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Postby donno » Sat, 01 Apr 2006 6:24 pm

So, whoever went to the walk in interview, care to share with us your expriences? :D
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Postby singaporegrrl » Sun, 02 Apr 2006 8:59 am

It's not an interview. We just walked in to attend the briefing on the programme. Yep it's the first ever Cabin Crew Diploma Sponsorship programme.

Selected applicants will be serving as cabin crew on Jetstar Asia for internship and at the same time study for Diploma in Business and Marketing. Selected applicants will be going to school 2 days a week and go to work most of the rest of the week. More of like working and study part-time, but usually a job like cabin crew don't give the opportunity to study part-time because of the irregular working hours. So I guess this is a good opportunity for people to gain experience as a cabin crew and at the same time pursue a diploma.

After completion of programme, you can choose to continue with the programme as Crew In-Charge on Jetstar Asia and be sponsored for a degree, or they can recommend you to Emirates, or you can choose not to continue with SASS Atlantic at all. As mentioned no bond at all. You may wish to work for other airlines, etc.

We filled out an application form and handed it over to the receptionist together with copies of educational certificates and photographs. It's weird that the lady gave me back my full-length photo.

Oh well, the main thing is I got called up just about 3 hours later informing me that I'm shortlisted for an interview with SASS Atlantic this coming Tuesday. Applicants who gets through this stage will be selected to go for an interview with Jetstar Asia end of the week or the week after. Wish me luck guys!
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Postby donno » Sun, 02 Apr 2006 9:40 am

You must know that the diploma you are taking is far equivalant to a polytechnic diploma. A polytechnic diploma has 30 to 40 modules while the diploma you will be taking will only have fewer than 10 modules. I know it because with two lessons per week, you can only cover few modules. Means, if you choose to leave SASS Atlantic, the diploma in marketing might be very unrecognised because of the limited module. I have many friends who do this kind of diploma where they work in hotel most of the time and have lesson twice a week. It is 2-year programme too. And when i checked out how many modules they take, it was only 8! And those are basic modules.

Singapore Grrrrl, please think carefully before going. Cheers! :D
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Postby singaporegrrl » Sun, 02 Apr 2006 9:56 am

Nope, there are around 12-15 modules if I'm not wrong. And what is a diploma if it's unrecognised? There are so many modules in polytechnics because they have core-modules and electives which a student, no matter what their course of study is, must learn. Private intitutions teach only the essentials. Thus, the difference but are equally recognised by the government. I'm sure there are many successful people who pursued private diplomas. Anyways, I have my own plans for this diploma, so don't worry I know what I'm doing.
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Postby donno » Sun, 02 Apr 2006 8:12 pm

Alright. Just telling you that 12 modules is still too little.

Your private diploma is different to other private diplomas such as MDIS. My neighbour who take MDIS diploma has to take 30plus modules!

"Private intitutions teach only the essentials". Not all!
The one you are taking is just part time! Unlike some other full-time private diploma which are almost the same as Polytechnic diplomas.

A) Diploma with 35 modules, with lots of other certs n knowledge, full-time student, 3 years, from a recognised institute like MDIS, Poly etc.

B) Diploma with 12 modules, part-time student 2 years, twice a week class, from an unknown institute. Almost equal as ITE cert.


All employers will prefer option A!
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Postby singaporegrrl » Sun, 02 Apr 2006 8:28 pm

donno wrote:Alright. Just telling you that 12 modules is still too little.

Your private diploma is different to other private diplomas such as MDIS. My neighbour who take MDIS diploma has to take 30plus modules!

"Private intitutions teach only the essentials". Not all!
The one you are taking is just part time! Unlike some other full-time private diploma which are almost the same as Polytechnic diplomas.

A) Diploma with 35 modules, with lots of other certs n knowledge, full-time student, 3 years, from a recognised institute like MDIS, Poly etc.

B) Diploma with 12 modules, part-time student 2 years, twice a week class, from an unknown institute. Almost equal as ITE cert.


All employers will prefer option A!


Full-time and part-time, aren't they the same? They cover the same modules only that part-time takes waaaay longer to finish(you're aware that I'm talking about full/part-time of same institutes right?).

Have you checked MDIS website? Coz I see that all of their diplomas have less than 15 modules, most having less than 10. If you scan properly, the number of essential modules in polytechnics are around 15 as well, some more some less. I really don't understand what's the big difference.

