Never though about that possible correlation. Very astute observation and probably very accurate as well. So, "low crime doesn't mean no crime" has a double meaning. It's would appear that it's only the tip of the iceberg.saidean wrote:
And of course if a complaint becomes a civil case, it no longer marks as a criminal statistic, hence keeping the perception of the country as relatively crime-free...
No but I have friends there too, so I do know the area very well, having visited friends there many times, and i must admit, the local pub scene and music at lunch times, was quite an eye opener, a little like East Enders soap on TV, a very close community. Although at night time I would be careful!German_Expat wrote:Hi ksl, did you live in Brixton by any chance?
Sorry, I don't really understand why you're so "humiliated" by this "traumatic experience" here. You went to a store, you told off a sales person for not knowing his products, he lost his temper and told you to get out. Rude, yes, unprofessional, yes, a very stupid way to treat a potential customer, yes, but -- that's it. He didn't touch you, you've lost no money, no laws were broken. I don't see what angle the press could possibly use to make this into a story: "Customer asked to leave store?"taikoo wrote:Perhaps if you were in my position with my two grown up sons and this happens outside your country, you will understand my humiliation....believe me this would not have happened to me in my country as we don't have rogues like the one I encountered in Royal Plus in SLS
It's not 'race' per se but cultural differences that's the point here. As you pointed out, you never had this happen to you before in your country before. There's 2 possibilities to this :taikoo wrote:saidean
I don't understand why you need to bring races into picture here....
Perhaps if you were in my position with my two grown up sons and this happens outside your country, you will understand my humiliation....believe me this would not have happened to me in my country as we don't have rogues like the one I encountered in Royal Plus in SLS
In any case, if I take my story to the press, please understand that I am not looking for a written apology, but to inform the general public (foreigners) like me to avoid such shops in SLS and not to get humiliated
Leone, if by chance you ever have the opportunity to visit Tokyo (perhaps you already have?), your jaw will just drop at the contrast between Sg & Jp.Leone Fabre wrote: I have had them walk off on me when I go up to them for something. If I ask where such and such is all they do is shrug and walk away.... I find their behaviour rude and intolerable too. Go to pay with cash and the change is just dropped regardless of if your hand is held out or not. By card they just point to where you sign, no comments, no please, no thank you...nothing!!!
Sure don't want to be the one to burst your bubble but when I got here the population was only 2.8 million and everybody was just as rude as they are now. Additionally, they are generally rude to almost everybody as it is just their way (I don't like it either but facts are facts and you cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear). Hasn't stopped any expats from coming here yet. Don't think it will in the future either.Leone Fabre wrote:But I wonder what is going to happen when I hear that the Singapore Government is wanting to increase the population by over 2 million people over the next few years ........ no-one will even want to come here at all if the 'locals ' are going to continue being rude to us.
We are the ones that had to leave our friends and our families and the good lives we had led "back home" to come and work here because there is no-one local that is capable of doing this particular job. We are the ones that are disadvantaged not them!
So rudeness to the Westerners is not necessary or warranted at all.
Cheers, leone !!
I don't think it's directed at Westerners or expats only. As a Chinese local/expat (having lived equal parts of my life in the UK/Singapore), i'm likewise treated the same way. Oddly, I find that the behaviours you've just described to be what I'd encounter in central London too. Move outside of London, to the smaller cities/villages and it's a different story altogether.Leone Fabre wrote:We have had rude behaviour also from other stores when we ask for help .......... even asking for them to explain such and such does not go down well at all.
I find a lot of sales staff either do not care about their job or just do not want to deal with expats. Or should I say Westerners???
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