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Postby ntyj » Sun, 29 Apr 2007 3:30 am

12345 wrote:
ntyj wrote:as for flight roster of a FA.............

ul certainly have a fair share of
turnards(hongkong, jakarta, bangkok, bangalore,etc?)
standbys.....
3-4 days flight pattern(like new zealand,australia,japan,china, india?)
and avg one long flight (europe, states or middle east?) in a month...........

there are FA whom i know earn up to 7k or more a mth...
However mgmt did mention though sometimes ud have better mths but overall income for the year it will still be avg out to abt 3-4k a mth.

thts it!


My gosh...HKG flights are turnaround flights??!!! Meaning the crews will not get to really see and experience HK? :(

Oh btw, have u been 300-ER trained? :) I really think the 300-ERs are very beautiful aircrafts...crews getting to work onboard are really lucky! :) Wat does it take to be trained for business class? Izzit strictly performance based or its standard procedure, i.e. if u are in service for a yr, hence u'll be trained for biz class? Thanks!


erm..hgk are mainly turnards unless u get flights like hkg-san francisco? where ul be able to spend layovers in hongkong =)

ermm..yah...im ER trained.........its beautiful..but not many crews enjoy working in it cos of space constraint....but...i like it arh...cos it feels comfy =)

as for biz class...ul get to train after abt a yr of service....everyone will get to do it.. :)

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Postby RaMz » Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:35 am

sorry to bug into the thread..
ntyj, since you're part of the team, mind explaning about stewards? how's their flight roster like? sorry, still new to this..
thx!

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Postby 12345 » Sun, 29 Apr 2007 1:57 pm

ntyj wrote:
12345 wrote:
ntyj wrote:as for flight roster of a FA.............

ul certainly have a fair share of
turnards(hongkong, jakarta, bangkok, bangalore,etc?)
standbys.....
3-4 days flight pattern(like new zealand,australia,japan,china, india?)
and avg one long flight (europe, states or middle east?) in a month...........

there are FA whom i know earn up to 7k or more a mth...
However mgmt did mention though sometimes ud have better mths but overall income for the year it will still be avg out to abt 3-4k a mth.

thts it!


My gosh...HKG flights are turnaround flights??!!! Meaning the crews will not get to really see and experience HK? :(

Oh btw, have u been 300-ER trained? :) I really think the 300-ERs are very beautiful aircrafts...crews getting to work onboard are really lucky! :) Wat does it take to be trained for business class? Izzit strictly performance based or its standard procedure, i.e. if u are in service for a yr, hence u'll be trained for biz class? Thanks!


erm..hgk are mainly turnards unless u get flights like hkg-san francisco? where ul be able to spend layovers in hongkong =)

ermm..yah...im ER trained.........its beautiful..but not many crews enjoy working in it cos of space constraint....but...i like it arh...cos it feels comfy =)

as for biz class...ul get to train after abt a yr of service....everyone will get to do it.. :)

take care!


Hi! Thanks for ur reply!

So for how long u've been flying with SIA? :) Yup, it has that comfy look. HEhe. So r all ur crew mates looking forward to be A380-trained? :)

Once u're trained for biz class, does that mean u'll be serving biz class from thereon? Or it still depends on allocation? :)

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Postby ntyj » Sun, 29 Apr 2007 5:44 pm

RaMz wrote:sorry to bug into the thread..
ntyj, since you're part of the team, mind explaning about stewards? how's their flight roster like? sorry, still new to this..
thx!


errrrrrrrrrr...any steward here care to share?
haha

i think its abt the same bah...mgmt cant be that unfair right? =p

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Postby ntyj » Sun, 29 Apr 2007 5:47 pm

Hi! Thanks for ur reply!

So for how long u've been flying with SIA? :) Yup, it has that comfy look. HEhe. So r all ur crew mates looking forward to be A380-trained? :)

Once u're trained for biz class, does that mean u'll be serving biz class from thereon? Or it still depends on allocation? :)[/quote]

im still junior...
no im not looking forward to the plane......so bigggggggggggg..........means more passengers.......hehe
i prefer A345!!

it depends on IFS allocation...ul still get to work in economy class..:)

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Postby RaMz » Sun, 29 Apr 2007 7:14 pm

i don't know how the system works..like is there a time where the whole flight is filled with stewardess or there's an allocation of how many max stewards on it? and do you mind letting me know if there are many stewards currently being employed by SIA? sorry if this question sounds ridiculous, this like this have never been discussed before over here :(

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Postby theknees » Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:09 am

RaMz wrote:i don't know how the system works..like is there a time where the whole flight is filled with stewardess or there's an allocation of how many max stewards on it? and do you mind letting me know if there are many stewards currently being employed by SIA? sorry if this question sounds ridiculous, this like this have never been discussed before over here :(


no of course there'll never be a flight with just stewardesses.
the IFS is usually male, because there are more male IFS than females. for CS, it really depends. usually there is a mix of LS and LSS. but there are usually more FSS than FS.

i don't think anyone would actually know the exact number of males employed by SIA now unless they're working in HR.
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Postby 12345 » Mon, 30 Apr 2007 1:11 am

ntyj wrote:Hi! Thanks for ur reply!

So for how long u've been flying with SIA? :) Yup, it has that comfy look. HEhe. So r all ur crew mates looking forward to be A380-trained? :)

Once u're trained for biz class, does that mean u'll be serving biz class from thereon? Or it still depends on allocation? :)


im still junior...
no im not looking forward to the plane......so bigggggggggggg..........means more passengers.......hehe
i prefer A345!!

it depends on IFS allocation...ul still get to work in economy class..:)[/quote]

Oh, u're still junior??? But u really know alot! Hehe. Junior as in like still training or already commenced flying? Wahh, A345 sure good ler...exec economy wor. Only 100+ passengers there... :lol: N the destinations it goes to even more inviting! :lol: :D

So where do the trainees normally go for their SNY flights?

