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Postby cleopatrikke » Tue, 14 Nov 2006 5:13 pm

hi silvia,

hows your jobhunting so far? Just to share an experience, I received a call from one of the big companies here asking me to come over for an interview but when they found out that I'm not a PR they told me that they're only taking pr or singaporean for the position so we ended up the conversation. However after a while I called the hr again and express my eagerness to take that job and to join them so i asked if there's any way that I can pursue my application with them. To make it short they asked me to come over and for the job they offered me something else which turns out to be better and more suitable for me. I just hope it would pursue as it'll still be available by december.Ì I am crossing my fingers on that.

I don't know how this would help anyone here but apparently everyone knows that it pays to become persistent. Gear yourselves with this attitude. Goodluck!!Ì

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Postby LaoTa » Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:09 pm

Aww comon. Quit complainin! There are so many foreigners working in Singapore. How izzit you can't crack the job market here whilst countless others have made it thru is puzzling. There are even many from Third World European countries like Poland, Hungary, Bulg, Czechs, Ukraine etc. who made their way here.

Once you have settled down here, the lifestyle here kind of infects you. You can say its a Singapore contagion, it spread over the globe in a spotty manner, something you may want to intro back home or other places. Weird huh?!

For newbies, maybe u wanna try a shot at Botak Jones doin some waitering. Its a fast food outlet somewhere in Ang Mo Kio, but the weird shit is this outlet is in a kopitiam joint. They employed a few Caucasian expats working there, something you do not see often in a kopitiam.

Hey if you can crack the secrets to starting a kopitiam in Singapore, keep it and bring it with you to Ireland, UK or some place. Its the thing that can make you rich. Trust me!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 15 Nov 2006 1:13 pm

LaoTa

Boy aren't you just full of yourself! It's rather funny seeing you obviously don't know Jack! :???:

Botak Jones is a PR so no problem opening a shop in a Kopitiam. Caucasians here on Dependents or Student Passes also have no problem getting a "Letter of Consent" from MOM approved to allow them to work (they are here anyway with someone usually on an EP anyway as a trailing spouse or dependent child). Eastern Europeans? Footballers? Ethnic waiters in ethnic restaurants. Engineers who don't mind getting their hands and feet dirty (field engineers). Easy for them to get jobs as their financial requirements aren't much different than locals but they have tons of experience in the field. Or again, trailing spouses with qualifications who have a Letter of Consent. :-|

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Postby hkartadi » Wed, 15 Nov 2006 1:24 pm

Hi all!

I am Indonesian and just finished study in US institution. Just a month ago, I got an approval letter for my LPR status from ICA Singapore. They said that I need to find an employment in Singapore to convert LPR to PR. does LPR have a better chance to get an employment in Singapore? I am a fresh graduate so I am really afraid that I couldnt find a job related to my major.

Thank you all for the help.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 15 Nov 2006 1:43 pm

Yes, considerably. What is your degree in?

As a new graduate you will be competing with other local new grads as well but the fact that you are an LPR will more or less put you on a level playing field as you will not have to qualify for an EP which would generally mean lots of experience or specialty. Can I assume by your nick that your are Indonesian Chinese? Shouldn't be a problem.

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Postby hkartadi » Wed, 15 Nov 2006 2:12 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Yes, considerably. What is your degree in?

As a new graduate you will be competing with other local new grads as well but the fact that you are an LPR will more or less put you on a level playing field as you will not have to qualify for an EP which would generally mean lots of experience or specialty. Can I assume by your nick that your are Indonesian Chinese? Shouldn't be a problem.

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Thanks for replying!

My major is Electrical Engineering, from Arizona State U.
Yes I am a chinese indonesian, but I only can speak basic chinese...
I am aware that many companies in Singapore prefer to hire ppl that can speak chinese.

When you said "Shouldn't be a problem", is that because I have an LPR or because I am Indonesian Chinese (or maybe both)?

From what I heard in other forum, some companies dislike LPR holders since they tend to "run away" from their job after granted Permanent PR.

Just an information for everybody,
The ICA person told me that companies in singapore must have 5 singapore/PR to hire 1 foreigner. So I guess, just apply for LPR instead of EPEC... (I dunno if their approvals were based on ethnicity too...)

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Postby LaoTa » Wed, 15 Nov 2006 5:59 pm

Aite sundaymorningstupor,

Obviously u r botak of imagination after issuing EPs and bald lessons behind your make believe immigration helpdesk. It does not strike you that Botak Jones landed in a kopitiam thru circumstances other than being just a PR.

Maybe you need someone to wake you up when you're sober!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 15 Nov 2006 6:13 pm

LaoTa wrote:Aite sundaymorningstupor,

Obviously u r botak of imagination after issuing EPs and bald lessons behind your make believe immigration helpdesk. It does not strike you that Botak Jones landed in a kopitiam thru circumstances other than being just a PR.

Maybe you need someone to wake you up when you're sober!


You really ARE a piece a work.

I happen to also be from the same oilfield, I also know about his former ventures and I also know he was a PR before he open up in the Kopitiam. Get a life.

