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Post by sniper968 » Mon, 05 Feb 2007 2:29 pm

Yeah, maybe. I took the bus to Serangoon on Saturday night. It was empty when I got on- but when it reached Little India- omg- it filled up like mince in a German sausage. But the pple were friendly at least cf with a busload of drunk Year 11 students or a beachload of drunks at Cronella.

And so far I haven't seen an ethnic gang rampaging down the main street with samurai swords and baseball clubs. I've seen that happen at Swanston Street on a Sunday morning. The police usually turn up an hour later- the press also show up too- but somehow consider the news too boring to report.

I don't know what the situation is like here- but there are parts of Sydney where its simply no go if you're not part of the ethnic group living there - ie Redfern, Lakamba.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 05 Feb 2007 6:16 pm

sniper968 wrote: And so far I haven't seen an ethnic gang rampaging down the main street with samurai swords and baseball clubs. I've seen that happen at Swanston Street on a Sunday morning. The police usually turn up an hour later- the press also show up too- but somehow consider the news too boring to report.
I have, albeit quite a few years ago (when I was still the heavy drinking sort) so used to go around to areas where the fun was. There may be a few on this board who will remember places like the Sembawang Strip and the old Boots & Saddles cub in Sembawang. I had a friend killed out there by a gang of youths of the predominate race here who set upon him at a bus stop with chungkels, rebar and poles and literally beat him to death. I've also seen gang style confrontations outside the old Offshore Land Club that used to be at the top of the Anson Building. And lets not forget the marauding Kiwi military of yesteryear who literally tore up the original 392 club that sat where the shopping centre next to OT now stands. The NZ SP's were always busy as those boy sure looked for fights. For the most part it doesn't happen that often anymore. Although you do read about the occasional murder outside of some of the clubs but usually these are ethnic clubs and the fights are amongst their own kind.

But, no, I've never seen direct mob type of rampaging as you are referring to (the Kiwi armed forces when stationed here were pretty close though) ksl may well remember these things as well as he was here back in those days as well when he was in the military.

While they don't rampage as such, you would do well to stay out of their respective turfs to say the least.
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Post by ksl » Tue, 06 Feb 2007 4:57 am

But, no, I've never seen direct mob type of rampaging as you are referring to (the Kiwi armed forces when stationed here were pretty close though) ksl may well remember these things as well as he was here back in those days as well when he was in the military.
I remember the days of the pink pussy cat,Tiger Bar and the Barbarella Club which wasn't far from the Hilton.

Although we used to start out at the Brit Club across from Raffles, Drinking at Bugis st started around midnight, when they cleared all the market, this was about the wildest place I'd ever seen, absolutely crowded with troops from Oz, Maoris, Americans on R&R from Nam, kaitais and hookers, it was quite a good time, with some disgusting things going on, we could see the rats scuttling on the roof tops.

The bars and night clubs were very good, live sex shows in private houses, it was quite a site for a 21 year old.

Bugis was often raided by the police and MP's they would try to block everyone escaping, but they was always outnumbered.

Quite alot of drugs around at that time, never really mixed much with the locals. I guess the worst was when the navy arrived for drunkenness. It was really Sin City back then, with a vibrance wherever you went.

I never so any brawling with locals, it was always between the soldiers really, it's a way of life, that I always tried to avoid, although its kind of difficult at times. I can remember the rich kids used to race cars late at night, and the gangs and pimps were every place.

Although last year while in town, their was a gang of locals, trying to pick a fight with some American expat, I don't think it happens often, although these Karate/Tai -kwan- do types like to demonstrate their moves in front of the gang, prestige and peer pressure and all that crap, better to avoid it. It can happen any place in the world though.

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Post by huggybear » Tue, 06 Feb 2007 7:32 am

KSL...that party is still going on...it's now in pattaya and in manila...

as for these gang of locals. they're so small and tiny...even tho they're a gang...can a tough street fighter grown up from on the mean streets of detroit fight through it? i'm about 3x the avg singaporean male ....

anyways...back to the crux of the forum...does anyone else find random steps in random areas? i'll be walking and will miss this random step and almost fall over and kill myself.

also interesting ... do people really only buy one small beer at the grocery store? in the states you can buy one can of beer ... but it's a 40 oz an usually pretty crappy beer...

