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Post by boii18 » Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:27 am

hello84 wrote:save up money to find a better surgeon... is too late when you already had a scar... infact i dun think thai and malaysia are good in PS... unatural nose bridge, can seen the implant by the tip of your nose.. a white shine spot... aunt look alike double eyelid... nowsaday nobody go and cut those thick eyelid liao le... ignorn me if you think i am talking rubbish...
not true abt thai p.s.

my singapore surgeon agrees that thailand is all along consistently the best in p.s. especially those well established surgeons in thailand

in the past, it was more expensive in thailand to do p.s. than in korea or japan. but now i think its reversed? but yea, its still damn ex to do with renowned surgeons.

there are many senior thai surgeons and professors who are very trained in revision rhinoplasty, and all sorts of "weird" procedures like jaw bone shaving, browbone shaving, forehead reconstruction, etc ( because of the transgender community). pple from USA also fly to thailand to do procedures.

but agree that m'sia probably worst !!

singapore still ok, cos our equipment and medical staff are up-to-date. just experience lacking. :)

comparing singapore p.s. qualifications to thai p.s. quali , you can see that singapore p.s. has more qualifications like going to england and aust for residency etc, but unfortunately they are not able to realise their full potential due to lack of real-life experience. most of their cases are unfortunately trauma reconstruction and not "normal" cases. but, i definitely have faith in singapore p.s. if my face disfigured or what. i tink singapore ps very good in reconstructive.
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Post by aadvark » Tue, 01 Apr 2008 1:45 am

boii18 wrote:
hello84 wrote:save up money to find a better surgeon... is too late when you already had a scar... infact i dun think thai and malaysia are good in PS... unatural nose bridge, can seen the implant by the tip of your nose.. a white shine spot... aunt look alike double eyelid... nowsaday nobody go and cut those thick eyelid liao le... ignorn me if you think i am talking rubbish...
not true abt thai p.s.

my singapore surgeon agrees that thailand is all along consistently the best in p.s. especially those well established surgeons in thailand

in the past, it was more expensive in thailand to do p.s. than in korea or japan. but now i think its reversed? but yea, its still damn ex to do with renowned surgeons.

there are many senior thai surgeons and professors who are very trained in revision rhinoplasty, and all sorts of "weird" procedures like jaw bone shaving, browbone shaving, forehead reconstruction, etc ( because of the transgender community). pple from USA also fly to thailand to do procedures.

but agree that m'sia probably worst !!

singapore still ok, cos our equipment and medical staff are up-to-date. just experience lacking. :)

comparing singapore p.s. qualifications to thai p.s. quali , you can see that singapore p.s. has more qualifications like going to england and aust for residency etc, but unfortunately they are not able to realise their full potential due to lack of real-life experience. most of their cases are unfortunately trauma reconstruction and not "normal" cases. but, i definitely have faith in singapore p.s. if my face disfigured or what. i tink singapore ps very good in reconstructive.
haha, thai PS consistently turn men into beautiful women, nuff said :D
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Post by appletree » Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:39 pm

To share my experiences,

i was very tempted to go kalo as it is so much nearer to singapore and follow-up after ps is so much easier. People who know that i did my nose thought that i look so much much prettier without the nose job, as my new nose has made me looks so much mature...that doesnt suit my face.. :(

I told dr in kalo that i wanted a high nose, but he gave me an overly high nose bridge in between the eyes space..that makes my nose looks fake. Right now even worse, the implant has shifted to the left..and my nose tip was only lowered a wee bit..that wasnt what i want. Anyhow, i cant blame anyone for it, because its my own decision to go there, can only blame it on myself.
Whatever it is, i regretted doing my nose in kalo.. sorry to say that but its the truth. I dont wish to share my pics in here as i want to remain low profile. I can only say that from pics it look fake, but from my real person, it wasnt that bad lar if people dont notice much. But nevermind, i will be going to dr hsu in taiwan to redo my nose.. at least there is still hope for me to remove this existing one.

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Post by tanjhj » Thu, 03 Apr 2008 4:09 pm

aadvark wrote:
haha, thai PS consistently turn men into beautiful women, nuff said :D
Yupz . so beautiful and addictive that the thai govt have to ban castration else their mens all become women. lol

that speak volume about their skills... just my own views.

nevertheless, i as a ex-malaysian have been telling ppl not to go Kalo or msia PS saloons since last year at the expense that someone very loyal to Kalo have to spread "bad" rumours abt me to the other forumers to make them turn against me and dent my effort from warning others abt doing PS in Kalo.

