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Postby Sea » Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:28 pm

Hey Chellequeen, you dont have to be so judgemental. Yen is just a satified customer who would recommand Kalo for consultation. She is willing to share her experience to everyone of us that all.
chellequeen wrote:look who is talking! i'm suspicious? errr...are you talking about yourself,yen? who is the one who goes on promoting Kalo as if she is the sales consultant? perhaps more hardsell than the sales consultant working there. did i promote any docs before? not even one!

i'm not as selfish as u who doesnt think bout others but yourself. i just hope u dun mislead others. they are innocent. and do u think i'm dat free to create a new acc just because of this issue? i have much more better things to do than messaging forumers who are interested to do p.s to go for kalo. and why would i have to go to ur saloon and chat with u? do u see urself so important that i have to waste my time to do so?

it is very obvious you are not just promoting Kalo by posting in the forums but u actuali, message each of them, asking them to go for kalo. what's more, not just in this forum, but other forums. OMG! hardsell like nobody's business.

if kalo is so good, business will come to them easily. they don't need someone selling them so hard. it does give people a bad impression. no offense, u are like those sales agent trying hard to pitch people to buy their products, so that u could hit your target.

furthermore, u haven't explain about kalo being open for 5 years instead of 10 years. and also the magic epi that the korean docs are doing. trying to drift apart from those questions by talking about something else? what a smart move!

in conclusion, u are mad because i've revealed ur motive to all the forumers. i'm doing this for the good of others, i just hope they are making the best choice. cuz i have heard alot of unhappy stories of people having done their surgery in beauty clinics. prevention is better than cure.

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Postby chellequeen » Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:59 pm

excuse me, plz read properly. i said Kalo didn't do magic epi. not didn't do epi. Magic epi is a new technique from Korea. it is different from the usual epi technique. she said kalo does magic epi but in actual fact, they only do the normal epi.

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Postby candiesboy » Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:33 pm

who shouldnt be too judgemental towards chellequeen .. she trying to tell us she nv force us to believe her i guess? so we can heed her advice .. i'm sure she's just to warn us to believe or not still in our hands right .... chellequeen .... dont worry one day ppl will know if those who wanna go ahead let them be just when they whine ignore them ? ok

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Re: KALO

Postby Jang » Wed, 15 Aug 2007 1:10 am

yen2006 wrote:
chellequeen wrote:look who is talking! i'm suspicious? errr...are you talking about yourself,yen? who is the one who goes on promoting Kalo as if she is the sales consultant? perhaps more hardsell than the sales consultant working there. did i promote any docs before? not even one!

i'm not as selfish as u who doesnt think bout others but yourself. i just hope u dun mislead others. they are innocent. and do u think i'm dat free to create a new acc just because of this issue? i have much more better things to do than messaging forumers who are interested to do p.s to go for kalo. and why would i have to go to ur saloon and chat with u? do u see urself so important that i have to waste my time to do so?

it is very obvious you are not just promoting Kalo by posting in the forums but u actuali, message each of them, asking them to go for kalo. what's more, not just in this forum, but other forums. OMG! hardsell like nobody's business.

if kalo is so good, business will come to them easily. they don't need someone selling them so hard. it does give people a bad impression. no offense, u are like those sales agent trying hard to pitch people to buy their products, so that u could hit your target.

furthermore, u haven't explain about kalo being open for 5 years instead of 10 years. and also the magic epi that the korean docs are doing. trying to drift apart from those questions by talking about something else? what a smart move!
in conclusion, u are mad because i've revealed ur motive to all the forumers. i'm doing this for the good of others, i just hope they are making the best choice. cuz i have heard alot of unhappy stories of people having done their surgery in beauty clinics. prevention is better than cure.



Dear little girl,

What a childish post hehe :P I don't own you any explaination.

If anyone wants to know whether KALO is in Msia for 5 or 10 years? & whether I did Epicantoplasty?
Ppl will call KALO +6016 712 0022 to verify.

Thank you girl for being so childish & nice for all your accusations against me keke :P

I really appreciated that :cool:


It is no surprise that she collects commission from KALO as she has been pushing so hard with all her exaggerated numbers and stories.

Actually, it is common for a doctor to offer rewards for referrals. And there is nothing wrong with collecting commission as long as you are up front about it and promote the clinic in a proper manner.

But, I am sorry, Yen, you are doing it all wrong.
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Postby aadvark » Wed, 15 Aug 2007 1:12 am

ok, like Takuda, am not taking sides here too, but Yen is enthusiastic about her successful surgeries, and those of us who have done PS are equally enthu to share with our friends. We can only share about who we have gone to, so Yen shares about Kalo, I share about Dr Nara, and when I have come back from Yanhee in Dec, I will share about that too...

