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Need some advices regards cadet pilot application

Postby Pilotfancy21 » Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:50 pm

Hi all,

I have some doubts regards cadet pilot application, lets have some introduction about myself:

I had just finished my contract in the Air force, currently holding a engineering diploma and will finish my degree in aerospace by July this year. I had come across the cadet pilot application in the classified and is tempted to apply to fulfill my aspiration as a pilot. But i am in a dilemma now over whether to apply now with a diploma or to wait until i get my aerospace degree to reinforce my chances. I am a person who do not want to fight a unconfident battle as I learnt from some pilot website which stated its better to apply with a degree. On the other hand, i began to probe if i dont apply now, the chances will be slimmer at next recruitment as the quota for cadet pilot will be filled and the demand is not there anymore.

Any bros out there who is also reaching a cross-junction of our life? Pls don't ask me to read other thread as i still have not got an similar answer from this forum. Maybe any pilot wannabes or pilot already in SIA can advice me on that... Thanks a million!!!!!

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Postby Plavt » Tue, 30 Jan 2007 1:54 am

Pilotfancy21,
You have answered your own question; far better to wait until you get your degree; not only will it likely enhance your chances but if something should go amiss and you are unsuccessful then you still have your degree.

Try to take into account that something unexpected may go wrong when you least expect or want it (most pilot's are aware of Murphy's Law). In addition civil airlines can stipulate their own requirements and even your experience in the air-force is not going to guarantee you success anywhere else.

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Postby binka » Sat, 09 Jun 2007 2:20 pm

Where are u Pilotfancy21? Have u applied?

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Re: Need some advices regards cadet pilot application

Postby sQ-StEwaRd-ShazNi » Sat, 09 Jun 2007 2:51 pm

Pilotfancy21 wrote:Hi all,

I have some doubts regards cadet pilot application, lets have some introduction about myself:

I had just finished my contract in the Air force, currently holding a engineering diploma and will finish my degree in aerospace by July this year. I had come across the cadet pilot application in the classified and is tempted to apply to fulfill my aspiration as a pilot. But i am in a dilemma now over whether to apply now with a diploma or to wait until i get my aerospace degree to reinforce my chances. I am a person who do not want to fight a unconfident battle as I learnt from some pilot website which stated its better to apply with a degree. On the other hand, i began to probe if i dont apply now, the chances will be slimmer at next recruitment as the quota for cadet pilot will be filled and the demand is not there anymore.

Any bros out there who is also reaching a cross-junction of our life? Pls don't ask me to read other thread as i still have not got an similar answer from this forum. Maybe any pilot wannabes or pilot already in SIA can advice me on that... Thanks a million!!!!!



Well,only you yourself will know the answer..Well,to be a Cadet Pilot for SQ,they not only look at your grades but your aptitude,whether you are fit to be one of their top 5%..Only that 5%!!!!!So remember that even if you have a degree,it doesn't make a difference if your aptitude is not up to scratch..I'll elave you to think about this on your own because it is your future,not mine...But of course.I would say a degree would just make your resume more atrractive..So I guess going for your degree first is more important,don't worry,SQ is in need of pilots right now..I think SQC is taking in more cadets this time round since the A380's aren't here yet,so they need some more F/Os to fly the 747s..I'd rather wait that extra month to get a degree rather than rushing into an interview which I'm half decided of.. :wink:

Well on a friendly note,you have only two tries for the 1st interview and only 1 chance when you proceed on to the next rounds.. :wink: :wink:
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Re: Need some advices regards cadet pilot application

Postby Plavt » Sat, 09 Jun 2007 4:55 pm

sQ-StEwaRd-ShazNi wrote:
so they need some more cadets to fly the 747s..


Since when did a cadet fly a 747? :shock: :roll:

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Postby RaMz » Sat, 09 Jun 2007 5:10 pm

they're trained on the 777 upon learjet phase in maroochydore..
i don't remember any cadet being trained on the 747 upon completing learjet phase..anyone care to clarify?