Well, Thou i was bitten badly and last week got a ah beng called me to "challenge" me to meet him for a fight and stop toking bad abt Kalo.

Thou i suffered for this, however i have to do something and tell what i feel else i dun feel good abt it. i dun wish others to "kana" for nothing. no point paying for something cheap and than likely need to go for revision again at other doctor, waste money time and pain.

But the truth will prevail... "Time will tell the Truth" now 1 year has passed, i am sad to see so many ppl "suffered" mentally and financially and physically in vain. these are what i am trying to warn ppl abt since early last year.
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Post by yen2006 » Thu, 03 Apr 2008 9:25 pm

[quote="tanjhj"]yes to be fair, cutting incision may need up to 1 year to totally healed and some ppl unbalanced eyed become balanced after 1 year. most ppl will need around 6 months for the final stage. some lesser it really depend on the person and how much tissues was removed..

anyway for yen, i saw her before, i think she belong to those who have more potential for PS than others. not everyone can do PS and achieve her result that easily. one good example is her nose skin. her skin near the nose area is looser and thicker than most ppl hence she can get that high bridge she wanted.

one forumer who did his/her nose job at kalo with the same implant is not able to get yen's result as her nose skin is much tighter and less thick. hence she/he got that "stick on the nose" looks (fakey looking)[quote="tanjhj"]


Hi tanjhj,

How are you? Great to see you around for so long.


Thanks for saying that I have potential for ps.


I think just doing 1 time ps (per area) will not actually pleased or be satisfied with the results..& it depends on your potential as well.


I did my double eyelids in singapore 3 years ago & the dr blotched it up, causing my eyelid to be droppy & hidden, I asked the dr to redo for me 2 months after my surgery, he actually asked me to pay $1000 to redo. So I gave up the idea. Sad to said, this dr has alot of certificates in his clinic & his experience is more than 20 years. Maybe Im the unlucky one? My eyelids have very deep scars caused by this dr too. I felt helpless & angry at that time.


1 year plus later, I met a few friends who did their ps at KALO. They looked very natural & nice thats why I choose to redo my droppy eyes & hidden eyelids & nose at kalo .


You remember you tag along for my rhinoplasty at kalo? the dr advised me to do Alarplasty together coz I have super broad nose, but I refused.


3 months later after rhinoplasty, I went back to kalo to do Alarplasty with 1 gal in forum..This time I asked the dr to do my nose until very very small but the dr said later not natural so she insisted to do a natural Alarplasty for me.so I said ok lol.


Shortly, 3 months later I redo my double eyelid & did Epicantoplasty at kalo with a kaki ,this time I totally pleased with my eyes coz this dr listened to wat I want.


But as for my Alarplasty, I was only ok but not very happy with the result so I redo last month Mar with a few forumers .This time, Im also very pleased with the results .


Total Ps I did

2 x double eyelid

2 x Alarplasty

1 x Rhinoplasty

1 x Epicantoplasty



After all these ps,I think as you said it really depends on indivual potiential & luck too.


God bless
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Post by shal0m » Fri, 04 Apr 2008 6:01 pm

appletree wrote:To share my experiences,

i was very tempted to go kalo as it is so much nearer to singapore and follow-up after ps is so much easier. People who know that i did my nose thought that i look so much much prettier without the nose job, as my new nose has made me looks so much mature...that doesnt suit my face.. :(

I told dr in kalo that i wanted a high nose, but he gave me an overly high nose bridge in between the eyes space..that makes my nose looks fake. Right now even worse, the implant has shifted to the left..and my nose tip was only lowered a wee bit..that wasnt what i want. Anyhow, i cant blame anyone for it, because its my own decision to go there, can only blame it on myself.
Whatever it is, i regretted doing my nose in kalo.. sorry to say that but its the truth. I dont wish to share my pics in here as i want to remain low profile. I can only say that from pics it look fake, but from my real person, it wasnt that bad lar if people dont notice much. But nevermind, i will be going to dr hsu in taiwan to redo my nose.. at least there is still hope for me to remove this existing one.
hey appletree...i also got an overly-high nose there...esp the space btn the eyes...bridge starts too high...side view like roman soldier sculture...lol..glad i had it replaced...it was super fake lor...