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Post by ksl » Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:10 am

also interesting ... do people really only buy one small beer at the grocery store? in the states you can buy one can of beer ... but it's a 40 oz an usually pretty crappy beer...
Never ever have I purchased one beer in a grocery, Minimum is 3 large 11.6% they really make me sleep by 4 am, although if I can get away with it I'll get 6 at the weekend, and a couple of normal beers for the wife ( Knowing she will only have a glass, but it's the thought that counts)

Actually I don't really drink that much anymore, I guess its once a month I'll get a six pack, and it depends on my mood, if I finish them all off or not.

The beer interferes with my weight watching :( these days, so it's down to a minimum, now that I'm on a fat burn program.

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Post by 2die4 » Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:21 pm

for me... i have several:

first is lack of courtesy... especially the younger generation...

i take the bus so i see things like this everyday, even if they see old people, mothers with kids, and pregnant women... they just couldn't care less!

another lack of courtesy, is they don't even say "thank you", "sorry" or "excuse me"... it's so disheartening if i may say so... it's not that i expect them to kiss my feet more so my @$$... but at least show some respect and courtesy to others...

another one in hawker centers, even when people are still eating uncles and aunties are already cleaning and clearing the table, which for me is not very nice, plus other people can still sit with your group if the table still has some extra seats...

what else? the rice in fast foods! oh man! on my first week here went to KFC to order 2 pieces of chicken with rice only to find out they offer no rice! haha...

one more thing they just can't seem to understand words...
especially if u pronounce very well...
but if u try not to pronounce it as it should be... kaboom! they know it!

those are the first few things i experienced here... i'll add some in this list soon...
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Post by huggybear » Wed, 14 Feb 2007 7:19 am

2die4 wrote:it's not that i expect them to kiss my feet more so my @$$... but at least show some respect and courtesy to others...
you don't expect them to kiss your feet but you expect them 2die4 u? :o

2die4 wrote:what else? the rice in fast foods! oh man! on my first week here went to KFC to order 2 pieces of chicken with rice only to find out they offer no rice! haha...
I don't understand. In the USA (the birthplace of KFC), they don't serve rice with chicken either...mashed potatoes is the starch they give you...or the buttermilk biscuit.
2die4 wrote:one more thing they just can't seem to understand words... especially if u pronounce very well...
but if u try not to pronounce it as it should be... kaboom! they know it!
i know where you're coming from. they don't speak "american" english, but they are speaking english...just a regional dialect. I don't seem to understand what the hell scottish people or irish people are saying either but some have told me that they in fact are speaking english. anyways, here I'll say do you know where "Zook" is? and they'll stare at me like i'm speaking Swahili. then i'll ask, "how about zooooo uk?" and they'll be, "oh, it's across the street."

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Post by germangirl » Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:25 am

2die4 wrote:for me... i have several:

i take the bus so i see things like this everyday, even if they see old people, mothers with kids, and pregnant women... they just couldn't care less!

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I have seen the opposite thing in mrt.... people stant up to offer their seats to the old or pregnant women, i saw it ia couple of times and think it is great. don't see that as often in germany....
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Post by 2die4 » Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:51 am

germangirl wrote:
2die4 wrote:for me... i have several:

i take the bus so i see things like this everyday, even if they see old people, mothers with kids, and pregnant women... they just couldn't care less!

...
I have seen the opposite thing in mrt.... people stant up to offer their seats to the old or pregnant women, i saw it ia couple of times and think it is great. don't see that as often in germany....
in the Philippines it's normal for us to do that...

but here, sorry to say this, but most of the younger locals don't do it anymore... most of the time the expats do it...
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Post by germangirl » Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:05 am

2die4 wrote:
I have seen the opposite thing in mrt.... people stant up to offer their seats to the old or pregnant women, i saw it ia couple of times and think it is great. don't see that as often in germany....
in the Philippines it's normal for us to do that...

but here, sorry to say this, but most of the younger locals don't do it anymore... most of the time the expats do it...[/quote]

well, actually, it were "older" people who were standing up, now that you mention it... not the young, that's true !
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Post by saint73 » Thu, 15 Feb 2007 9:52 pm

Singapore Fight of the Generation
Old brute vs young punk.