By the way, you knew Sass Atlantic work with which institute? How do you know it's unknown? Coz I remember hearing the name of the institute somewhere during my O level year. How can it be unknown if it has been known by many of my friends and I a few years ago? :???:Is it always this complicated?
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Postby donno » Sun, 02 Apr 2006 8:49 pm

Yeah, normally this kind of diploma are from Auston etc.. They are not recognised by many companies. A person I know graduated with this kind of diploma and she wasnt employed although her modules were good. The employers only looked at her O level results.

Part-time and full time is different.

Full-time diploma students from private institute, with same number of modules>> go to lesson everyday.

While part-time students with the same number of modules>> go to school twice a week.

all good diplomas are atleast 2 year course and to be full time. Not part time which is the same as full time for less than a year.

Why do full time students have to go to school for extra 3 days a week?
Means, they are equiped with more knowledge, certs, enrichment courses and many more. Unlike the private diploma where they have Microeconomics and Macroeconomics, when both of them are considered as one module(economics) in majority of institutes like Poly.


here is a look at what poly students study during 2nd year. diploma in marketing....

Investment Analysis and Finance
Business Development
Global Business Environment
Marketing Communications
Service Marketing
Communication Skills for Business
Business-to-Business Marketing
Marketing Management & Information Technology
Law and Ethics Relating to Retail and Marketing
General Elective Module
Free Elective*
*One elective from:
• Mathematics for Business
• Independent Study Project
• Physical Distribution & Warehouse Management
• Operations Management
• Introduction To Tourism,Hospitality & Leisure
• Customer Communication & Visual Merchandising
• Fashion Buying & Marketing
Business Law
Marketing Research
Quantitative Analysis
Financial & Management Accounting
Report Writing & Presentation Skills
Selling & Sales Management
E-commerce management
Human Resource Management
Principles of Supply Chain management
Cost & Management Accounting
Financial Management
Understanding Cross Cultural Diversity
Customer Behaviour
General Elective Module

And here is what a private institute's marketing course's modules for the complete 2 years.

Principles of Business Management
Fundamentals of Information Technology
Direct Marketing
Marketing Operations
Marketing Environment & Practice
Understanding Customers & Consumers

Get it singapore grrrrrrrrl??
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Postby blancD » Sun, 02 Apr 2006 9:12 pm

correct me if i'm wrong, but of all the diplomas and proffesional courses i've heard of... i've never come across a diplomas less than 20 modules... well maybe if you've got exemptions from previously taking another diploma, in that case its a different situation
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Postby donno » Sun, 02 Apr 2006 9:16 pm

Yeah true! hehehe...

People want to be more employable not only based on the essential stuff.
The more knowledgeable the person is the more employable he or she is.
30 modules vs 10 modules... who wins??
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Postby vivi » Sun, 02 Apr 2006 11:12 pm

donno wrote:Yeah, normally this kind of diploma are from Auston etc.. They are not recognised by many companies. A person I know graduated with this kind of diploma and she wasnt employed although her modules were good. The employers only looked at her O level results.

Part-time and full time is different.

Full-time diploma students from private institute, with same number of modules>> go to lesson everyday.

While part-time students with the same number of modules>> go to school twice a week.


all good diplomas are atleast 2 year course and to be full time. Not part time which is the same as full time for less than a year.

Why do full time students have to go to school for extra 3 days a week?
Means, they are equiped with more knowledge, certs, enrichment courses and many more. Unlike the private diploma where they have Microeconomics and Macroeconomics, when both of them are considered as one module(economics) in majority of institutes like Poly.


here is a look at what poly students study during 2nd year. diploma in marketing....

Investment Analysis and Finance
Business Development
Global Business Environment
Marketing Communications
Service Marketing
Communication Skills for Business
Business-to-Business Marketing
Marketing Management & Information Technology
Law and Ethics Relating to Retail and Marketing
General Elective Module
Free Elective*
*One elective from:
• Mathematics for Business
• Independent Study Project
• Physical Distribution & Warehouse Management
• Operations Management
• Introduction To Tourism,Hospitality & Leisure
• Customer Communication & Visual Merchandising
• Fashion Buying & Marketing
Business Law
Marketing Research
Quantitative Analysis
Financial & Management Accounting
Report Writing & Presentation Skills
Selling & Sales Management
E-commerce management
Human Resource Management
Principles of Supply Chain management
Cost & Management Accounting
Financial Management
Understanding Cross Cultural Diversity
Customer Behaviour
General Elective Module

And here is what a private institute's marketing course's modules for the complete 2 years.