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Post by lila25 » Fri, 04 Apr 2008 8:28 pm

haha, the person doing the surgeries for us is not a doctor also. and the so-call doctor never listen to what i want even. i was scolded somemore. i seriously won't go back there anymore man. it's so damn hard to communicate with them. what's more, when communication is the main thing a client and the doctor should go through before having done any surgery. i was scolded ok. OMG.

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Post by yen2006 » Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:09 pm

lila25 wrote:haha, the person doing the surgeries for us is not a doctor also. and the so-call doctor never listen to what i want even. i was scolded somemore. i seriously won't go back there anymore man. it's so damn hard to communicate with them. what's more, when communication is the main thing a client and the doctor should go through before having done any surgery. i was scolded ok. OMG.

Your posts sounds very fishy to everyone,don't know which are truth or false..or izzit some dummy setting up another account?????

How would a doctor be so STUPID to scold his or her patient?

Drs should know that customers are always rite, should treat every one as King/queen, I think this is common senses rite????

If their services and skills are so badly rated.

How would their business expanded so much & can last so many years???????????


Kalo should have closed down within a few months since they are so bad, how come they can survive so many years huh??????


If thats the case , why dont you go sue Kalo ? Since you & your kakis detest & hate Kalo so much rite????


As tanjhj said sue kalo to compensate

tanjhj wrote: Hi,

IF you need any help, i can see if there is any msia lawyers who are willing to take your case, i know my law teacher knew some famous lawyers in msia. PM me if kalo refuse to compensate you. :x


I have a lawyer friend working in Allan & Glendhill the 2nd largest lawyer firm in singapore. His good & can sure win the case.


I can accompany you to file your case & ask my friend to give you discount .


Talk no use must action!!! I support you all the way :P


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Post by aadvark » Sat, 05 Apr 2008 3:06 am

Yen, i am not attacking you, but just wondering, why get so upset with them? This will just fuel further comments that you have a stake in Kalo. For every clinic/doc/hospital, sure got successful cases and failure cases too.

You are definitely a successful case. Maybe they are the failure cases, which in turn, actually makes them pitiful le, why is everyone still accusing each other...

for the rest, i think it's fair enough to state what happened, probably no need to keep denouncing the clinic, altho' can see sometimes that you are not the ones who started the argument (newcomers can refer to previous pages if you dunnoe what's happening), but dun get caught up in the rant

surgeons are people, not machines, they prob dun produce the same fantastic results all the time. we are all users of plastic surgery, not the actual ones doing the surgery, which is why i always answer what i can when asked, and tell them to question the docs instead when i'm not sure.

arguing on behalf of the surgeon/clinic just doesn;t make sense. it's like getting a good deal at Isetan, and insisting that everything they sell is good. good deals sometimes depend on luck, not just a keen eye.

people who got recommended by yen and didn't have an ideal surgery shldn't blame her too. I mean if hers wasn't successful, i dun think she wld recommend you to the clinic. My 2 cents worth (and my comments are valid cos i'm allowed to post in any thread!) :)
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Post by lila25 » Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:32 pm

yen : u said i'm fishy? haha! look who's talking. ur just mad that all the bad comments bout Kalo are now starting to surface. in fact, there're even way more silent readers overhere who are the victim and also alot victims didn't know about the existence of this thread. if they know, guess there will be even more bad comments were to surface overhere.

the so-call doctor scolded me ok, asking me to keep quiet and listen to the damn music. cuz i was saying i want something like this and that effect, showing a celeb's pic i brought along. even the consultant also damn impatient. why would i lie about all these? in fact ur the fishy one. whenever someone is interested in cosmetic surgeries, u will message that person and suggest going for Kalo for consultation and all la, summore say quote your name wor. promoting Kalo like nobody's business as though you're one of the shareholders in Kalo. and i guess i know why urs is a successful case and whatnot, cuz you'll be their advertising medium. helping them to 'expand' their business by promoting this and that. always say your friends and kaki very happy with the results and all. i wonder how much % of truth is there? cuz i certainly don't see that when i was visiting the clinic myself. i heard customer complaining in front of the consultant somemore. the consultant so scared that they quickly shove the victims to a room and say dono what discuss this and that.

