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Post by Mary Hatch Bailey » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 3:41 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
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Dillion wrote:I didn't mention "90%", that's your imaginative statistic. Where was that one plucked from?
Actually it was mine. It's the rough figure for the amount of non-Singaporeans living here. Granted its an old stat, but stat nonetheless. Anyone know the real figure?
It is more a 80/20 split. Check http://www.filmo.com/sgwklife.htm#Population:

(don't forget maids are foreigners and count into the statistics too... :wink: )
Thanks CD. My figure came from a friend who worked for Orientations and I think perhaps it didn't include foreign domestics and construction workers. I think the number should actually have decreased since I heard it 10 years ago.

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Post by earthfriendly » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 3:58 pm

Dillion wrote:Earthfriendly, it's quite unnecessary to infer that I am being politically incorrect - speak for yourself. Also, if you care to read and absorb what has been said - without inference - you may just grasp what is being said.

I was pinpointing that "imposing western ideals" here seems pretty absurd when talking about Japanese behaviour. They are Asian ideals - not western, hence the comment. I didn't mention "90%", that's your imaginative statistic. Where was that one plucked from?
Yes, my post was most certainly presumptous. No need to go into lectures about PC. It should actually go under another thread. My mindset was still at the 51st state thread by MHB when I responded to this one. This inability to transition from one thread to another and to compartmentalize is definitely a weakness of mine.

However, after admitting that, I still don't like the way you responded as I was only trying to help.

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Post by Dillion » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 7:12 pm

l do apologise Earthfriendly for being cutting.

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Post by Cheekybeek » Fri, 10 Mar 2006 7:45 pm

It kinda makes me laugh that I have to dodge people on a daily basis, can't walk without being brushed up against etc. Yet it would seem here in Singapore that just touching someone constitutes 'molestation' and is newsworthy if it happens during a large, crowded event suh as CNY. Shouldn't people be worried about being reported for such spacial invasions?

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Post by earthfriendly » Sat, 11 Mar 2006 1:55 pm

Dillion wrote:l do apologise Earthfriendly for being cutting.
Apology accepted :wink: .

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Post by harry kilmer » Mon, 13 Mar 2006 7:55 am

@Dillion
My advice: go your way!
When I stayed in Singapore I expierenced the same. I got so annoyed of this that I decided to teach the Singaporians a lesson. From one day to another I never stepped to the side for any asian walker that crossed my way in Spore. With a body like a light heavyweight boxing champ( and the skills 8-) ) it was not a big problem to rip through them like a blistering blade through butter.

Once I left a bus, and I was in the way of an student that was running to catch the bus. I saw that he realized that I was in his way, but he just decided to lower his view and pretend not to see me. Big mistake! I body checked that bantamweight and he was flying like a chicken thet got hit by an penalty kick. My personal highlight.

They a born and raised with this attitude so for them it is ok but I still think it is wrong and is caused by very deep-seated selfish nature.

And the way they drive their cars. I was in Jakartta and in Bangkok. The traffic is chaos. There are not really rules existing. Jakarta was hell. I never drove by myself. Just took cabs. First I felt very uncomfotable in the taxis. But later I realised these drivers have skills!
The singaporian taxi drivers are ok, no problem with that. But in Spore you think you are in the civilisation. And they have traffic rules over there, but u find this selfish behaviour even in the traffic like on the pedestrain. It is always me me me
good luck, my friend

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Post by Halekulani » Mon, 13 Mar 2006 8:55 pm

Yep... its called Me-ingapore... and no matter how many people raise dust about this and start accusing us of generalising etc etc etc...its plain and simple ...we are a nation of very selfish and self centred people. I lived abroad for some years and came more than 10 years ago.

All those millions of dollars spent on courtesy campaigns have borne no fruit.

What is really sad..is that some of my expat friends have become like that too after some years here.



harry kilmer wrote:@Dillion
My advice: go your way!
When I stayed in Singapore I expierenced the same. I got so annoyed of this that I decided to teach the Singaporians a lesson. From one day to another I never stepped to the side for any asian walker that crossed my way in Spore. With a body like a light heavyweight boxing champ( and the skills 8-) ) it was not a big problem to rip through them like a blistering blade through butter.