Principles of Business Management
Fundamentals of Information Technology
Direct Marketing
Marketing Operations
Marketing Environment & Practice
Understanding Customers & Consumers

Get it singapore grrrrrrrrl??


Hi dunno, just my two cents worth. are you confused between part-time / full-time with government / private diplomas?

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Postby singaporegrrl » Mon, 03 Apr 2006 9:03 am

I'm having the same question as vivi. What's the difference between part-time and full-time? Coz let's say someone were to take a diploma from MDIS full-time and another person, on a part-time basis. The only difference is that the latter would finish the course later than a person who do it full-time. It's still equally qualified be it full-time or part-time right? If not, then those who have gone through this stage on their own will were just wasting their money and energy having to go to work and study all at the same time.
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Postby chai ching » Mon, 03 Apr 2006 9:12 am

Congratulation to you! You also go on that day (Sat)? What time did you go? What time they call you and what time did you receive their call? Anyway wish you good luck and all the best for you tuesday interview.

singaporegrrl wrote:It's not an interview. We just walked in to attend the briefing on the programme. Yep it's the first ever Cabin Crew Diploma Sponsorship programme.

Selected applicants will be serving as cabin crew on Jetstar Asia for internship and at the same time study for Diploma in Business and Marketing. Selected applicants will be going to school 2 days a week and go to work most of the rest of the week. More of like working and study part-time, but usually a job like cabin crew don't give the opportunity to study part-time because of the irregular working hours. So I guess this is a good opportunity for people to gain experience as a cabin crew and at the same time pursue a diploma.

After completion of programme, you can choose to continue with the programme as Crew In-Charge on Jetstar Asia and be sponsored for a degree, or they can recommend you to Emirates, or you can choose not to continue with SASS Atlantic at all. As mentioned no bond at all. You may wish to work for other airlines, etc.

We filled out an application form and handed it over to the receptionist together with copies of educational certificates and photographs. It's weird that the lady gave me back my full-length photo.

Oh well, the main thing is I got called up just about 3 hours later informing me that I'm shortlisted for an interview with SASS Atlantic this coming Tuesday. Applicants who gets through this stage will be selected to go for an interview with Jetstar Asia end of the week or the week after. Wish me luck guys!

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Postby chai ching » Mon, 03 Apr 2006 9:13 am

Finally your dream has come true. Bet you are very happy about it that you have been selected by them.

singaporegrrl wrote:It's not an interview. We just walked in to attend the briefing on the programme. Yep it's the first ever Cabin Crew Diploma Sponsorship programme.

Selected applicants will be serving as cabin crew on Jetstar Asia for internship and at the same time study for Diploma in Business and Marketing. Selected applicants will be going to school 2 days a week and go to work most of the rest of the week. More of like working and study part-time, but usually a job like cabin crew don't give the opportunity to study part-time because of the irregular working hours. So I guess this is a good opportunity for people to gain experience as a cabin crew and at the same time pursue a diploma.

After completion of programme, you can choose to continue with the programme as Crew In-Charge on Jetstar Asia and be sponsored for a degree, or they can recommend you to Emirates, or you can choose not to continue with SASS Atlantic at all. As mentioned no bond at all. You may wish to work for other airlines, etc.

We filled out an application form and handed it over to the receptionist together with copies of educational certificates and photographs. It's weird that the lady gave me back my full-length photo.

Oh well, the main thing is I got called up just about 3 hours later informing me that I'm shortlisted for an interview with SASS Atlantic this coming Tuesday. Applicants who gets through this stage will be selected to go for an interview with Jetstar Asia end of the week or the week after. Wish me luck guys!

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Postby singaporegrrl » Mon, 03 Apr 2006 9:20 am

I went to the 1300hrs briefing and submitted the form at around 1400+hrs. They called me at around 1730hrs. I'll be attending the 1100hrs interview slot on Tuesday. Well, I can't be too happy yet. There's still a final interview after the one on Tuesday. Shall do my very best.
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Postby donno » Mon, 03 Apr 2006 9:35 am

If you say that part-time and full-time diploma are the same except for the duration, you are wrong.

The diploma you'll be taking is two years. That is part time.
Full time students who take the same number of modules also have to take it for 2 years.

So both are two years.
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