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A technology that reduces overseas call fees

Postby yoongkheong » Sun, 21 Jan 2007 2:32 am

Hi everyone,

Wonder if you have heard of this satellite technology modem, which can allow you to call to your family overseas at a cheaper price then when used with a normal phone.

And if both parties have this modem, the call would be free. It is a technology breakthrough.

I chanced upon this gadget a couple of weeks ago. Heard good testimonials about it. Cool Stuff. (PM me if u want to know more)

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Postby lost_canuck » Sun, 21 Jan 2007 9:44 am

yeah it's called MSN messenger or Skype, totally free download online as long as you have broadband, you can buy usb phones for like $10, hook up family and you are off

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Postby ScoobyDoes » Sun, 21 Jan 2007 3:31 pm

Hardly rocket science.

In addition to Skype we installed "boxes" in all our offices more than a year ago that connects phone-to-phone.

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Postby ksl » Sun, 21 Jan 2007 4:09 pm

lost_canuck wrote:yeah it's called MSN messenger or Skype, totally free download online as long as you have broadband, you can buy usb phones for like $10, hook up family and you are off


I don't believe any of the above communications work over satellite!

And I think you need more hardware than just a satellite modem, for communication transmissions.

Satellite internet is very expensive indeed, and most can only recieve, to have duplex communication, would cost a small fortune! I don't think the cost of setup justifies, the free calling over satellite communications. Although I may well be wrong!

It would actually be great if it was availble, becuase your mobile phone would be able to tap into the system, at present mobile data transmission is not cheap.

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Postby Plavt » Sun, 21 Jan 2007 4:57 pm

ksl wrote:I don't believe any of the above communications work over satellite!



From what I can find on the search engines it seems you are right. Although I use Skype MSN and yahoo messenger services which I find very good.

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Re: A technology that reduces overseas call fees

Postby Plavt » Sun, 21 Jan 2007 5:37 pm

yoongkheong wrote:Hi everyone,

Wonder if you have heard of this satellite technology modem, which can allow you to call to your family overseas at a cheaper price then when used with a normal phone.

And if both parties have this modem, the call would be free. It is a technology breakthrough.

I chanced upon this gadget a couple of weeks ago. Heard good testimonials about it. Cool Stuff. (PM me if u want to know more)


What exactly are you referring to? Posters have assumed you mean Skype, MSN or Yahoo messenger but you yourself have not said. Why would would somebody want to PM you for technology that provides free phone calls when there the three aforementioned available?

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Postby yoongkheong » Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:47 pm

Haha,

Yup its not Skype as well. It works by rerouting your calls via satellite means to a station in UK and then to your call destination. This way calling costs is cut down.

Do not advertise in the forum threads; if you wish to sell something use the classifieds section which is free


http://classifieds.singaporeexpats.com


edited by Plavt.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:04 am

Sorry ksl, but I have to take the wind from your sails. Both Net2phone & Vonage are entering the arena. To save costs, these providers have teamed up with large satellite companies Hughes Electronics and SkyFrames. :oops: :wink:

http://www.satsig.net/ivsat.htm

http://www.highspeedsat.com/satellite-voip.htm

http://www.thedigest.com/articles/157/10.html

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Postby ksl » Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:59 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Sorry ksl, but I have to take the wind from your sails. Both Net2phone & Vonage are entering the arena. To save costs, these providers have teamed up with large satellite companies Hughes Electronics and SkyFrames. :oops: :wink:

http://www.satsig.net/ivsat.htm

http://www.highspeedsat.com/satellite-voip.htm

http://www.thedigest.com/articles/157/10.html


:D I was aware that it was being worked on, but I still believe it is out of reach of local consumers, to expensive :P still sailing along and waiting for cheaper phone calls
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I still belive it to be more expensive then normal adsl, and i would have thought fibre optic communication would have taken precedence, over satillite,,can you confirm!

Although the infrastructure is not yet finished in many Countries, UK for example have along way to get the fibre optic to the doorstep.

It does make sense for the VOIP to join forces for satellite, although at over 99 Euro a month, is still expensive, some places in OZ i believe have been using it for a couple of years.

Net2phone, I know very well, met them at Computex in Taiwan in 2000, they had reasonable VOIP at that time, I believe it used to be a Taiwanese owned Company, that eventually moved headquarters to the US. I just visited the website, but couldn't find anything on satellite transmission.

