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Re: Call Centre Jobs
Having workers from the neighboring country such as the Philippines for our Call Center Industry is highly appreciated. They give us much of the boost for our economy.sundaymorningstaple wrote:And oddly enough an extremely high percentage of them are mostly from the Philippines. And the rest are from India. But at least having them come here and eventually get PR gives the local gene pool a lift that's badly needed.staryalley wrote:There are many major call centres in Singapore and the range of jobs available is quite wide.. From customer service to telesales to technical support to business development to back office support... Industries that engage Business Process Outsourcing (BPO) providers or call centres if you call it also ranges widely.. From banking & finance to business solutions to travel to F&B and many more..
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Huh? Call centers are leaving Singapore in droves to India, Malaysia, and the Philippines. Cost of labor is to high here, compared to the other countries.carpuff wrote:Having workers from the neighboring country such as the Philippines for our Call Center Industry is highly appreciated. They give us much of the boost for our economy.sundaymorningstaple wrote:And oddly enough an extremely high percentage of them are mostly from the Philippines. And the rest are from India. But at least having them come here and eventually get PR gives the local gene pool a lift that's badly needed.staryalley wrote:There are many major call centres in Singapore and the range of jobs available is quite wide.. From customer service to telesales to technical support to business development to back office support... Industries that engage Business Process Outsourcing (BPO) providers or call centres if you call it also ranges widely.. From banking & finance to business solutions to travel to F&B and many more..
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i am new to this forum and to singapore. Moved in two months ago. Hi to all...
i am new to this forum and to singapore. Moved in two months ago. Hi to all...

Correlation between education and job/salary
Just wondering is it true what I heard there was a strong correlation in Singapore between person`s education and job and salary?
For example master holders get paid more than undergrads, PhDs more than master people etc. All that in case their work experience is comparable more or less and education is the only difference.
In Australia where I am now only experience counts in IT.
I am working in project management and have a long-term plan to move overthere and just started doing a PhD in IT project management. Would it be benefitial there either in pursuing lecturer jobs or getting a better package as a professional? Thanks.
For example master holders get paid more than undergrads, PhDs more than master people etc. All that in case their work experience is comparable more or less and education is the only difference.
In Australia where I am now only experience counts in IT.
I am working in project management and have a long-term plan to move overthere and just started doing a PhD in IT project management. Would it be benefitial there either in pursuing lecturer jobs or getting a better package as a professional? Thanks.
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Re: Correlation between education and job/salary
Don't know about the lecturer job, but it is your track record in large IT projects that brings the bucks. In theory, project management theory reflects reality but in reality those who know the theory still don't know how to manage a project.noskich wrote:Just wondering is it true what I heard there was a strong correlation in Singapore between person`s education and job and salary?
For example master holders get paid more than undergrads, PhDs more than master people etc. All that in case their work experience is comparable more or less and education is the only difference.
In Australia where I am now only experience counts in IT.
I am working in project management and have a long-term plan to move overthere and just started doing a PhD in IT project management. Would it be benefitial there either in pursuing lecturer jobs or getting a better package as a professional? Thanks.
I do large scale infrastructure and managed services implementations. I'd be far more interested in how you manage virtual teams, how you deal with global/regional conflicts, misalignments of goals and processes, failure to handle commercials, putting pressure on recalcitrant suppliers and such. The real world of how ugly projects, poor designs, and people with aggrandized self interest are run as opposed to the textbook frameworks of the ideal project... there are never any ideal IT projects and there never will be.
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Thanks for reply eagle. Agreed, for sure experience is a primary prerequisite, though my question was assuming different candidates have comparable experience would educational level make any difference with regards to the package offered and employment opportunities in Singapore? In Australia it doesn`t.
The reason why I am asking is that I heard education is more valued in Singapore than in Australia (both level and prestige of university) plus I keep finding some information online that support the claim like this here:
http://myjobstreet.jobstreet.com/career ... r||190||sg
Thanks again for your help.
The reason why I am asking is that I heard education is more valued in Singapore than in Australia (both level and prestige of university) plus I keep finding some information online that support the claim like this here:
http://myjobstreet.jobstreet.com/career ... r||190||sg
Thanks again for your help.
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Interesting link. For technical project managers, I think it's about S$1000 per year of experience... I've hired Singapore locals at S$6K to S$8K per month.noskich wrote:Thanks for reply eagle. Agreed, for sure experience is a primary prerequisite, though my question was assuming different candidates have comparable experience would educational level make any difference with regards to the package offered and employment opportunities in Singapore? In Australia it doesn`t.
The reason why I am asking is that I heard education is more valued in Singapore than in Australia (both level and prestige of university) plus I keep finding some information online that support the claim like this here:
http://myjobstreet.jobstreet.com/career ... r||190||sg
Thanks again for your help.
