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Postby TheEnglishman » Tue, 27 Feb 2007 9:59 pm

Hi All,
I am looking at making a permenant move to Singapore but wish to find employment before I reach there, please take a look at my CV and if your interested drop em a line. Thanks everybody :D
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Re: Projec

Postby ksl » Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:37 am

TheEnglishman wrote:Hi All,
I am looking at making a permenant move to Singapore but wish to find employment before I reach there, please take a look at my CV and if your interested drop em a line. Thanks everybody :D
Dave
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Postby TheEnglishman » Thu, 01 Mar 2007 2:38 am

Please use the Classifieds which is Free not the forum threads.

You might care to read this first; http://www.singaporeexpats.com/forum/ftopic39062.html

Please note you need 5 posts before your PM function will work.


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Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 01 Mar 2007 9:27 pm

Might I suggest a couple or three things?

First, you can ask your questions in a general manner that are of interest to the reading audience. Instead of, 'Can anybody give me a job, here is my CV', you might ask, 'Are there any opportunities for a widget salesman in Singapore'.

Second, you provide zero information about what you do. If you are a fry cook you will not be able to work in Singapore. If you are a bio physicist you will be welcomed with open arms. So, a bit of background is essential.

Finally, what is 'Projec'? I have to say that I have no idea... and if it is a spelling error I am inclined to believe you are sloppy... not a good start with potential employers.

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Postby TheEnglishman » Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:07 pm

I appreciate your comments and they are noted, I guess I shall repost my initial question. By the way although, yes, you are correct that it might have been sloppy to make a mistake like that I would like to add sometimes people do things in a rush to get quick feedback. Mine was very much a rush job. So if anyone has seen a mistake on my post I apologise, I hope it doesn't affect prospective employers. My new post shall include all details and backgrounds. Thanking you in advance Strong Eagle

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:29 pm

Englishman,

As both an HR Manager and a former Recruiter/Headhunter with 14 years experience. I would not have even considered looking at your CV. Singapore is looking for "Foreign Talent". One would think that a "Talented" person looking for a job here would go the extra mile to ensure that everything was shipshape BEFORE submitting. Especially seeing spell-checkers are available. After all, you are seeking a job here, we aren't looking for you.

That, and the fact that you obviously did not bother to read the stickies which to me would indicate that you tend to buck authority. Not an endearing quality to a prospective employer would you say?

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Postby TheEnglishman » Fri, 02 Mar 2007 4:12 am

SMS,

Its not a case of bucking authority, this is the first time I have ever been on this forum and I just decided to post a comment. It has been rectified and my questions are within the correct passage now. I know were my expertise lie and thats all I need to say. My initial message may have come across wrong to those who have seen it but its not a comment that should make waves like this. I asked one question and that I have a CV available on request and that is all I have to say on the subject.

Just out of curiousity are you still in HR and what advice do you have, you after all should know what gets you a position with regards to CV's?! I am after help and yes, will except critisism from people who have more experience than me in any given field. Look forward to any type of response.

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Postby Plavt » Fri, 02 Mar 2007 5:53 am

There are those who would tell me I would be better advised to keep my mouth shut but have a look at your English and your spelling. Well done you have just confirmed the views of Strong Eagle and SMS.


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Postby TheEnglishman » Fri, 02 Mar 2007 6:55 am

Jesus, didn't realise everybody was a bloody school teacher in here. I am asking a question, not applying for congress, get over it..... :shock:

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Postby TheEnglishman » Fri, 02 Mar 2007 7:03 am

In fact, why don't you all put your efforts into helping people instead of critisising them. That tends to make somebody a better person instead of an arsehole!!!! :mad: Good bye and good riddens personally. Delete me as you will of this site. :D

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Postby Strong Eagle » Fri, 02 Mar 2007 9:12 am

TheEnglishman wrote:In fact, why don't you all put your efforts into helping people instead of critisising them. That tends to make somebody a better person instead of an arsehole!!!! :mad: Good bye and good riddens personally. Delete me as you will of this site. :D


Dear Englishman,

I don't think anyone is trying to beat you up. However, it is my experience in managing large scale, multi-country projects that the biggest problems I have are as follows:

a) People in a rush who prepare incomplete, sloppy reports that are hard to understand and may not communicate the actual situation. So, I am not criticizing you directly, merely noting that it is important to separate yourself from the run of the mill if your expectations for salary and position are above run of the mill.

b) People with less than stellar communications skills. For many, this is a natural consequence of having English as a second language. This is one reason expats are in strong demand; the ability to communicate clearly to top management of a client. Again, I'm not making a direct criticism, just noting that the expectation would be, because you are English, that your communications skills will be top notch.

c) Inability to take criticism and develop a thick skin. Managing multiple cultures is an art. Some people simply take exception to the fact that a white expat is running the show. Project managers bear ultimate responsibility (and blame) for all aspects of a project, even those beyond their scope of control. An outburst, such as your last posts, would not be the way to handle things. You cannot pick up your marbles and go home. Instead, the key is to smooth the friction.

So, in your shoes, receiving the posts that you did, I might have answered, "Gentlemen, thank you for your criticisms. I shall take them to heart. However, I think you have unfairly tarred and feathered me on the basis of one or two quickly written posts, and I hope that as this thread progesses you will see that your original (mis)conceptions of me are wrong. I do appreciate any and all advice, whether I agree or disagree with it."

As it is your response smacks of a great deal of immaturity and makes we wonder how you would respond in front of a client who just called you a dumb sh*t.

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Postby TheEnglishman » Fri, 02 Mar 2007 9:57 pm

Strong Eagle,
I did say all that and more in my previous posts, I am always willing to accept criticism as I am a firm believer that what doesn't break you can only make you stronger. However, maybe you haven't project managed within the cellular market because no matter what company I have worked for whether it be in the UK, Australia or America, you dont watch your 'P's and Q's' because everybody from that industry generally has come through the same path, as an engineer!! This post needs to be put to bed as i'm bored of it and i'm sure you are. Please dont come back and say i'm a quitter now as that would bore me too. Good luck over there, and goodbye.
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:12 pm

Sounds like the type of talent we don't need. :wave:

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Postby Strong Eagle » Sat, 03 Mar 2007 8:59 am

Like they say in Texas, "Don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out."

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Postby TheEnglishman » Sun, 04 Mar 2007 10:34 pm

Thanks I wont


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