do you think i'm so stupid enough to buy an air ticket and fly all the way back to south-east Asia just to ask them to compensate and such? and do u really so stupid enough think they will compensate that easily without me having to go through all the lawyers and such? plus, do u think i'm so free? all these amount of money spent can be used for a revision surgery for me with another certified professional plastic surgeon rather than this self-declare doctor who came down from china.

for your information, Kalo promote their business like crazy okay. they advertise here and there. this and that magazine and newspaper. the magazine my friends bought always have them advertising cuz they always advertise more than 1 or 2 magazine and newspaper. have you ever seen a plastic surgery clinic done by certified professional doctor doing all these sort of promoting ar?

by the way, bear in mind that a non-certified professional plastic surgeon shouldn't be operating surgeries on people. if one day there're too many customers complaining, these so-call doctors will only leave everything behind and fly back to china and what can u do? cry and regret never listen and didn't do deep research.

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Post by yen2006 » Sat, 05 Apr 2008 2:53 pm

lila25 wrote:yen : u said i'm fishy? haha! look who's talking. ur just mad that all the bad comments bout Kalo are now starting to surface. in fact, there're even way more silent readers overhere who are the victim and also alot victims didn't know about the existence of this thread. if they know, guess there will be even more bad comments were to surface overhere.

the so-call doctor scolded me ok, asking me to keep quiet and listen to the damn music. cuz i was saying i want something like this and that effect, showing a celeb's pic i brought along. even the consultant also damn impatient. why would i lie about all these? in fact ur the fishy one. whenever someone is interested in cosmetic surgeries, u will message that person and suggest going for Kalo for consultation and all la, summore say quote your name wor. promoting Kalo like nobody's business as though you're one of the shareholders in Kalo. and i guess i know why urs is a successful case and whatnot, cuz you'll be their advertising medium. helping them to 'expand' their business by promoting this and that. always say your friends and kaki very happy with the results and all. i wonder how much % of truth is there? cuz i certainly don't see that when i was visiting the clinic myself. i heard customer complaining in front of the consultant somemore. the consultant so scared that they quickly shove the victims to a room and say dono what discuss this and that.
?)Haha long long time did not PM since last year and I do not PM you either or others unless they PM me.If you said so.
then (lila25 acct) should be dummy created.

lila25 wrote: do you think i'm so stupid enough to buy an air ticket and fly all the way back to south-east Asia just to ask them to compensate and such? and do u really so stupid enough think they will compensate that easily without me having to go through all the lawyers and such? plus, do u think i'm so free? all these amount of money spent can be used for a revision surgery for me with another certified professional plastic surgeon rather than this self-declare doctor who came down from china.
I think you are crazy from so far country come down Kalo for PS. You sure or not?
lila25 wrote: for your information, Kalo promote their business like crazy okay. they advertise here and there. this and that magazine and newspaper. the magazine my friends bought always have them advertising cuz they always advertise more than 1 or 2 magazine and newspaper. have you ever seen a plastic surgery clinic done by certified professional doctor doing all these sort of promoting ar?
Haha another ????
How crazy they advertise?so far I only see it on 1 magazine.

Fyi, Singapore very famous ps drs like W.W & MH also advertise in magazines & tv too, so you are saying they not certified professional doctors too?

lila25 wrote: by the way, bear in mind that a non-certified professional plastic surgeon shouldn't be operating surgeries on people. if one day there're too many customers complaining, these so-call doctors will only leave everything behind and fly back to china and what can u do? cry and regret never listen and didn't do deep research.
If they hired non-certified professional plastic surgeon.
They will be cease operation by malaysia gov.
Alot of their rival companies will act faster to see them close down.


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Post by yen2006 » Sat, 05 Apr 2008 3:07 pm

aadvark wrote:Yen, i am not attacking you, but just wondering, why get so upset with them? This will just fuel further comments that you have a stake in Kalo. For every clinic/doc/hospital, sure got successful cases and failure cases too.