I consulted at Kalo, and I'm tempted by some of the procedures and not tempted by some. i would say that different places will have their strengths and weaknesses, so really depends on personal preferences.

I didn't manage to speak to the head consultant, some guy spoke to me instead and he didn't seem very knowledgeable, but i took all their brochures home for a good read and comparison.

One thing tho, that guy DID say that Kalo has been around for 10 years... just that it has been operating from KL all this while, now then they start up in JB...
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Re: KALO

Postby aadvark » Wed, 15 Aug 2007 1:31 am

Jang wrote:
yen2006 wrote:
chellequeen wrote:look who is talking! i'm suspicious? errr...are you talking about yourself,yen? who is the one who goes on promoting Kalo as if she is the sales consultant? perhaps more hardsell than the sales consultant working there. did i promote any docs before? not even one!

i'm not as selfish as u who doesnt think bout others but yourself. i just hope u dun mislead others. they are innocent. and do u think i'm dat free to create a new acc just because of this issue? i have much more better things to do than messaging forumers who are interested to do p.s to go for kalo. and why would i have to go to ur saloon and chat with u? do u see urself so important that i have to waste my time to do so?

it is very obvious you are not just promoting Kalo by posting in the forums but u actuali, message each of them, asking them to go for kalo. what's more, not just in this forum, but other forums. OMG! hardsell like nobody's business.

if kalo is so good, business will come to them easily. they don't need someone selling them so hard. it does give people a bad impression. no offense, u are like those sales agent trying hard to pitch people to buy their products, so that u could hit your target.

furthermore, u haven't explain about kalo being open for 5 years instead of 10 years. and also the magic epi that the korean docs are doing. trying to drift apart from those questions by talking about something else? what a smart move!
in conclusion, u are mad because i've revealed ur motive to all the forumers. i'm doing this for the good of others, i just hope they are making the best choice. cuz i have heard alot of unhappy stories of people having done their surgery in beauty clinics. prevention is better than cure.



Dear little girl,

What a childish post hehe :P I don't own you any explaination.

If anyone wants to know whether KALO is in Msia for 5 or 10 years? & whether I did Epicantoplasty?
Ppl will call KALO +6016 712 0022 to verify.

Thank you girl for being so childish & nice for all your accusations against me keke :P

I really appreciated that :cool:


It is no surprise that she collects commission from KALO as she has been pushing so hard with all her exaggerated numbers and stories.

Actually, it is common for a doctor to offer rewards for referrals. And there is nothing wrong with collecting commission as long as you are up front about it and promote the clinic in a proper manner.

But, I am sorry, Yen, you are doing it all wrong.


Gosh, Jang, you say it matter-of-factly like you have proof that she has taken commission... I've been to the clinic and I can't even say it with as much conviction, LOL :D

In fairness, I will quote this incident; I was inquiring abt braces like half a year ago, and Yen actually suggested this dental clinic she seen nearby Kalo, and thinks it's pretty cheap. Unless you can prove she is taking commission from that entire street, else I will say to everyone, give her the benefit of the doubt...

chellequeen, u asked Kalo, they said 5 years, Yen asked Kalo, they said 10 years. maybe the entire problem lies with their consultants, and not really our forumers...

I speaking out cos whenever i read all the posts, i get really tensed - that same feeling you get when ur family is fighting, and u are stuck in the midst of it... it's a terrible feeling so everyone let's try to end the tension in here...
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Magic Epicanthoplasty

Postby Jang » Wed, 15 Aug 2007 1:43 am

When I was sharing some info on flowerpod forum regarding the newly developed method of 'Magic Epi'

And this is what you have quoted :

QUOTE(yen2006 @ Jul 18 2007, 11:31 PM)

Ya, I did the Magic Epicanthoplasty at KALO, no scar after a few days
http://www.flowerpod.com.sg/forums/inde ... 95&st=1480

As for the method you claim that "you did epi by 'poking 3 small holes on each eye then from most inner hole do epicanthoplasty" This is not Magic Epi!

The actual Magic Epi method make incision under the cilia of lower eyelids and makes no noticeable scar. The size of scar is very small and barely noticeable, but it is not "no" scar.

