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Tenant legal rights

Post by ksl » Wed, 15 Nov 2006 1:33 am

Is there any at all in Singapore?

Our landlord/agent sent a letter to increase the rent in june 2006, although we refused to pay it, because no rental increase was in the contract, however we are expecting the increase in December when the contract runs out, although they are trying to double what they quoted in the letter in june.

The kitchen i built myself, because there wasn't one, and the place was supposed to be furnished, it was when we moved in two years ago, furnished with other property owners furniture.

They the agents have taken most of the furniture out, as and when required, before the other property owners found out, there furniture was missing, the agents have also lost our contract and their own conveniently over a year ago, so when they tried to raise the rental in june, i told them to get stuffed, we wouldn't be paying.

Now they are trying to double, there loss, i guess, but I'm not having it, and i don't intend to move so easy either, well not without causing a lot of shit that is.

I don't mind excepting the rental they tried to hit us with in june, and i have the letter to prove it, but no way, will i pay double amount, to make up for, what they first wanted us to pay, but couldn't enforce it.

They can take me to court I guess, i'd like to have my famous moment!

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Re: Tenant legal rights

Post by hei guess what » Wed, 15 Nov 2006 5:17 pm

ksl wrote: the agents have also lost our contract and their own conveniently over a year ago
Does that mean that no one currently has a signed copy of the contract? How about photocopies? Not much anyone can do if there isn't a copy somewhere . . .

By the way, the Consumers Association of Singapore (CASE)'s statistics lists Real Estate as one of the top industries for filed cases in disputes covered by the Consumer Protection (Fair Trading) Act.

http://www.case.org.sg/development.htm

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Post by ksl » Thu, 16 Nov 2006 2:10 am

hei guess what wrote:
ksl wrote: the agents have also lost our contract and their own conveniently over a year ago
Does that mean that no one currently has a signed copy of the contract? How about photocopies? Not much anyone can do if there isn't a copy somewhere . . .

By the way, the Consumers Association of Singapore (CASE)'s statistics lists Real Estate as one of the top industries for filed cases in disputes covered by the Consumer Protection (Fair Trading) Act.

http://www.case.org.sg/development.htm
Thanks! No the agent lost both contracts, no copies, but it doesn't really matter, we have been in the property 23 month, they tried to raise the rent in june, however we refused to except the raise, because we know what was in the contract, and no mention of rent increase was listed. Now its kind of blackmail doubling what they first tried to get away with in June, so that they have the last laugh I guess. But stuff em! they can take me to court, or except, what they tried to raise the rent by in June, which was 100$ a month extra. I can live with that, but know way will i give them 200$ for the next contract, and yes, I do know, if they evict me, they can then increase the rent by what they want.

But there must be some fair play in the middle for the tenant, when we are on local income, not expat package.
These things are sent to test us i guess!

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Post by Matney » Fri, 17 Nov 2006 5:54 am

Just read that CASE does not deal with landlord and tenant cases. Bummer!

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Re: Tenant legal rights

Post by SgExpat » Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:50 am

ksl wrote:Thanks! No the agent lost both contracts, no copies, but it doesn't really matter, we have been in the property 23 month, they tried to raise the rent in june, however we refused to except the raise, because we know what was in the contract, and no mention of rent increase was listed. Now its kind of blackmail doubling what they first tried to get away with in June, so that they have the last laugh I guess. But stuff em! they can take me to court, or except, what they tried to raise the rent by in June, which was 100$ a month extra. I can live with that, but know way will i give them 200$ for the next contract, and yes, I do know, if they evict me, they can then increase the rent by what they want.

But there must be some fair play in the middle for the tenant, when we are on local income, not expat package.
These things are sent to test us i guess!
Well,didnt u have your tenancy agreement stamped at IRAS? If u the legal tenant, then I do not think they can pull a fast one on you.

How much is your monthly rental anyway? Asking for $200 extra means doubling your rental, so is your rental just $200 now? You renting a room and now a whole place right? Sounds quite confusing.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 19 Nov 2006 1:09 pm

SgExpats wrote:
ksl wrote:Thanks! No the agent lost both contracts, no copies, but it doesn't really matter, we have been in the property 23 month, they tried to raise the rent in june, however we refused to except the raise, because we know what was in the contract, and no mention of rent increase was listed. Now its kind of blackmail doubling what they first tried to get away with in June, so that they have the last laugh I guess. But stuff em! they can take me to court, or except, what they tried to raise the rent by in June, which was 100$ a month extra. I can live with that, but know way will i give them 200$ for the next contract, and yes, I do know, if they evict me, they can then increase the rent by what they want.

But there must be some fair play in the middle for the tenant, when we are on local income, not expat package.
These things are sent to test us i guess!
Well,didnt u have your tenancy agreement stamped at IRAS? If u the legal tenant, then I do not think they can pull a fast one on you.

How much is your monthly rental anyway? Asking for $200 extra means doubling your rental, so is your rental just $200 now? You renting a room and now a whole place right? Sounds quite confusing.
SingaporeExpats,

If you are going to try to represent this board with your nick. At least have the courtesy to actually read the posts before attempting to answer.

You are the one that's confused. ksl indicated that his rental increase was to be $100 in june (without it being written in the original contract). Now they want to double it to $200. Where is the confusion?

I think it's time you got off of daddy's computer before he gets home from playing golf and catches you.
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Post by SgExpat » Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:41 am

I think it's time you got off of daddy's computer before he gets home from playing golf and catches you.
Am not trying to represent any board, not sure what u meant by that.

And if somehow or rather I am confuse whether he is taking a room rental or a whole unit rental like myself, is there anything wrong if I ask him/her for a clarification?

And by the way, my nick/ID is SingaporeExpats because i am one, now its change to SgExpats without my knowledge or permission, can the moderator pls kindly update me and let me know what ID to log in to this website from now on? I am totally confuse here.

By the way, I am using my own DeskTop, and my Dad aint here in this planet anymore. :x

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Post by ksl » Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:48 pm

SgExpat wrote:
I think it's time you got off of daddy's computer before he gets home from playing golf and catches you.
Am not trying to represent any board, not sure what u meant by that.

And if somehow or rather I am confuse whether he is taking a room rental or a whole unit rental like myself, is there anything wrong if I ask him/her for a clarification?

And by the way, my nick/ID is SingaporeExpats because i am one, now its change to SgExpats without my knowledge or permission, can the moderator pls kindly update me and let me know what ID to log in to this website from now on? I am totally confuse here.

By the way, I am using my own DeskTop, and my Dad aint here in this planet anymore. :x
actually they attempted to raise the rental by 100$ in June, but failed because we refused to pay on the grounds of the initial contract rental fixed for two years, with no mention of a rent increase. So now they try to double the increase to 200$ and i will only except the 100$, which is in the letter they sent in June. It's a full 3 bedroom apartment not room.

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Post by SgExpat » Mon, 20 Nov 2006 2:02 pm

I guess the owner is just riding on the wave on raising property prices and rental increases which is reported in the newspaper frequently.

good luck on your nego. with the landlord.

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Post by kiwileon » Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:23 pm

So, can anyone answer the original question, which is what are the tenants rights in Singapore?

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