penetrate the object, cloth like cutains, some waves will go through and echo back off other none absorbing objects in the room, the wave becoming weaker may or may not get through the material again, but will continue to bounce around the room.

You can also think of the ionisphere and radio waves, this will explain better than i can, but you can only penetrate the ionisphere at certain times of the day,, you can actually work out the exact distance you want to send the sound wave around the world!

Years ago when i was in the dessert, I was reliant on the fundementals of sound waves, when transmitting across the world using HF radios!
radio propagation and antenna theory, gives a very good undertsanding of sound waves.

Although my ears are now -----------blown, with bombs, helicopters and guns, that i've lost all mid range sound, and am left with regular tinnitus, of which i need white noise to stop me from screaming on many occasions!
Actually i believe egg boxes can be used to trap most of the noise, :wink: :roll:(joking of course in your case) Although JP is correct to say you will soon adapt to it! and hear only the things you want to hear! its called filtering, only things your brain identifies as relevant noise will be heard.

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Postby Bafana » Tue, 03 Jul 2007 9:40 am

Get an old style fan (antique even better as got class as well).

I have a similiar problem but on the opposite end sicne my ears have been damaged over the years and I get a ringing noise if things are too quite so I always like a low frequency noise when I go to sleep. Funny enough when I go back to the farm in Aussie and it is really quite the whistling don't seem to bother as i suppose i am more relaxed.
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Postby perplex_sheep » Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:28 am

Just a thought... have you consider lodging a complaint to the town council nearby? I might be wrong, but there are usually some guidelines for works at night. Here are some guidelines, which i am not sure if it is useful for you...

http://app.nea.gov.sg/cms/htdocs/catego ... asp?cid=35

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Postby jpatokal » Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:45 pm

ksl wrote:Well sound waves may resonate depending on the oscillation, frequency and speed it is sent, High medium and shortwave frequencies are basically a waves, if you picture yourself throwing a stone into water, you will see the wave result, if you place an object in the waves direct path, depending what it is made of, will depend how much of the wave can penetrate the object, cloth like cutains, some waves will go through and echo back off other none absorbing objects in the room, the wave becoming weaker may or may not get through the material again, but will continue to bounce around the room.

All this is elementary, my dear Watson, but why should it matter if the wave is coming from the left (inside your room) or the right (outside it)?
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Postby ksl » Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:04 am

jpatokal wrote:
ksl wrote:Well sound waves may resonate depending on the oscillation, frequency and speed it is sent, High medium and shortwave frequencies are basically a waves, if you picture yourself throwing a stone into water, you will see the wave result, if you place an object in the waves direct path, depending what it is made of, will depend how much of the wave can penetrate the object, cloth like cutains, some waves will go through and echo back off other none absorbing objects in the room, the wave becoming weaker may or may not get through the material again, but will continue to bounce around the room.

All this is elementary, my dear Watson, but why should it matter if the wave is coming from the left (inside your room) or the right (outside it)?


Personally i don't believe that it does matter, to the likes of most people, the actual theory , is just that, theory!.

Some hi-fi specialists swear there is a difference in sound you can hear, through different thicknesses of cable, of course you can measure the difference, electronically, but i doubt very much, that 9 out of 10 people or even 5 out of 10 could hear this difference.

While on the subject of waves, I purchased a HDMI adapter for the LCD, of which the salesman insisted, the 300$ was better, so I asked him to prove it to me, he couldn't was his answer, So I purchased the 25$ one, and that was probably over priced.

A search on the net, suggested one can get them at 5$ and they work just as good! His main selling point of the expensive one was the 24 carat gold plating, I said if there is over half an ounce of gold, I may consider the deal :)

Not only ears adapt to sound, our eyes adapt to what we look at, that's why some people who believe their 50 inch projector screens are superb, and better than a normal 29" CRT ugh! Who knows maybe they are right, they see something I don't!


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