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car or no car in singapore

Post by ffsgrelier » Tue, 13 Mar 2007 6:12 pm

good morning from sunny London

My little family is due to move to Singapore in 2 weeks time and we were given conflicting advice on whether we would need a car or not while living in Singapore.

We are due to leave near Clarke Quay, have 2 children (aged 7 and 5) and a baba due in a couple of months.

I believe the MRT not to be very child friendly from my readings in guide books and wonder how difficult it would be using public transport with buggy, kids ... I'd really appreciate anyone sharing their experience.

If a car is to be on the cards, what would be the idea propcedure. Renting, leasing , buying ?

Thanks for all your replies.
Frederique

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Cars in Singapore vs taxi's

Post by hamiltongirl » Tue, 13 Mar 2007 8:11 pm

Hi Fredrique,

My opinion is that with 3 kids I would definitely have a car, as opposed to getting the kids in and out of a taxi. If you go in a taxi, you would be holding on to your baby rather than having the safety of a car seat.

The MRT is actually child friendly and it is easy to get about with a pram. I have travelled on the MRT and all the stations I have used so far have lift access. The MRT is very safe also.

The choice is yours!

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Post by rodandhelen » Tue, 13 Mar 2007 8:31 pm

Hi, i have a 7mth baby so have to use a buggy quite alot... Find that some places here are not particuarly buggy friendly!! so ended up buying a baby sarong which is fantastic!
We have a car and find it really helpful especially with the baby!
Although taxis are so easy to catch from anywhere but with 3 children i think it will be quite stressful!! I found it hard enough trying to get one buggy and one baby in a taxi!
Good luck

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Re: car or no car in singapore

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 13 Mar 2007 9:00 pm

ffsgrelier wrote:good morning from sunny London

My little family is due to move to Singapore in 2 weeks time and we were given conflicting advice on whether we would need a car or not while living in Singapore.

We are due to leave near Clarke Quay, have 2 children (aged 7 and 5) and a baba due in a couple of months.

I believe the MRT not to be very child friendly from my readings in guide books and wonder how difficult it would be using public transport with buggy, kids ... I'd really appreciate anyone sharing their experience.

If a car is to be on the cards, what would be the idea propcedure. Renting, leasing , buying ?

Thanks for all your replies.
Frederique
Well, I have done it both ways. I had a car when my first one was born. Really needed a car then as we lived in Seletar Airbase at the time. There was no MRT and Taxi's almost had to be booked to get one to come out there. When my second one was born I lived in the Novena Area and actually sold my car when the 2nd one was only a couple of months old. I found that it was easier without a car (and we're talking 17 years ago) using the MRT. If you buy some of these for the small ones Joeysafe then the taxi's aren't much of a problems either.

The only thing that in not baby friendly in the MRT are the citizens. :oops:

Edited to add: The citizens are getting better I have to admit (at least I like to think that they are citizens - probably not) once you are on the train. I was surprised 2 times this week by seeing someone give up their seats for a toddler carrying adult. Course it was the middle aged persons and not the teenagers who did so.

Frankly, your kids will appreciate it more than having to listen to you bitch and complain about sitting still or being cut off constantly by other road users.

Think I'm kidding?

Good luck with the move.
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Post by one.more.expat » Tue, 13 Mar 2007 9:14 pm

Hi, I have two kids, 5 & 2. Because we live so central, we decided to try it out first with taxis and the MRT. I find the MRT convenient, as I don't have to fold up my stroller all the time, going in and out of taxis. There are lifts in most MRT stations for the strollers, and they are fairly safe. If I do use a taxi (prefer not to), I make use of my Joeysafe harness for my 2 year old. My trick is to keep my door open while strapping my kids in, otherwise, the taxi drivers take off immediately. Because you'll have 3 kids, you may want to consider the car, for convenience sake. Just consider where you'll be living, as in some areas ie: living in central, it's faster taking public transportion, as opposed to being stuck in traffic! Good luck with your move!

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Car or No car ...

Post by Patrick777 » Tue, 13 Mar 2007 9:22 pm

We've got 2 kids a new born and a 3 year old and have no car... The only real time it's a real pain is when it rains as it can be quite hard to get a taxi. If you get a quinny trolley you can clip in a maxi cosi car seat which will get you through the first 6 months.

I guess at times a car could be really handy but then again if you have one it can be a real pain parking centrally. Cars are roughly 1&1/2 to twice the price of the UK new but petrol and running cost are cheap. The second hand market doesn't really exist in the same way over here as the UK and cars values only drops off gradually and not dramatically as in the UK due to something called the COE( a ten year tax). I'd probably recommend trying without to start with and see how you go ... Have a good look around before buying.

For a car .

Flexibilty
Place to store junk when you go shoping
No issues with taxi's in the rain
If you all get in a taxi, 5 people requires a people carrier or larger taxi which the meter starts at 8 dollars which is around three times the price of a normal booked taxi.


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Taxi's are cheap very cheap between 2-3 pounds anywhere central from Clarke Key.
Car prices are high so even leasing isn't particarly cheap as this needs to reflect the purchase price and contracts are normally a min of 2 years as most things in Singapore?
Parking, although most condo's have a free spot central parking isn't cheap and at weekends can be really busy.
Also in town exists alot of ERP zones(charging spots) If you were to use your car alot they slowly start to add up.
Children normally travel to school on a bus picked up at the door of your condo hassle free.
For when you need a car weekend hire isn't expensive around 200 dollars for fri-mon.

The joys just another thing to deal with, I was originally intending to buy a car but got put off by the costs and the fact it'd only get used over the weekend. Please be aware you can get a cheap COE tax for just weekend use which can bring down the costs ...

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Post by one.more.expat » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 8:08 am

Another thing you can consider is the car share they do here. I believe there are two companies that do it. Just google it. It works out to approx $70/day. Quite convenient if you plan to only use it on the weekends, or every so often.

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Post by micknlea » Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:42 am

Wait until you get here and try it all out. You can never tell how it is going to go for you until you try it for yourself. Public transport other than taxi is a pain with strollers etc here though, be prepared for that especially if you are travelling in peak times (pretty much the same as any other big city though).
If you do decide to get a car the decision whether you lease, hire or buy will depend on how long you are here for and what type of car you want etc. Again, a lot easier to decide on once you are here.
Again, don't worry about it until you arrive and settle a bit. There are enough other things to keep you occupied in the meantime I'm sure. :wink:
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Post by ffsgrelier » Thu, 15 Mar 2007 6:50 pm

many thanks to all for your replies.
I believe we will have to bite the bullet , try it all and work it out when we arrive. It is just so hard for me to imagine life in Singapore as I have not been able to travel there yet due to the pregnancy and our 2 children.
I am very much looking forward to the experience and have to admit that if the people are as helpful as the ones like you all on this website, I am sure we'll have a good time.
Thanks for putting my mind a bit more at ease with all the info and the move.
Now . will I dare show my ignorance and ask what a joeysafe is ?
Many thanks again for all your replies.

Frederique x

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Post by rodandhelen » Thu, 15 Mar 2007 7:36 pm

i'd never been to singapore before we moved here, was a little scary and strange at same time, sure you will settle in fine in no time
good luck

Helen

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:22 pm

ffsgrelier wrote: Now . will I dare show my ignorance and ask what a joeysafe is ?
Many thanks again for all your replies.

Frederique x
It's a body restraining device for kids in vehicles. Just click on the the word Joeysafe . It's a hyperlink to their site.
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