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An Inconvenient Truth

Postby Bafana » Fri, 15 Jun 2007 9:17 am

Has anyone else watched the the "An Inconvieniant Truth" with Al Gore on the current sate of the environment?

I am not really a greenie but thsi really made me stop and think and was in my opinion food for thought. I do believe it may even change the way I think about life. (could also hgave something to do with having a 6 week year daughter now changing my self centred view of the multiverse as well :cool: )

But seriously the movie toucjhed me and believe it is worthy of STrictly Speaking Thread.

Any opinions?
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Postby Bafana » Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:05 am

So no one interested in the environment?

Am truely suprised with all the bleeding heart lefties on the board :cool:

But seriously no one has anything to say, add???
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 28 Jun 2007 1:31 pm

Interested a lot. But, haven't had the time due to Dengue Fever/My Job to be able to take the time to find and watch the program. Once I do I might have an opinion. :wink:

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Postby Wind In My Hair » Thu, 28 Jun 2007 2:27 pm

I would probably have an opinion if I had the time to watch the film. Don't worry Baf, it's not that we don't love you. :P

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Postby E-T » Thu, 28 Jun 2007 3:49 pm

Haven't bought it... and I'm just being honest. Even without this film, watching Nat Geo and Discovery can be "scary" enough about global warming and such.

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Postby Bafana » Thu, 28 Jun 2007 5:51 pm

It was scarey but also empowering in that it made me think that we can still do something about it to stop it and reverse it on a personal level without drastically changing my lifestyle/habits. It also answered a lot of the he said she said urban myths out there about whether it is real or not.

I always feel that it is more productive to lead people through clear and easy solution with a carrot then my the common environmentla trend of trying to scare people itno action. M ost peopel just shut down and ignore when something threatens their personal safety/sanity especially when it is out of their control.

BTW my company made us watch teh video on International Environmental Day a couple of weeks ago so no choice but to make time lah :cool:
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Postby ksl » Thu, 28 Jun 2007 6:56 pm

Bafana wrote:It was scarey but also empowering in that it made me think that we can still do something about it to stop it and reverse it on a personal level without drastically changing my lifestyle/habits. It also answered a lot of the he said she said urban myths out there about whether it is real or not.

I always feel that it is more productive to lead people through clear and easy solution with a carrot then my the common environmentla trend of trying to scare people itno action. M ost peopel just shut down and ignore when something threatens their personal safety/sanity especially when it is out of their control.

BTW my company made us watch teh video on International Environmental Day a couple of weeks ago so no choice but to make time lah :cool:
Yes it is interesting, and I believe I do my bit most of the time, occassionally my wife will remind me, about the recycling, we have bags at home for all different items, newspapers, plastics, are all sorted, however there is no specific collection points.

The changing environment is quite simple to understand, but we live in a capitalistic world, with growing populations and longer life spans. I believe in euthanasia and the right to have my own say in what happens.

This is not financially exceptable to the health producing capitalistic Countries, who get rich off other peoples suffering!

To keep this brief, I will say the world can look after itself, humans will suffer the backlash of natures way of self preservation , millions will die, in its rage, to balance itself, although I will continue my duty of what i think is right!

We have little influence over government officials, that don't want to listen! Industry is the biggest cause of destruction of the environment and capitalists don't give a damn, they have one track minds! That is longer life, more suffering and more profits! :cry:

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Postby E-T » Fri, 29 Jun 2007 2:46 am

For many year, China and a few other countries were slammed for pollution and depletion of nature reserves. It was the first time this year, that someone actually fought back and mentioned one of the facts, many of these factories tapping natural supplies are foreign own companies.

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Postby huggybear » Fri, 29 Jun 2007 7:12 am

bafana so you're a red blooded capitalist that now is worried about "the next generation?" haha.

as KSL said, everyone only cares about money. been following this for a while now. china became the world's largest polluter i think last month. So officially China says the western countries have been polluting the environment for far longer and thus should take the lead in reducing global emissions (i.e. the US rejected the Kyoto accord so why should anyone give a damn?)

Reality is that China doesn't give a damn about the environment and chinese people are too obsessed in trying to make $ in the stock market. So thus if you go to a city such as Chongqing, you'll be lucky if you can see the sun on a clear day because it is that polluted. Cars drive with a film of dirt on them, and when you arrive ... you first thing it's foggy until you realize...it's not fog but pollution.

there have been stories for tens of years about the depleting environment, over fishing, destroying rain forests, etc... and now you give a crap after watching a relatively unscientific movie?? I guess i should be happy that someone new has been converted to be green....

also the # of days you can see across the hong kong harbor i think is down to below 250 days a year...that's pretty piss poor.

another 10 years of this and there won't be any fish to see when you go diving / snorkeling. water temps are already rising ... where are all the snowboarders going to snowboard? In Dubai in their indoor ski park??

i guess the good part about this is that i can finally climb everest ... in my t-shirt and shorts...

wait is my post longer then KSLs????

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Postby ksl » Mon, 02 Jul 2007 7:25 pm

huggybear wrote:bafana so you're a red blooded capitalist that now is worried about "the next generation?" haha.

as KSL said, everyone only cares about money. been following this for a while now. china became the world's largest polluter i think last month. So officially China says the western countries have been polluting the environment for far longer and thus should take the lead in reducing global emissions (i.e. the US rejected the Kyoto accord so why should anyone give a damn?)

Reality is that China doesn't give a damn about the environment and chinese people are too obsessed in trying to make $ in the stock market. So thus if you go to a city such as Chongqing, you'll be lucky if you can see the sun on a clear day because it is that polluted. Cars drive with a film of dirt on them, and when you arrive ... you first thing it's foggy until you realize...it's not fog but pollution.

there have been stories for tens of years about the depleting environment, over fishing, destroying rain forests, etc... and now you give a crap after watching a relatively unscientific movie?? I guess i should be happy that someone new has been converted to be green....

also the # of days you can see across the hong kong harbor i think is down to below 250 days a year...that's pretty piss poor.

another 10 years of this and there won't be any fish to see when you go diving / snorkeling. water temps are already rising ... where are all the snowboarders going to snowboard? In Dubai in their indoor ski park??

i guess the good part about this is that i can finally climb everest ... in my t-shirt and shorts...

wait is my post longer then KSLs????
Huggybear i guess the good part about this is that i can finally climb everest ... in my t-shirt and shorts...
Yes! Can you imagine Everest becoming a tourist attraction and all the family climbing up! How :oops: it would be, next step would be. to get into the guinness record book for the quickest time.

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Postby Bafana » Tue, 03 Jul 2007 9:37 am

I am a red blooded Aussie but unfortunately as my bank account will prove a failure at capatilism :shock:

BTW the haze is back.

On the issue of China being the biggest polluter the US is still number one I believe and if China has taken over it must only be by a bit - Nether the less the combination of anotehr over polluter will only make the matter worse and it very embarassign the my country (australia) also refused to sign the Kyoto agreement.
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Postby huggybear » Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:54 am

here's an article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/story/0 ... 99,00.html

China became the world's biggest emitter of CO2.


Look...China wants to be considered a global superpower (newest member of UN Security Council). Part of wanting to be a global superpower means taking the initiative on a wide ranging group of topics and trying to do what is best for the world ... not just what is best for the pocketbooks of local politicans... not saying the US doesn't protect its own interests either but at least our local population has more rights and we can vote out the idiots in charge should we desire.

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Postby GordonGekko » Mon, 04 Feb 2008 2:26 am

The most inconvenient truth might be that, yes, we see/experince climate change, but its not created by humans, but rather a natural phenomenon, just like the Ice Age was. :shock:
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