Once I left a bus, and I was in the way of an student that was running to catch the bus. I saw that he realized that I was in his way, but he just decided to lower his view and pretend not to see me. Big mistake! I body checked that bantamweight and he was flying like a chicken thet got hit by an penalty kick. My personal highlight.

They a born and raised with this attitude so for them it is ok but I still think it is wrong and is caused by very deep-seated selfish nature.

And the way they drive their cars. I was in Jakartta and in Bangkok. The traffic is chaos. There are not really rules existing. Jakarta was hell. I never drove by myself. Just took cabs. First I felt very uncomfotable in the taxis. But later I realised these drivers have skills!
The singaporian taxi drivers are ok, no problem with that. But in Spore you think you are in the civilisation. And they have traffic rules over there, but u find this selfish behaviour even in the traffic like on the pedestrain. It is always me me me
good luck, my friend

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Post by Vaucluse » Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:31 am

You're a bit of an inadequate wanker, aren't you harry?!
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Post by tiki » Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:35 am

Vaucluse wrote:You're a bit of an inadequate wanker, aren't you harry?!
Might I suggest 'massive w..' instead Vman?
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Post by Mary Hatch Bailey » Tue, 14 Mar 2006 7:19 pm

harry kilmer wrote:@Dillion
My advice: go your way!
When I stayed in Singapore I expierenced the same. I got so annoyed of this that I decided to teach the Singaporians a lesson. From one day to another I never stepped to the side for any asian walker that crossed my way in Spore. With a body like a light heavyweight boxing champ( and the skills 8-) ) it was not a big problem to rip through them like a blistering blade through butter.

Once I left a bus, and I was in the way of an student that was running to catch the bus. I saw that he realized that I was in his way, but he just decided to lower his view and pretend not to see me. Big mistake! I body checked that bantamweight and he was flying like a chicken thet got hit by an penalty kick. My personal highlight.

They a born and raised with this attitude so for them it is ok but I still think it is wrong and is caused by very deep-seated selfish nature.

And the way they drive their cars. I was in Jakartta and in Bangkok. The traffic is chaos. There are not really rules existing. Jakarta was hell. I never drove by myself. Just took cabs. First I felt very uncomfotable in the taxis. But later I realised these drivers have skills!
The singaporian taxi drivers are ok, no problem with that. But in Spore you think you are in the civilisation. And they have traffic rules over there, but u find this selfish behaviour even in the traffic like on the pedestrain. It is always me me me
good luck, my friend
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Post by sapphire » Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:46 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
It's not getting any smarter out there. You have to come to terms with stupidity, and make it work for you.

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Post by dot dot dot » Wed, 15 Mar 2006 2:26 pm

Mary Hatch Bailey wrote:
Dillion wrote:I didn't mention "90%", that's your imaginative statistic. Where was that one plucked from?
Actually it was mine. It's the rough figure for the amount of non-Singaporeans living here. Granted its an old stat, but stat nonetheless. Anyone know the real figure?
4.7 million inhabitants on this island, of which 400,000 non-singaporeans. According to official figures, but no doubt this is gonna be contradicted by the conspiracy theory lovers on this board....

Eric

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Post by dot dot dot » Wed, 15 Mar 2006 2:31 pm

Yes, I also do hate it when walking on busy Orchard Road here, having to stop all the time in order to not bump into all the other people, 99.99% locals. But the funny thing is, thye never bump into each other, it is always a mad foreigner bumping into them or into another foreigner.

So the Singaporeans never bump, the foreigners do and also do get frustrated as a result.

Now who is the smartest? :o

Eric

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Post by Mary Hatch Bailey » Thu, 16 Mar 2006 5:38 am

Eric from the Netherlands wrote:Now who is the smartest? :o

Eric
It's not a question of who is smarter. Are Singaporeans smarter because they drive on the left? No. It's the way it is done here, that's all. I dodn't think this is a metter than can be helped by using words like right, wrong, smart, etc... Like calling a zebra wrong because it has stripes. Stripes suit the zebra just fine.

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Post by Carpe Diem » Thu, 16 Mar 2006 8:46 am

And do you know why the zebra has stripes?
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