Oh yeah, one other thing. About the only private sector job a PR cannot do by law in Singapore it drive a Taxi.
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 15 Nov 2006 6:24 pm

hkartadi wrote:Thanks for replying!

My major is Electrical Engineering, from Arizona State U.
Yes I am a chinese indonesian, but I only can speak basic chinese...
I am aware that many companies in Singapore prefer to hire ppl that can speak chinese.

When you said "Shouldn't be a problem", is that because I have an LPR or because I am Indonesian Chinese (or maybe both)? Both

From what I heard in other forum, some companies dislike LPR holders since they tend to "run away" from their job after granted Permanent PR.

Once you get a job offered you are granted PR correct? If that is so then it shouldn't make any difference. I do know that Regional Types who are here on "S" & "Q" Passes tend leave once they have obtained their PR though. Matter of fact I had once give her notice today. (We sponsored her for PR about 3 months ago - no wonder employers get a bad taste) :(

Just an information for everybody,
The ICA person told me that companies in singapore must have 5 singapore/PR to hire 1 foreigner. (That is on Employment Passes or "S" Passes - Not Work Permits) So I guess, just apply for LPR instead of EPEC... (I dunno if their approvals were based on ethnicity too...)


LPR is not easy to get. I do know that foreign graduates of NUS are offered LPR's but other than that it is primarily Indonesian Chinese that get the bulk of them.

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Postby hkartadi » Thu, 16 Nov 2006 9:38 am

Yeah, once I land a job (doesnt matter what kind of job it is), I will get a PR. But the think is, the LPR holders need to get a letter from the employer stating that they work in that company and the salary.
I dont know if the big employer like to do that favor.

So, most foreigners from NUS will be offered LPRs?
Are you a hiring manager in one company? how do you sponsor someone a PR?

Thanks.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:19 am

hkartadi wrote:Yeah, once I land a job (doesnt matter what kind of job it is), I will get a PR. But the think is, the LPR holders need to get a letter from the employer stating that they work in that company and the salary.
I dont know if the big employer like to do that favor.

So, most foreigners from NUS will be offered LPRs?
Are you a hiring manager in one company? how do you sponsor someone a PR?

Thanks.


I've initiated plenty of PR applications but I have never processed an LPR so I cannot say for sure but I am pretty sure that the company would need to submit the Annex A that is found in the Standard PR application form found here: http://app.ica.gov.sg/serv_pr/per_res/app_for_pr.asp

C) P, Q or S Work Pass Holder
If you are applying under the Professionals/Technical Personnel and Skilled Workers Scheme, you will need to submit 2 sets of completed Form 4A (one original and one photocopy). You may obtain the form at the Permanent Resident Services Centre ordownload a copy.


As SMC Management Consultantsis the sole external Gov't Authorized LPR specialist I think that they could give you a definitive answer.

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Postby shopgirl » Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:48 am

hello,
ive been surfing the web for a few weeks now, trying to get information about applying for an LPR.
recently graduated from california university. art degree (i dont draw).
one year experience working as a researcher in new york. any input on what my chance are is very helpful.
also where can i get an LPR application form? and do i have to be in singapore to apply?
-tara

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Postby RamonIII » Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:28 am

Thanks for this.


So i got now my EPEC, which means I'm ready to go to Singapore. However, I've read on their site that I would need to apply for a Social Visit Pass to have 12 months stay in Singapore. I'm quite confused, what was the purpose for applying the EPEC? Was it not to give me 12 months stay in Singapore? If not, then how many months am I supposed to stay in Singapore with just the EPEC.

Another thing, this is my first time to go to Singapore, my first time to travel international for that matter. When I get to the airport of Singapore, do I just need to show them my EPEC then I can go to where I 'd be staying? or I need to apply first for the SVP on the same day?

Please, I need your advise.


Tnx!

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Postby lalit_72 » Sat, 02 Dec 2006 8:19 pm

Hi ramon,

Congrats for getting a EPEC.But i would like to tell u some hards facts dont think that i am disheartning you but u have to keep it in mind.

REG EPEC: I am also holder to EPEC & was in singapore looking for a job. But EPEC just not gives u any advantage in getting a job. You have to accept the fact that most emplyers give first preference to locals & my experience was that i applied for more than 50 times but i got only 2 interviews. & still if u get a job there are chances that maybe u did not get your EP from MOM beacuse of their stringent norms. But as i don,t know your Industry & CV details best of luck for your sojourn in singapore.

How to get Long term SPV: i dont know which country u r from so if u need a visa for coming to singapore get in your country & attach EPEC with it. if u don,t need visa u can tell the immagration officer at airport that u got EPEC & they will stamp your passport for 14 days. After u get into singapore , go to ICA Buliding at 10, kallang road & at 4th storey u can apply for long term visa . u need to attach ur xerox copy of EPEC & Travel document & degree & wait for atleast 4 hrs. Initally your passport will be stamped for 2 months & to get 12 months visa u need to submit your medical certificate & S$40 as fee then u will be givem green card.

Life in singapore: Singapore is a expensive place so bring atleast more than S$10,000/= if u intend to stay for 6 months . one year can cost u more than 20,000/- & be mentally prepared that singapore,s employment policy for foreigners is not as liberal as it seems.

Best of Luck,


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