You are definitely a successful case. Maybe they are the failure cases, which in turn, actually makes them pitiful le, why is everyone still accusing each other...

for the rest, i think it's fair enough to state what happened, probably no need to keep denouncing the clinic, altho' can see sometimes that you are not the ones who started the argument (newcomers can refer to previous pages if you dunnoe what's happening), but dun get caught up in the rant

surgeons are people, not machines, they prob dun produce the same fantastic results all the time. we are all users of plastic surgery, not the actual ones doing the surgery, which is why i always answer what i can when asked, and tell them to question the docs instead when i'm not sure.

arguing on behalf of the surgeon/clinic just doesn;t make sense. it's like getting a good deal at Isetan, and insisting that everything they sell is good. good deals sometimes depend on luck, not just a keen eye.

people who got recommended by yen and didn't have an ideal surgery shldn't blame her too. I mean if hers wasn't successful, i dun think she wld recommend you to the clinic. My 2 cents worth (and my comments are valid cos i'm allowed to post in any thread!) :)
Hi Aadvark,

I'm not upset at all they saying bad about Kalo & I agreed with you. But I can't tolerated that some ppl create another acct to post rubbish & add salt & pepper.

Cause I believe not all Ps are perfect,there will always some ppl not happy or satisfied just like me when I first did my double eyelid in singapore.

I did not condemm the Dr & said bad things about him, if ppl ask me abt him, I will still refer them to the dr.

No big deal just redo until you are satisfied like me lol.

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Post by appletree » Sat, 05 Apr 2008 3:32 pm

Hi shalom,

Yea i have the same problem as yours...sob makes me too looks kind of manly on my side profile.
Im happy for you that you have finally fixed the problem :)
By the way, where you had your revision done? :)

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appletree wrote:To share my experiences,

i was very tempted to go kalo as it is so much nearer to singapore and follow-up after ps is so much easier. People who know that i did my nose thought that i look so much much prettier without the nose job, as my new nose has made me looks so much mature...that doesnt suit my face.. :(

I told dr in kalo that i wanted a high nose, but he gave me an overly high nose bridge in between the eyes space..that makes my nose looks fake. Right now even worse, the implant has shifted to the left..and my nose tip was only lowered a wee bit..that wasnt what i want. Anyhow, i cant blame anyone for it, because its my own decision to go there, can only blame it on myself.
Whatever it is, i regretted doing my nose in kalo.. sorry to say that but its the truth. I dont wish to share my pics in here as i want to remain low profile. I can only say that from pics it look fake, but from my real person, it wasnt that bad lar if people dont notice much. But nevermind, i will be going to dr hsu in taiwan to redo my nose.. at least there is still hope for me to remove this existing one.
hey appletree...i also got an overly-high nose there...esp the space btn the eyes...bridge starts too high...side view like roman soldier sculture...lol..glad i had it replaced...it was super fake lor...

@princessli & takuda,
thank you both for backing me up!! friends forever! :D

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Post by shal0m » Sat, 05 Apr 2008 5:48 pm

i had replaced at Dr Nara, HDY...oops...some ppl may not be happy that i mentioned names...u can get info on him on the other thread by aadvark :)
appletree wrote:Hi shalom,

Yea i have the same problem as yours...sob makes me too looks kind of manly on my side profile.
Im happy for you that you have finally fixed the problem :)
By the way, where you had your revision done? :)

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appletree wrote:To share my experiences,

i was very tempted to go kalo as it is so much nearer to singapore and follow-up after ps is so much easier. People who know that i did my nose thought that i look so much much prettier without the nose job, as my new nose has made me looks so much mature...that doesnt suit my face.. :(

I told dr in kalo that i wanted a high nose, but he gave me an overly high nose bridge in between the eyes space..that makes my nose looks fake. Right now even worse, the implant has shifted to the left..and my nose tip was only lowered a wee bit..that wasnt what i want. Anyhow, i cant blame anyone for it, because its my own decision to go there, can only blame it on myself.
Whatever it is, i regretted doing my nose in kalo.. sorry to say that but its the truth. I dont wish to share my pics in here as i want to remain low profile. I can only say that from pics it look fake, but from my real person, it wasnt that bad lar if people dont notice much. But nevermind, i will be going to dr hsu in taiwan to redo my nose.. at least there is still hope for me to remove this existing one.
hey appletree...i also got an overly-high nose there...esp the space btn the eyes...bridge starts too high...side view like roman soldier sculture...lol..glad i had it replaced...it was super fake lor...

@princessli & takuda,
thank you both for backing me up!! friends forever! :D
Shal0m

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