新开眼角手术:
现在有更先进的手术方式,新手术方式是眼角上不会留疤痕。在下眼线处会有一条疤痕,这疤痕是会变淡 ,但是不会完全没有的。
疤痕是几乎都不见的。下眼睫毛的下边有一条很细很细的线。距离近一般都看不见可是有的人呢按照自己皮肤的体制疤痕有点看得出来。

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Postby aadvark » Wed, 15 Aug 2007 1:50 am

candall wrote:hi addvark

have u seen one of the forumer cupidznstarz; hope is correct..
his eyes very nice but cant rmbr where he did his
very deep like tat

hey ur roadmap idea very good
gif me ideas too
but i m going to see more PS before i draft mine too haha
oh hows the eyes nose n chin?
have u post pics here?
thanks


hi candall,

yup spoke to cupidz extensively before, he did part of it in indonesia (where he's from) and the rest with Dr Chuang! Very major makeover for him, haha, I dunnoe i going to do until so major or not...

my eyes nose and chin have healed by now, did them in dec 06. Posted pix in the other thread b4, so have to refer to the other thread ;)
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Postby beannie » Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:16 pm

Hi everyone, just a small update of my eye surgery done in KALO. Not as swollen as 1st day. However, still puffy. Hope that my two eyes will look balance soon..

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Re: Magic Epicanthoplasty

Postby Ms Juice » Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:04 pm

Jang wrote:When I was sharing some info on flowerpod forum regarding the newly developed method of 'Magic Epi'

And this is what you have quoted :

QUOTE(yen2006 @ Jul 18 2007, 11:31 PM)

Ya, I did the Magic Epicanthoplasty at KALO, no scar after a few days
http://www.flowerpod.com.sg/forums/inde ... 95&st=1480

As for the method you claim that "you did epi by 'poking 3 small holes on each eye then from most inner hole do epicanthoplasty" This is not Magic Epi!

The actual Magic Epi method make incision under the cilia of lower eyelids and makes no noticeable scar. The size of scar is very small and barely noticeable, but it is not "no" scar.

新开眼角手术:
现在有更先进的手术方式,新手术方式是眼角上不会留疤痕。在下眼线处会有一条疤痕,这疤痕是会变淡 ,但是不会完全没有的。
疤痕是几乎都不见的。下眼睫毛的下边有一条很细很细的线。距离近一般都看不见可是有的人呢按照自己皮肤的体制疤痕有点看得出来。


actually for yen's eyes,which i saw after 1 wk of her surgery, cant realy c got any scars leh....
i tink tats what she meant, cos reali cant see fm bare eyes

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Postby prettyface07 » Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:06 am

Hi All,

I'm new here and been watching the plastic thread all along.
I have decided to do my Eye & Nose.
Qing duo duo zhi jiao! :D

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Re: Magic Epicanthoplasty

Postby candiesboy » Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:37 am

Ms Juice wrote:
Jang wrote:When I was sharing some info on flowerpod forum regarding the newly developed method of 'Magic Epi'

And this is what you have quoted :

QUOTE(yen2006 @ Jul 18 2007, 11:31 PM)

Ya, I did the Magic Epicanthoplasty at KALO, no scar after a few days
http://www.flowerpod.com.sg/forums/inde ... 95&st=1480

As for the method you claim that "you did epi by 'poking 3 small holes on each eye then from most inner hole do epicanthoplasty" This is not Magic Epi!

The actual Magic Epi method make incision under the cilia of lower eyelids and makes no noticeable scar. The size of scar is very small and barely noticeable, but it is not "no" scar.

新开眼角手术:
现在有更先进的手术方式,新手术方式是眼角上不会留疤痕。在下眼线处会有一条疤痕,这疤痕是会变淡 ,但是不会完全没有的。
疤痕是几乎都不见的。下眼睫毛的下边有一条很细很细的线。距离近一般都看不见可是有的人呢按照自己皮肤的体制疤痕有点看得出来。


actually for yen's eyes,which i saw after 1 wk of her surgery, cant realy c got any scars leh....
i tink tats what she meant, cos reali cant see fm bare eyes


meaning she nv do epicanthoplasty lo as easy as abc :) if do the magic one also can see abit scarring but its sooooo minimal that u cant notice it clearly but when u notice clearly u can tell :) HThs

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Postby prettyface07 » Fri, 17 Aug 2007 9:46 am

Hi all,

I have some info to share about yen is not doing Magic Epi But something advanced:

Epicanthoplasty with Modified “Y-V”
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Postby prettyface07 » Fri, 17 Aug 2007 9:50 am

Hi all,

There is some info which some experts said:

How to address the epicanthal fold in the Asian eyelid: `No Scar Asian Epicanthoplasty' technique provides simple, graded procedure. (Avoids complications).
From: Ophthalmology Times | Date: 10/1/2002 | Author: Anderson, Richard L.; Jordan, David R.; Yen, Michael T.
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Formation of a "double eyelid" by creating an upper eyelid crease with aponeurotic fixation has become one of the most popular cosmetic procedures in many Asian patients.

In those individuals with epicanthal folds, however, removing the upper eyelid skin without addressing the epicanthal fold creates additional tension along the fold and accentuates its appearance.