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Postby Plavt » Sat, 09 Jun 2007 5:28 pm

RaMz wrote:they're trained on the 777 upon learjet phase in maroochydore..
i don't remember any cadet being trained on the 747 upon completing learjet phase..anyone care to clarify?


I can't speak for first-officers but captains need a number of years experience. In Britain and many other countries you are unlikely to see a 747 captain below the age of around 50. Jencrs, where are you?

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Postby sQ-StEwaRd-ShazNi » Sat, 09 Jun 2007 9:45 pm

Plavt wrote:
sQ-StEwaRd-ShazNi wrote:
so they need some more cadets to fly the 747s..


Since when did a cadet fly a 747? :shock: :roll:


I mean,once the cadet becomes a F/O..(In this case I am referring to cadets employed by Singapore Airlines Cargo (SQC) ) Sorry :)

Cadets operate on the learjet in Jandakot..Yes,they don't operate the 747s but once they get their CPL/IR,they'll know which type of plane they are trained to operate in..In this case if they get a 747..F/Os only..

In Singapore,if you started your training when you are 26 yrs old,you should be a FO when you are 29-30..A captain when you are maybe 38..I don't know but if you fly a wide body a/c compared to a narrow body a/c you get more pay..
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Postby sQ-StEwaRd-ShazNi » Sat, 09 Jun 2007 9:56 pm

RaMz wrote:they're trained on the 777 upon learjet phase in maroochydore..
i don't remember any cadet being trained on the 747 upon completing learjet phase..anyone care to clarify?


Sorry I meant when they become F/Os..Sorry for the misleading info..
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Postby jencrs » Sun, 10 Jun 2007 6:03 am

Plavt wrote:Jencrs, where are you?
Back! Sorry for being MIA for the past few days - tough roster.

Cadets may be trained on the 747-400s right after the learjet phase, but in recent times it's just on the Cargo fleet. SIA is slowly winding down the 747-400s from the main fleet, so I haven't seen any cadets training on them in the main fleet. During this training phase (called line training), these chaps are actually no longer cadets but Second Officers. During each training flight, there at least a Captain and a First Officer with the Second officer. Of course, they don't jump straight into the aircraft for training. First there will be a conversion course which includes ground school, simulator training and a base check (basically a test in the simulator) before proceeding for line training.

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Re: Need some advices regards cadet pilot application

Postby visitor » Fri, 22 Jun 2007 9:24 pm

sQ-StEwaRd-ShazNi wrote:
Plavt wrote:
sQ-StEwaRd-ShazNi wrote:
so they need some more cadets to fly the 747s..


Since when did a cadet fly a 747? :shock: :roll:


I mean,once the cadet becomes a F/O..(In this case I am referring to cadets employed by Singapore Airlines Cargo (SQC) ) Sorry :)

Cadets operate on the learjet in Jandakot..Yes,they don't operate the 747s but once they get their CPL/IR,they'll know which type of plane they are trained to operate in..In this case if they get a 747..F/Os only..

In Singapore,if you started your training when you are 26 yrs old,you should be a FO when you are 29-30..A captain when you are maybe 38..I don't know but if you fly a wide body a/c compared to a narrow body a/c you get more pay..


ooops some errors here..

Cadets fly the C172 and Beechcraft Baron in Jandakot, where they'll graduate with a CPL/IR.
The learjet is flown in Maroochydore.
Fleet assignment I believe is only done upon return from Maroochydore.

If you are a Silkair cadet, once you finish your training in Jandakot, you'll go straight to the A320 conversion, thereby skipping the Learjet phase.

Not including the cargo guys, there were people who went straight from Learjet to the 744, but it wouldn't make sense now. It also wouldn't make sense to assign cadets to 345 bec they would be severely short of sectors, so 777 is the way to go, at least until the 330s come into the picture.


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