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Postby Plavt » Thu, 21 Sep 2006 3:38 pm

As toygirl says this job like any other comes with a host of negatives which never get mentioned in the airline's glossy recruitment drives. This is not least the reason why I have often said plan your application which includes making a list of the good and bad points and what might can/happen.

This is a bit more extreme than usual but it a happens see this;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/204906.stm

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Postby sWeeT_DeViL » Fri, 22 Sep 2006 9:07 pm

toygirl wrote:Bitchiness from men - Gay men perhaps. Straight men - rarely.



YEs... i have been in a few jobs after crew life... there ARE straight men who are bitchy too!!!! its the personality, not gender... men who are insecure of their job, get bithcy too.. but of cos we dun call them a bitch but bastards!!! hahahaha... see... it happens everywhere... if a small company can hav these kinda ppl.. needless to say the airline with such a big number of staff (cew)... logically.... the bigger the pool, the more u get...

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Postby cad » Sun, 29 Oct 2006 2:26 am

hi girls, i'm kinda sick of my life. living now with my boyfriend and his commitments so i'm thinking of a way out to leave for good and be financially strong. Can you please tell me averagely how much does SIA pay and how long is the bond for the SIA after 4 months training. kinda planning for it though. i'm open to suggestions and comments of all sorts dear.

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Postby toygirl » Mon, 30 Oct 2006 7:54 am

Pay varies - The basic is between $1.2-$1.6K, with layover allowances - on a good month, you can earn between $3.5-$5K on a bad month, $2.5K. Some current SQ will be able to advise you further.

The bond around 1.5 years of between $12-16k? You may wish to post it at SQ thread or have a read.

Financially independent from your boyfriend? Sick of your life? Perhaps you might want to seek some counselling to see whether this is a job for you and to reevaluate what your goals are to help you be a better and happier individual. Never wise to jump into something to escape from something else.

I wish you luck.

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Postby cherrysauce » Fri, 03 Nov 2006 12:28 pm

wow, what a wealth of info we have here. thanks toygirl for your valuable insight!
seems like what i've heard about this industry is really true after all.

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Postby cherrysauce » Fri, 03 Nov 2006 12:34 pm

hey toygirl :), if you dont mind.. would u care to share which airlines you have had the best experience so far in your airline career? you mentioned somewhere you had a great time in the second airline u joined.

p.s. i cant pm yet lol, sorry.

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Postby toygirl » Fri, 03 Nov 2006 12:50 pm

Not going to announce the names :) (It's a small world out there!) LOL Only the mods know my background:p

It's really kinda easy to guess which ones I have been in. My best experience would have to be one not located in Singapore but based overseas.

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Postby qinggx » Thu, 30 Nov 2006 3:18 pm

Hi toygirl,

Can I know which 3 airlines have you worked with?

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Postby easy_going » Tue, 19 Dec 2006 3:04 pm

hi, toygirl... :)

do you mind telling me how you survived your bad flying experiences?
Eg. those bitchy colleagues?
how do you deal with people like them?

and erm.... also, do you mind sharing your worst experience?

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Postby anti_spy999 » Wed, 20 Dec 2006 2:44 pm

Respect toygirl's privacy. She has already given so many wonderful tips and i have a rought idea that she is a ... (not going to say out).

Correct or not, toygirl? :twisted:
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Postby fuschial » Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:17 pm

HI toygirl!

Tks so much for the wealth of ah-mazing info! *hats off* I will take all u said and keep them in mind when i try my first interview and if *crosses fingers* i ever do get in! esp the grad thing

I know its a silly question but is there a general age limit for stewardess?