In the past, epicanthal folds were thought to be due to excess skin, and early techniques involved excision of the fold. This almost always created secondary folds and noticeable scarring. Z-plasty transposition flaps and Y-V advancement procedures were directed toward treating what was thought to be a shortage of tissues and their resulting tension lines.

These procedures all create additional incisions and can cause prominent scarring in the medial canthal region. Unnatural folds and lines can be created by the incisions, which are visible postoperatively and may be more cosmetically unacceptable than the original epicanthal fold.

Our "No Scar Asian Epicanthoplasty" is a simple technique of removing the excessive muscle and softening or eliminating the epicanthal fold of the Asian upper eyelid without creating incisions in the medial canthal region, thus avoiding these complications.

Surgical technique

Instead of creating complicated transposition flaps and unsightly incisions, we perform a subcutaneous epicanthoplasty in conjunction with upper eyelid blepharoplasty or ptosis repair. The upper eyelid crease incision and the epicanthal fold are marked prior to infiltration with local anesthetic. The incision should not extend into the medial canthal region or over the crest of the epicanthal fold.

Upper eyelid blepharoplasty or aponeurotic ptosis surgery is performed in the usual manner. Excision of the underlying musculature from the epicanthal fold begins at the medial end of the eyelid crease incision (Figure 1). Tension on the medial aspect of the incision in the direction of the epicanthal fold demonstrates the hypertrophic orbicularis muscle underlying and creating the epicanthal fold.

[FIGURE 1 OMITTED]

The skin of the epicanthal fold is elevated with skin hooks, and the orbicularis muscle is dissected away from the overlying skin (Figure 2). During the dissection and excision of the orbicularis muscle, the angular or infratrochlear vessels may be encountered, and meticulous cautery is essential to maintain hemostasis. Direct cauterization of the skin must be applied cautiously to prevent scarring.

[FIGURE 2 OMITTED]

The extent of the dissection and excision of the underlying hypertrophic orbicularis muscle should be graded depending on how much the epicanthal fold is to be softened. If complete elimination of the epicanthal fold is desired, deep tissue fixation at the medial edge of the blepharoplasty incision is accomplished by anchoring the skin to the deep tissues with a strong absorbable suture, such as 6-0 chromic catgut (Figure 3). One or two interrupted sutures are usually sufficient to provide adequate deep fixation and further eliminate the epicanthal fold and prevent its recurrence. The eyelid crease incision is then closed in the usual manner. Antibiotic/steroid ointment is applied to the incision, and the patient is instructed in routine postoperative wound care.

[FIGURE 3 OMITTED]

By aggressively removing the musculature underlying the epicanthal fold, with the "No Scar Asian Epicanthoplasty" the surgeon is able to avoid the use of complicated and unsightly transposition flaps. There is minimal risk of web formation or scar formation in the medial canthal region since no skin incisions are made in that area.

This technique does not create unnatural lines, folds, or scars, and it is simple to perform in conjunction with upper eyelid blepharoplasty or ptosis repair. An added benefit of this technique is that it can be graded either to soften or to eliminate the epicanthal folds depending on the amount of musculature removed.

In our experience, most Asian patients do not wish to eliminate their epicanthal folds completely and have the occidental eyelid appearance. Their expectations are to have a less noticeable epicanthal fold after creation of an upper eyelid crease rather than a more prominent epicanthal fold as occurs if nothing is done to soften the fold. This creates the cosmetically desirable "Euro-Asiatic" eyelid rather than an occidental eyelid. In summary, softening of the epicanthal fold is necessary when creating an upper eyelid crease in the Asian patient. We believe that the cosmetic correction of most Asian epicanthal folds can be performed without the use of confusing and complicated transposition flaps. Our technique is a simple, graded procedure that can be performed in conjunction with upper eyelid blepharoplasty or ptosis repair.

Reference

* Yen MT, Jordan DR, Anderson RL. No-scar Asian epicanthoplasty: a subcutaneous approach. Ophthal Plast Reconstr Surg 2002;18:40-44.

Michael T. Yen, MD, is assistant professor of ophthalmology, Cullen Eye Institute, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX.

David R. Jordan, MD, is professor of ophthalmology, University of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

Richard L. Anderson, MD, editor of Plastics Pearls, is an ophthalmic and facial plastic surgeon. He is medical director of Center for Facial Appearances, Salt Lake City, UT

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Hi

Postby prettyface07 » Fri, 17 Aug 2007 9:59 am

Hi yen2006,

No offence,Your eye look dolly.
Just to clear ppl & my doubt about magic epi
if there is such procdure I will be very interested.
Cause my eye look small.
I also scare there will be deep scar.

I also post in flowerpod.
http://www.flowerpod.com.sg/forums/index.php?showtopic=195&st=1640

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