The voiceline package is a pretty cool, and i guess this is maybe, what the OP is on about, but I don't think it is over satellite, maybe the OP can enlighten us, a little :???:

Becuase the monthly satellite rates are stll pretty hefty, ok for businesses though, if they have heavy usage, although not the cheapest method.
A couple of grandstream 486 boxes, will do the job, most efficiently, I name grandstream, only because they have been voted the best by a VOIP forum, the 486 is old hat these days, 2 or 3 years old. Now there are many brand names on the market, that can do the same job.

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Postby bigfilsing » Mon, 22 Jan 2007 2:59 pm

Haven't Sat phone services been around for ages? Isn;t that what 019 and the like are??

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Postby ksl » Mon, 22 Jan 2007 3:46 pm

bigfilsing wrote:Haven't Sat phone services been around for ages? Isn;t that what 019 and the like are??



Yes sat phones have been around for a very long time, although SAT phones for VOIP over internet, is about 3 years, old, I think,(not sure) that the outback in Australia, was used as a testing area, for sat internet, and VOIP, to towns, that were unreachable, although the cost was very high.

They also did teaching over the internet by SAT to kids, that had no access to schools. Net2phone, I believe was the main contributor of their application, back in 2000 I used it to phone UK from Taiwan at the Expo, it worked very well then, so I guess they have come along way by now!

Of course it's got to be superior to skype and hotmail, which it is by far, otherwise, they wouldn't be able to sell to the business world, the cost is in the dedicated bandwidth I believe, along with optical transmission lines and switching gear. I was reading on the Net2phone website, that, they were supposed to be taken over by IDT, although would still be calling themselves net2phone.

Any person can sign up and start selling in their own busness name, it's very profitable, if you can bring in the larger accounts from businesses, and maybe even residential accounts, can now compete, with free calls, to those that have the same application, the good thing is that you can take your own number where ever you like in the world, and calls will be redirected to that number, it's useful.

There are also many players in this arena, many are MLM companies, that are scamming the consumers, offering very cheap calls, the problems are big, because they don't have the infrastructure in place, and cannot deliver what they promise, they normally wind up after a couple of years and start again, under a different brand, also offering SAT comms. Net2phone is the most successful, that i know of.

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try this!

Postby sheer » Wed, 24 Jan 2007 2:15 pm

maybe you can try this.. happen to came across this interesting product recently called CallBack Suite. Was introduced by my business associates previously. Basically, we can make local and international calls and the charges are very reasonable. it works better if u are holding on a free incoming call mobile plan.. Quite easy to get hold of how the entire thing work.
Now I used it for personal too because the charges are really good esp if u are a long winded person like me.. take a read on it.. hope its something u looking for.. http://globalroam.com/consumer/overview.html

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Re: try this!

Postby ksl » Wed, 24 Jan 2007 9:34 pm

sheer wrote:maybe you can try this.. happen to came across this interesting product recently called CallBack Suite. Was introduced by my business associates previously. Basically, we can make local and international calls and the charges are very reasonable. it works better if u are holding on a free incoming call mobile plan.. Quite easy to get hold of how the entire thing work.
Now I used it for personal too because the charges are really good esp if u are a long winded person like me.. take a read on it.. hope its something u looking for.. http://globalroam.com/consumer/overview.html
Your not allowed to advertise! Callback as been around a long time, and are mostly MLM companies scamming new clients.

Although this may not be MLM it is not cheap either, when you add your connection fees

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Postby teeoff » Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:21 pm

i heard about this company before seems like not very stable. i have a friend who is also doing this and using their service. from what i heard their customer service and technical service are not that satisfactory.

He is considering switching to a more established company. that company is....................... i can't name it i guess or else i will be mistaken for trying to advertise here.

maybe a hint moderator? is it ok?

here goes: the company tried to make an acquistion of one of the internet providers in Singapore months ago but failed to. its in the headlines and news.

Moderator: please edit if i have offended forum rules. thanks.....

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Postby sheer » Thu, 25 Jan 2007 3:17 pm

so sorry if its identified as advertising.. i just started to try out this kinda service so i thought of sharing and was also hoping if i can get some feedback or comments. thanks teeoff..

however, as far as i know, there is no subscription charges of the current one that im using. btw, any recommendations for better service around the region?


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