Strong Eagle wrote:riversandlakes wrote:Before I say the below, let it be known that most of you know where I stand and where I come from - I'm not a hater of anybody.
But have you forgotten that it is how American mendering in other peoples' lives/nations that got them into this mess in the first place? Remember Vietnam?
The real political/economical reasons for this war by Bush is another story all together.
Now who gave you the rights to demand that taxes from THEIR natural resource go to whom and whom? I think it's tad arrogant. Shall Malaysia demand that the US tax their super big oil companies MORE to give out to the American poor? Kind of unheard of, isn't it?
I think you miss the point. Right now, the American plan is that oil revenues will be collected by the so called government in Iraq and then distributed as the government sees fit to "rebuild" Iraq. It has been part of the American plan all along... that Iraqi oil revenues would rebuild the country according to a plan (guaranteed to fail, if you haven't noticed) that the neocons put together.
Where the money belongs is in the hands of the people. When people have money they spend it. Spending creates a tax base. It creates jobs. It creates a sense of common interest. Over and over again, it has been shown all over the world that when money is given to those it power it rarely accomplishes what it is supposed to. When the people are empowered directly, many good things happen.
You may not have noticed but we are talking BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of dollars here, enough to drag every Iraqi out of poverty. Instead, a handful of corrupt fat cats takes the money, and as you may have noticed, Iraq is still a heap of sh*t years after the invasion.
Current American policy is a total failure. You got a better idea than giving money to the people themselves so that they can make a difference in their own lives?
Where the money belongs is in the hands of the people. When people have money they spend it. Spending creates a tax base. It creates jobs. It creates a sense of common interest. Over and over again, it has been shown all over the world that when money is given to those it power it rarely accomplishes what it is supposed to. When the people are empowered directly, many good things happen.
You may not have noticed but we are talking BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of dollars here, enough to drag every Iraqi out of poverty. Instead, a handful of corrupt fat cats takes the money, and as you may have noticed, Iraq is still a heap of sh*t years after the invasion.
No offense SE! I believe your statement to be quite true, although priorites do matter here! Tony Blair would have a fit, if he was to read this. Many Brits & Americans would agree, but lets be honest here, charity begins at home, yet we don't see America or the Brits helping their own people.
They are very good to criticise other countries for there failings, and i can also remember the times, when American sympathisers where also responsible for funding of the IRA. and the so called British government sold it's army out, all the poor souls, that perished and for what may I ask?
For the likes of internees to be recruited into government, for the sake of peace. I mean lets be realistic here, when one looks back the last 30 to 50 years, the families of the war dead and the innocent victims are the ones that suffer and are still suffering, for what, all governments have a double face, that's politics and none of them should be trusted, the people are conned every time, we vote them in.?
Political motives for the history books and martyrs of their own right! the people are just pawns, not even classified has human, in the eyes of all governments, and no matter what is done, the Middle East will never ever be a stable playing field, and will never be a friend of the west, it wasn't meant to be in my opinion.
The terrorist is only out to get the governments, because they are a law to themselves, power crazy and believe, they can ignore the opposition.
How can one ever expect to trust the distribution of wealth, when its never ever been controlable in Europe since the European treaty was formed, and the biggest offenders are the politicians, that are stealing the money, through illegal deals, trades, and god knows what else. curruption is not only in the Middle East. So the rich get richer and the poor still get sweet FA. Just my past observations the last 40 years.