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Postby ryanstarr » Wed, 24 Jan 2007 5:02 pm

toygirl wrote:let's put it this way, some ppl have it easier than others. there will be nice ppl - trust me, i wouldn't have been able to survive otherwise. but some can be destructive. just be careful not to step on anyone's toes. simple advice. if you step on dynamite, you'll explode :)

i'll tell you what happened to me - one of my crew was really really nice to me - turned out later, he wanted to sleep with me. you get the picture. some "nice" ones are actually arseholes.

trust me - training will be the fun part - usually most get sick after 1 year and bond time over - resignation! think of it like going to university, when you enrol you full of excitment, after you in your final year, you can't wait to get out - same feeling for some.

you'll be fine, just remember, humility goes a long way. however, i have seen innocent cases when the girl is just too quiet and they think something's wrong with you. it's a balance. plus no offence, singaporeans then to be really @!##$!@#@#@# sometimes - i think its the competitve nature perhaps.

and yes - i know of some "lucky" girls who end up marrying the first officer - "lucky" - depends on how you view it.

it's like acting really - i act with my customers, i act with my crew, i act with the pilot. i act. once i finish my flight and head to my hotel, the show is over and i become my real self =) giggle, my girls and i always laugh thinking we all can win oscar sometimes!

now you know why many of the channel 8 artistes are ex-cabin crew! hahahahaha :P


Hi, I find your posts to be most enlightening, informative and even humourous.I really enjoyed every word you wrote. I reckon you have flown for SQ and United, but am not sure which the other one might be.Emirates most likely. I joined SQ in 1989 and made LS in 4 years. Quit after almost 6 years. Joining Tiger Airways next month. Thank you for all your advice. It helped me to decide to settle for this Singapore-based airline. What line of work are you in now? Thanks... :)
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Postby ryanstarr » Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:25 am

*rachel* wrote:it's very upsetting to see peoples argue in the forum ... if one cannot endure what other peoples said in open forum like this, how one can survive with the political issue in any job?

toygirl and merliongal26 just trying to gives some information of their personal experince - although is not what aspiring FA hope to hear, but hey ... it's just a piece of information.

tuesdayisbest also give good views about her experince as an FA...

the thing is everyone might experince things in every different way ... is up to those care to read.... and think through.... and care to ask more info from them again to deciede... whether to be or not to be FA.

I agree is there is no difference as an FA whether u r grad or
not ...everyone is the same up there.

However, the fact that is those freah grad who become an FA right after degree must be prepare - your FA experience might not be counted, especially those professions like IT, Engineer, Lawyer,... where experince in similar job is what count for better pay and more senior position. Remember a degree not put in practice after 2 years means nothing much to an employer ... they will think a fresh grad is better than them and no one care u have 1st class, it was 2 years ago.

Again - there are many successful examples out there for life after FA.


If you have FA experience, especially as Supervisory crew, then Tiger Airways may appoint you as Crew-in-Charge or Senior FA right away or a few months after you start flying. I'm a non-grad, so it was an easy decision for me to quit my teaching job to return to flying. :)
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Postby niennaanarion » Tue, 30 Jan 2007 9:15 pm

i agree with toygirl..

heard so much rumours about politicking in SIA. im sure u worked in SIA before and im sure u are talking about SIA. and yes i heard singaporeans are such *!#&*!^%(!% sometimes. cant understand why they look at it like a competition, and why they overdo it, but maybe i'll understand why later on.

im sure politick is everywhere.. but in some airlines, well SIA is just a lot moreeeeeee heavy than others, cuz it is based on seniority too, so u cant really defend urself, u just have to swallow ur pride. is it? from what i heard from my friends who works in other airline (well emirates hahah cuz i have lots of friends there) they dont deal with those politics, yea they met bitches but they can defend theirselves as long as they are right, and seniority doesnt rule there. everyone is equal.

honestly im not sure if i can face those politics in SIA, im not a quitter but hey we'll see how i would cope to that.. btw do they politic outside the job, i mean even after flying.. or just on the skies. do they get bitchy when they meet u when ur going out or clubbing or such.. ??
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Postby xmischax » Tue, 30 Jan 2007 9:19 pm

believe me, when it comes to politicking in workplaces like airlines, singapore airlines is not the worse for sure. take a look at EVA airlines, it`s worse than SIA for sure.. but then again, it`s something that happens everywhere you know. not only among cabin crews.


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