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Postby abbby » Sat, 08 Apr 2006 2:43 pm

My boyfriend's father is keen in obtaining a PR in Singapore. What's the procedure for one? :)
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Postby Strong Eagle » Sat, 08 Apr 2006 3:48 pm

It depends what his status is right now. How long has he been here? How much does he make? How much tax has he paid? Is his a professional job?

PR is tied to your economic ability to be an asset, not a liability to the Singaporean economy.

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Postby abbby » Sat, 08 Apr 2006 7:03 pm

My boyfriend used to study in Singapore, his father had previously visited Singapore briefly. If they can make monetary contributions to Singapore, will his dad be granted PRship?

Or how should his dad go about starting since he's never really lived in Singapore? BTW, they are from Indonesia.
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Postby jpatokal » Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:47 pm

You can always try for Landed PR, although this would require that your father has skills in need and find a local job within 2 years. Or if you're got a spare S$1.5 sitting around (don't you hate it when that happens?) you can go for the Deposit Scheme. More information:

http://www.contactsingapore.org.sg/fore ... p_PR.shtml

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Postby gotta_think » Tue, 09 May 2006 8:41 am

Can a person apply for a PR without company's sponsorship? My situation is like this, my agency will only endorse pr application after you completed 1yr of service. Originally, they said after 6months, but recently, they just changed from 6months to 1yr. I am just wondering if applying without employer's information has a chance of getting approved? I am planning to apply 3months prior to my 1yr, as I understand it will take up to 3months before you will see the result. Thus, should i get approved, i already completed 1yr with them.

Some colleagues were sponsored by them and they got approved. Only 1 person that I know of did not make it. I wonder what happened? This only means that applying with Employer's info is not a guarantee of getting one. Should I or Should I not apply? Pls help....

Hope someone could help with their inputs. Thanks!

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Postby guruvishwanath » Tue, 09 May 2006 11:45 am

Let me share some stories of some friends who applied for PR.

1. Worked for HP, fairly senior position, 5 figure salary. REJECTED.
2. Worked for a local trader selling tools, 3500 salary. APPROVED in 20 days

So how does one figure the above? Not possible. There was a debate 5 years ago on the criteria for PR rejections which ICA told people who asked to go fly a kite and they wont tell you why anyone was rejected or approved. But bottom line is :-

1. Decent salary, length of stay, education qualifications will come as number 1
2. Ethnicity. yep! they have a ethnicity balancing to be done so they dont fill up PR of the same ethinicity thus providing an imbalance. No idea how they figure out.
3. Economic conditions. If its boom time, then chances are easier because if you are reasonably high earner (5K+), then chances are better.
4. If you are married with kids, its also easier because you will set roots here and your kids will go to school.

You can apply PR on your own merits. But its better to let company sponsor you as details like salary etc. come into play. Some companies are reluctance because they need to give you CPF (5% to start) as thier contribution. Most dont mind as it reduces thier taxes to empoy less EP holders (I recall my HR telling me sometime in 2000).

You can always give it a shot and remember if they like you they will approve you in a month. Any longer, then its 50-50.

Good Luck!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 09 May 2006 12:12 pm

guruvishwanath wrote:Let me share some stories of some friends who applied for PR.

1. Worked for HP, fairly senior position, 5 figure salary. REJECTED.
2. Worked for a local trader selling tools, 3500 salary. APPROVED in 20 days

So how does one figure the above? Not possible. There was a debate 5 years ago on the criteria for PR rejections which ICA told people who asked to go fly a kite and they wont tell you why anyone was rejected or approved. But bottom line is :-

1. Decent salary, length of stay, education qualifications will come as number 1
2. Ethnicity. yep! they have a ethnicity balancing to be done so they dont fill up PR of the same ethinicity thus providing an imbalance. No idea how they figure out.
3. Economic conditions. If its boom time, then chances are easier because if you are reasonably high earner (5K+), then chances are better.
4. If you are married with kids, its also easier because you will set roots here and your kids will go to school.

You can apply PR on your own merits. But its better to let company sponsor you as details like salary etc. come into play. Some companies are reluctance because they need to give you CPF (5% to start) as thier contribution. Most dont mind as it reduces thier taxes to empoy less EP holders (I recall my HR telling me sometime in 2000).

You can always give it a shot and remember if they like you they will approve you in a month. Any longer, then its 50-50.

Good Luck!


I was told by a reasonably reliable source (the immigration officer that gave my my interview years ago - after he left the civil service) that your #2 reason is based on the percentages of the last census. Whether or not this is still a non-written criteria is anybody's guess (I actually got my PR many years ago - lots of criteria could have changed). I mean if they can hold their citizens hostage with their own tax dollars when it comes to upgrading HDB flats, they can do anything they want can't they.

If you get notified for a PR interview then you are successful. They only give the interview once they are already satisfied (it is still possible to blow the IV however if you start dissing the country - :roll: )

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Postby guruvishwanath » Tue, 09 May 2006 12:36 pm

No interview for me too. Went one morning to submit, took off on a holiday. 20 days later, I got my approval. Went to ICA and did the procedure for getting the IC. That's it.

The only interview was the time when I went to submit the forms. The dude checked and double checked all my documentation and verified them against the original. And told me "Dont call us, we will call you" and shooed me away. :-)

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 09 May 2006 3:46 pm

Like I said, things change.

Used to be, everybody had an interview (a getting to know you interview) prior to being given PR. Guess now they just don't care anymore. (I got my PR when the old man was still in power.)

sorry.

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Postby Vaucluse » Tue, 09 May 2006 5:58 pm

Eric from the Netherlands wrote:I never had an interview in the whole process of applying for the PR...

Within 6 weeks I received the Approved in Principle confirmation letter, no interview. Then had to go down to ICA in Aljunied, to get my PR AIP. There I applied for the 'full' PR, by showing my contract with a new employer here. 3 weeks later I received the letter saying my PR had been fully approved. No interview again.

Which interview are you peeps referring to?

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Postby Quasimodo » Wed, 10 May 2006 1:08 pm

Eric from the Netherlands wrote:nope, just a contract of course Vaucluse, Dutch do not work, they rule... 8-)

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