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Postby ntyj » Mon, 30 Apr 2007 1:22 am

ive ever got a flight where the non ranking crew are all FSS!!!

but usually there will be 1 or 2 FS ...

erm..12345...im flying already but still junior arh..
and u must have knowledge bt ur company!! if not how to survive...i still got so muchh to learn..

SNYs get to do 4 flights in total, 2 of each 744 and 777 flights.....mainly hongkong, sydney, narita, delhi, adelaide, seoul, auckland,bangkok-osaka...i forget wad else le.. =p

anyway i thought the training period is realy short...i remember i graduated in 3mths and 1 week time. =)
so for those who think they are underpaid....don be! cos by the 3rd mth of training..ul be doing training flights already..which means got income as well. :p

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Postby theknees » Mon, 30 Apr 2007 1:33 am

ntyj wrote:anyway i thought the training period is realy short...i remember i graduated in 3mths and 1 week time. =)
so for those who think they are underpaid....don be! cos by the 3rd mth of training..ul be doing training flights already..which means got income as well. :p


lol i think SIA's training period is one of the longest are compared to many other airlines. :)
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Postby RaMz » Mon, 30 Apr 2007 5:05 am

theknees wrote:
RaMz wrote:i don't know how the system works..like is there a time where the whole flight is filled with stewardess or there's an allocation of how many max stewards on it? and do you mind letting me know if there are many stewards currently being employed by SIA? sorry if this question sounds ridiculous, this like this have never been discussed before over here :(


no of course there'll never be a flight with just stewardesses.
the IFS is usually male, because there are more male IFS than females. for CS, it really depends. usually there is a mix of LS and LSS. but there are usually more FSS than FS.

i don't think anyone would actually know the exact number of males employed by SIA now unless they're working in HR.


pardon my ignorance, i really cannot digest that post due to many unfamiliar abbreviations used..FSS and FS only sounds familiar..mind explaining what IFS, LS and CS means? thx a million

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Postby ntyj » Mon, 30 Apr 2007 7:28 am

RaMz wrote:
theknees wrote:
RaMz wrote:i don't know how the system works..like is there a time where the whole flight is filled with stewardess or there's an allocation of how many max stewards on it? and do you mind letting me know if there are many stewards currently being employed by SIA? sorry if this question sounds ridiculous, this like this have never been discussed before over here :(


no of course there'll never be a flight with just stewardesses.
the IFS is usually male, because there are more male IFS than females. for CS, it really depends. usually there is a mix of LS and LSS. but there are usually more FSS than FS.

i don't think anyone would actually know the exact number of males employed by SIA now unless they're working in HR.


pardon my ignorance, i really cannot digest that post due to many unfamiliar abbreviations used..FSS and FS only sounds familiar..mind explaining what IFS, LS and CS means? thx a million


RaMz wrote:
theknees wrote:
RaMz wrote:i don't know how the system works..like is there a time where the whole flight is filled with stewardess or there's an allocation of how many max stewards on it? and do you mind letting me know if there are many stewards currently being employed by SIA? sorry if this question sounds ridiculous, this like this have never been discussed before over here :(


no of course there'll never be a flight with just stewardesses.
the IFS is usually male, because there are more male IFS than females. for CS, it really depends. usually there is a mix of LS and LSS. but there are usually more FSS than FS.

i don't think anyone would actually know the exact number of males employed by SIA now unless they're working in HR.


pardon my ignorance, i really cannot digest that post due to many unfamiliar abbreviations used..FSS and FS only sounds familiar..mind explaining what IFS, LS and CS means? thx a million


the ranks onboard goes like this :
IFS- Inflight Supervisor (grey suit)
CS- CHief Steward(dark blue jacket) OR
CS(S)- Chief stewardess(Red kebaya)
LS- Leading Steward(medium blue?=p)
LSS- Leading Stewardess (Green kebaya)
FS- Flight steward (light blue jacket)
FSS- Flight Stewardess (blue kebaya)

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Postby RaMz » Mon, 30 Apr 2007 3:00 pm

thanks ntyj, that seriously explains so many other unanswered stuff.
since this part is getting a little more exciting, i have a few other questions for you if you don't mind?

i assume that the FS & FSS are promoted to higher positions based on seniority? just a little curious, how senior do they expect one to be before they even consider them to get promoted or promotion has nothing to do with seniority? experience? performance?

sorry to keep ya'll bugging, but this is the best place to actually get straight forward answers. thanks again

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Postby jsamills » Tue, 01 May 2007 9:15 pm

now promotion is no longer based on seniority, u never know 1 day yr junior might even promote faster than you.

I think now not comparing airline but even outside, it all boils down to work performances & luck also how u know how to 'wayang' and PR and 'zhuo ren'. Its a lot of factors and not only based on seniority.

some pple juz do not have the luck to be promoted... so quite sad la.. those who are good leaders and good workers, produce wonderful results and always complimented by pax sometime becos they 'choke' during the interview hence lose a promotion chance.

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Postby ntyj » Tue, 01 May 2007 9:34 pm

jsamills wrote:now promotion is no longer based on seniority, u never know 1 day yr junior might even promote faster than you.

I think now not comparing airline but even outside, it all boils down to work performances & luck also how u know how to 'wayang' and PR and 'zhuo ren'. Its a lot of factors and not only based on seniority.

some pple juz do not have the luck to be promoted... so quite sad la.. those who are good leaders and good workers, produce wonderful results and always complimented by pax sometime becos they 'choke' during the interview hence lose a promotion chance.


sorry ramz..i lazy to type. haha. but yah jsamills explained all. =p


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