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Post by Florian » Mon, 08 May 2006 4:25 pm

Dear all,

does anybody know whether the MOM deletes your file after a while?

The story behind that is that I tried to apply for a S-Pass but was rejected for 4 times now.

So the only thing I can think of now is leaving Singapore and starting the whole procedure again in 4 weeks or whatever...

Does that make sense?Any help would be much appreciated.

I just don't want to go back to my home country as I am living here for 2.5 months now...

Thank you in advance.

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Post by Florian » Mon, 08 May 2006 4:29 pm

Furthermore,does anybody know a staff of the MOM who could help me through the jungle? :)

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Post by guruvishwanath » Mon, 08 May 2006 4:32 pm

First, MOM/Immigration NEVER deletes anything. They still have my visit record as a tourist in 1993, my library borrowings etc. So in that respect, no. The MOM never deletes any record. S-Pass is a social visit pass. Which means its not for a job. If you are looking to work, thens its either or P or a Q. Honestly, they want people to work, pay taxes and spend money. If you are S-Pass and not a registered tax payer, and single then its quite tough to get any extension on your S-visa.

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Post by Florian » Mon, 08 May 2006 4:43 pm

To give you some background:

My German company wants me to work overseas for a Singaporean company which is ready to employ me here in Singapore.

They applied for S-Pass twice now plus 2 appeals which were all rejected.

So we do not know what to do next!?

Shall I talk to MOS directly and ask what their requirements are?Because I have to say that I am not sure whether the person in charge of my Singaporean company knows what is going on.

So I would like to take matters into my own hands...

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Post by guruvishwanath » Mon, 08 May 2006 5:05 pm

Best you visit the mom website but the gist of the whole issue is this.

1. S-pass is a point based system.
2. Salary is key. If you are getting 2K or less, then chances are not very good. Anything above 3K is a better chance but not always. But usually salary makes a difference.

I have not come across many successful cases of S-passes. EP (P, Q) have higher chances of winning an appeal.

Go here for seeing some examples.

http://www.mom.gov.sg/NR/rdonlyres/8744 ... System.pdf

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Post by Florian » Mon, 08 May 2006 5:12 pm

Thank you very much!

EP cannot be considered as I have just finished my apprenticeship last January.

So no real work experience.

U see?

Thanks again

Florian

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 08 May 2006 5:49 pm

Florian,

If you are from a european country, or north/south america you chances of getting an S pass approved is virtually zero. The "S" pass was designed for skilled workers from Asean and other asian countries. This was designed for those worker that fell outside the purview of Work Permits (unskilled/semi-skilled) earning less than 1.6K/mo and the Employment Pass holders earning more than 2.5K/mo) normally this would only be used for regional workers from what Singapore terms "Traditional Sources". I'm not say that it is impossible, just that it is highly improbable. I've had a lot of unsuccessful attempts at this over the past couple of years.

Good Luck.

Profile of S Pass Applicants and the Point system

Examples of applicants who pass the point system

1. A respiratory therapist with a declared monthly salary of $1,900, has 3 years of
relevant work experience and holds a specialist degree.

2. An assistant electronic engineer with a declared monthly salary of $1,800, has 6 years of relevant work experience and has technical qualifications.

Technical qualifications can be considered and are, very broadly, courses that train the applicant to be a qualified technician or specialist in their chosen field. This should be obtained after at least 1 year of full-time study. To use a Singapore example, this would include NTC 2 or higher National ITE Certificate (NITEC) courses.

3. A systems programmer with a declared monthly salary of $2,500, has 2 years work experience and degree.

Examples of applicants who fail the point system

1. A bank teller with a declared monthly salary of $1,800, has 4 years work experience and diploma.

2. An office clerk with a declared monthly salary of $1,700, has 5 years work experience and ‘O’ level equivalent.

3. A hotel receptionist with a declared monthly salary of $2,000, has 6 years work experience and technical qualifications.
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Post by guruvishwanath » Mon, 08 May 2006 5:58 pm

That my friend is the crux of your troubles. Lack of work experience. I have lived here for 10 years to know that work experience counts a lot. And a specialization if you do not have a extensive work experience. If your company had sent you as an intern here to thier office, its a different game altogether. Being not in that position will make getting passes tougher.

Good Luck on your quest!

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Casus Knacktus

Post by Florian » Mon, 08 May 2006 6:15 pm

Nevertheless,thanks a lot for your kind support!

Tomorrow,I will have a walk through the jungle of bureaucracy,through the hell of authorities,but maybe through the key to my luck.

Could even think of being the representative of my German company.Will check all my opportunities and let you know when I made it.

Thanks again!

And they will never send me back - that I promise! :)

Florian

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Re: Casus Knacktus

Post by Vaucluse » Tue, 09 May 2006 5:56 pm

Florian wrote: And they will never send me back - that I promise! :)

Florian


Famous last words . . .


seriously, try thr Rep office I explained to you in my PM - it's the best and easiest way.
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'nuff said Image

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done

Post by Florian » Wed, 10 May 2006 12:00 pm

Went to IE Singapore yesterday to check on RO!

Sounds easy...

Thank u all.

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