But top project managers make a lot more than that list. If you can mange more than the technicals, and you've been in a global environment, you could expect double what is on that list.
I lost one of my best PM's to a major global company because I was paying him $180K and they offered $240K. I pay people around 35 years of age with 5 to 7 years worth of real experience as much as $10K per month. I make a lot more than any numbers on that chart.
But, these kind of positions are few and far between. You better have some gray hair... you need to be able to build the trust relationship with C level people... a 28 year old guy, even if good, doesn't have the gravitas to talk to a global CIO.
And, you should be prepared for: MNC's only... you'll never get this kind of money out of a Singapore company unless they have so desperately f*cked something up, they need the talent. Witness Starhub for one. Second, you'll need to be on a contract basis to get this kind of money... with some exceptions as a very senior MNC project manager... and third... you know you will work your ass off... you don't get this kind of money for a 9 to 6 job with roses delivered to your desk everyday.
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Strong Eagle wrote:Interesting link. For technical project managers, I think it's about S$1000 per year of experience... I've hired Singapore locals at S$6K to S$8K per month.noskich wrote:Thanks for reply eagle. Agreed, for sure experience is a primary prerequisite, though my question was assuming different candidates have comparable experience would educational level make any difference with regards to the package offered and employment opportunities in Singapore? In Australia it doesn`t.
The reason why I am asking is that I heard education is more valued in Singapore than in Australia (both level and prestige of university) plus I keep finding some information online that support the claim like this here:
http://myjobstreet.jobstreet.com/career ... r||190||sg
Thanks again for your help.
But top project managers make a lot more than that list. If you can mange more than the technicals, and you've been in a global environment, you could expect double what is on that list.
I lost one of my best PM's to a major global company because I was paying him $180K and they offered $240K. I pay people around 35 years of age with 5 to 7 years worth of real experience as much as $10K per month. I make a lot more than any numbers on that chart.
But, these kind of positions are few and far between. You better have some gray hair... you need to be able to build the trust relationship with C level people... a 28 year old guy, even if good, doesn't have the gravitas to talk to a global CIO.
And, you should be prepared for: MNC's only... you'll never get this kind of money out of a Singapore company unless they have so desperately f*cked something up, they need the talent. Witness Starhub for one. Second, you'll need to be on a contract basis to get this kind of money... with some exceptions as a very senior MNC project manager... and third... you know you will work your ass off... you don't get this kind of money for a 9 to 6 job with roses delivered to your desk everyday.
Will SG companies/MNC consider hiring oversea IT project manager (contract basis) who are willing to relocate to Singapore?
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They'll hire anybody... but what recommends you? You've got no network, no history. You are a CV... and unless it is spectacular... well... why you instead of the guy that can come in tomorrow morning for an interview?skkamandy wrote:Strong Eagle wrote:Interesting link. For technical project managers, I think it's about S$1000 per year of experience... I've hired Singapore locals at S$6K to S$8K per month.noskich wrote:Thanks for reply eagle. Agreed, for sure experience is a primary prerequisite, though my question was assuming different candidates have comparable experience would educational level make any difference with regards to the package offered and employment opportunities in Singapore? In Australia it doesn`t.
The reason why I am asking is that I heard education is more valued in Singapore than in Australia (both level and prestige of university) plus I keep finding some information online that support the claim like this here:
http://myjobstreet.jobstreet.com/career ... r||190||sg
Thanks again for your help.
But top project managers make a lot more than that list. If you can mange more than the technicals, and you've been in a global environment, you could expect double what is on that list.
I lost one of my best PM's to a major global company because I was paying him $180K and they offered $240K. I pay people around 35 years of age with 5 to 7 years worth of real experience as much as $10K per month. I make a lot more than any numbers on that chart.
But, these kind of positions are few and far between. You better have some gray hair... you need to be able to build the trust relationship with C level people... a 28 year old guy, even if good, doesn't have the gravitas to talk to a global CIO.
And, you should be prepared for: MNC's only... you'll never get this kind of money out of a Singapore company unless they have so desperately f*cked something up, they need the talent. Witness Starhub for one. Second, you'll need to be on a contract basis to get this kind of money... with some exceptions as a very senior MNC project manager... and third... you know you will work your ass off... you don't get this kind of money for a 9 to 6 job with roses delivered to your desk everyday.
Will SG companies/MNC consider hiring oversea IT project manager (contract basis) who are willing to relocate to Singapore?
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True, I was thinking for a person that wants to transfer from another country but prefers not to risk by quitting the job, moving and looking for a new one on the spot it might be useful to first obtain PEP visa and then take as long as possible leave (couple of months) and try to establish some contacts.Strong Eagle wrote: They'll hire anybody... but what recommends you? You've got no network, no history. You are a CV... and unless it is spectacular... well... why you instead of the guy that can come in tomorrow morning for an interview?
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