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Should US pull out of Iraq?

Yes. Full Withdraw
3
27%
No. Stay until Iraq is stable
5
45%
Too Darn Hard. Its all Bush's Fault
2
18%
Dont Know
1
9%
 
Total votes: 11

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Postby huggybear » Sat, 21 Apr 2007 9:48 am

that is most certainly true with saudi arabia.

however the UAE is making significant strides in advancing / furthering their society. they are a productive member of the global economy and i believe the queen is extremely liberal and has a lot of power in shaping the UAE we know today.

as for pulling out of the region completely and letting them sort it out...seems that will never happen as long as isreal exists...and that's kinda what happened with the 8 year iran / iraq war that ended with everyone losing.

i have no idea what the next step is but i hope that the countries look to the UAE for inspiration...

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Postby ksl » Sat, 21 Apr 2007 2:26 pm

huggybear wrote:that is most certainly true with saudi arabia.

however the UAE is making significant strides in advancing / furthering their society. they are a productive member of the global economy and i believe the queen is extremely liberal and has a lot of power in shaping the UAE we know today.

as for pulling out of the region completely and letting them sort it out...seems that will never happen as long as isreal exists...and that's kinda what happened with the 8 year iran / iraq war that ended with everyone losing.

i have no idea what the next step is but i hope that the countries look to the UAE for inspiration...


The UAE I am familar with for a very long time, long before Dubai was put on the map, I often travelledd across the desert from Sharjah to Abu Dhabi before the roads were built, on occassion getting bogged down or stuck in a sand storm, it was an experience of cross country driving I will never forget, and we were very lucky that I was a capable mechanic at that time, I have fond memories of the dessert nights under the stars, and the coca cola signs and tin sheds, stuck at the top of a relief station wadi, were one would find a sole attendant of a 45 gallon drum of fuel, got lost one or two times, while learning the route! Now what a change!

They used to call the place Trucial Oman States before it was renamed UAE, back in those days it was also quite liberal, I recall a couple of night clubs in Dubai at that time, although too expensive. I only saw one woman in 9 months at that time! But hundreds of Tennant beer cans with models on them!
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Postby ksl » Sat, 21 Apr 2007 2:57 pm

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Postby ututu » Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:33 am

[quote="sundaymorningstaple"][quote="Kurozu"]SMS and KSL,

It seems that Iraqis are dying everyday, and there is no solution in sight. I will sit and pray [-o<

I hope the Democrat will win this coming election even though I think they are just as useless as the Republican.[/quote]

Kurozu,

I hate to be the one to say this but It seems that Iraqis were dying everyday before the US decided to topple that regime. Wasn't a solution in sight then either. It would appear then that nothing has changed. (with the exception that the killings now appear on TV and include more than just Iraqis) Wonder why I never saw the gassing of the Kurds on prime time news when that happened?
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Not sure where were you in 1987, SMS but US Congress was appaled and did pass "Iraq Genocide Act", google it. However as you may guess SH was "our son of bitch" at that time and so Reagan and subsequent Bush Sr. administrations lobbied hard and stalled all the punitive actions calling Congress's reactions "unproductive". After desert storm SH didn't have much ability to gas Shiites or Kurds who were running in pretty autonomous fashion, no fly zones covered absolute majority of Kurdish and Shiites areas so any large movement of troops was noticeable to UK/US and punished swiftly, SH was contained reasonably well and as consequence he wasn't killing much certainly yearly casualties were 2-3 times less than what we see today in the medium level civil war in Iraq with US being a practice target.


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