Happened at on bus 23 at a bus stop outside Sim Lim Square, 10 Feb 2007, 2.30pm.


There must be some pushing and shoving inside the bus, just before the bus stopped. :roll:

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In the world everywhere also got Fighting... :lol: :mrgreen: [-X

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Post by Asian_Geekette » Sat, 17 Feb 2007 9:00 am

2die4 wrote:
in the Philippines it's normal for us to do that...

but here, sorry to say this, but most of the younger locals don't do it anymore... most of the time the expats do it...
When I went around Singapore (Christmas time 2006) with my friend and 14-month old godson, I saw people offering their seats to my friend and the kid. But it's usually the older people (not younger than 30) who did that. But there was this lady who even helped us carry the pram up a few flights of stairs (we can't locate the lift/elevator in that MRT station).

Hey 2die4, when do you plan on taking a vacation back here (PH)? I just got another email (from regional office) telling me that they'll send me off to Sg for a week next month (after a week in Indonesia). :)
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Post by ralph » Sat, 17 Feb 2007 11:59 am

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MissMotivated wrote:haha yes - that's the thing I find most frustrating...

I find the seeming in-ability of shop assistants to think outside the box at all incredibly frustrating. Trying to buy some underwear in la senza the sign said "2 for $40, single prices as marked" The price on each piece said "original price $29.95, sale price $20" So I wanted to buy 3, thinking $60. But NO.. despite being marked at $20, (not 2 for $40) the SA refused to sell me 3 for $60.. she was dead set it'd be $69.95.. :roll: This sort of thing has happened a lot and just winds me up.. I guess eventually I'll get used to it!

Yeah I've had my patience stretched by this inflexibility too.


Go to any fast food joint - Maccas, Burger King, Mos Burger, and ask for any drink with no ice. 9 out of 10 times they will put ice in, purely out of reflex, even though they may have even repeated your order with no ice.


That's not including their inablility to understand different accents or proper English.


I find I have to write down what I want. Usually on my mobile as a sms- just hand it over for them to read.


Then I watch them as they ignore what you say and yell out to them as they do the wrong thing. :cool:


As for trains and the inconsiderate buggers storming in before anyone can get out- I have decided to use my size and just walk straight out- people just bounce off me if they cant get out of my way fast enough. :twisted:

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Post by 2die4 » Sat, 17 Feb 2007 6:26 pm

Asian_Geekette wrote:
2die4 wrote:
in the Philippines it's normal for us to do that...

but here, sorry to say this, but most of the younger locals don't do it anymore... most of the time the expats do it...
When I went around Singapore (Christmas time 2006) with my friend and 14-month old godson, I saw people offering their seats to my friend and the kid. But it's usually the older people (not younger than 30) who did that. But there was this lady who even helped us carry the pram up a few flights of stairs (we can't locate the lift/elevator in that MRT station).

Hey 2die4, when do you plan on taking a vacation back here (PH)? I just got another email (from regional office) telling me that they'll send me off to Sg for a week next month (after a week in Indonesia). :)
hahaha... don't know yet... i was planning to go back this holy week... but i decided otherwise... maybe around May...

I'm planning to go back to the US this summer... coz my student visa expires by july so gotta get the most out of it... so maybe after that i'll go back to the philippines... :wink:
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Post by Asian_Geekette » Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:29 am

2die4 wrote: hahaha... don't know yet... i was planning to go back this holy week... but i decided otherwise... maybe around May...

I'm planning to go back to the US this summer... coz my student visa expires by july so gotta get the most out of it... so maybe after that i'll go back to the philippines... :wink:
You're sure you want to go back on election month (May)? There'd be the political circus going on and the various political propaganda stuff posted all over the country.

I wonder how is Singapore during their national elections.
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