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Changing from PRship to citizenship

Post by renter » Wed, 22 Feb 2006 8:50 am

Hi,

I'd like to know any further restrictions of the citizenship, if I decide to convert from PR under the "skilled worker scheme".

I mainly concern those, eg. how many years you have to stay/work in SG( just like PR for 3 early years in SG at least) after becoming the citizen, or any properties, bank accounts to delcare, etc.

If you know any, do list it there. Thanks.

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Post by yoongf » Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:03 am

U apply for citizenship, not convert.

Application process take 6 months or more.

On the application form, u have to declare everything, including your bloodline. Big brother is watching, and this is the time where they start gathering info.

Once application is approved, u decide whether to accept or not, which requires renunciation of other citizenship.

Once accepted, citizenship is permanent. Whether citizenship is a good thing or not, really depends on one's background and beliefs.

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Post by coarls » Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:33 am

PR is better...after you give up your PR status here in Singapore and decide to go back home you can immediately take all your CPF savings with you (unless you are Malaysian).

But if you become a Citizen, you'll never get the CPF unless you reach retirement age...

Anyway, as previously stated it depends on your need if ever you'll need to become a Citizen or not...
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Post by renter » Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:35 am

thanks for the advice. :)

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Post by Siong2 » Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:53 am

coarls wrote:PR is better...after you give up your PR status here in Singapore and decide to go back home you can immediately take all your CPF savings with you (unless you are Malaysian).

But if you become a Citizen, you'll never get the CPF unless you reach retirement age...

Anyway, as previously stated it depends on your need if ever you'll need to become a Citizen or not...
I agree with coarls, take PR is enough, have best of both sides. :wink:

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Food for thought

Post by GordonGekko » Fri, 24 Feb 2006 7:48 pm

Hey guys,

I opt to disagree. If you live in another country, isn't it reasonable to commit to it by changing your citizenship?
You do what you are.

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Re: Food for thought

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 24 Feb 2006 9:55 pm

GordonGekko wrote:Hey guys,

I opt to disagree. If you live in another country, isn't it reasonable to commit to it by changing your citizenship?
Only if you are allowed to have dual citizenship. or like a lot of native canadians, they have 3 passports: Canadian, British as members of the Commonwealth and US because they have moved there to find work.

Why, if I were invited to another country because of my knowledge and/or talent, should I be forced to take up citizenship? If the country in question needed my skills for the long term it would make sense to give me permanent residence with the "offer of citizenship" not a "requirement". Why should I give up my homeland because of my talents?

If you are looking at it from the perspective of an Economic Migrant then you would have a valid point. However, I believe most of the non-local posters on this board are not regional expats but expats from western countries with a few exceptions of a couple of regulars that are from Malaysia. I would agree with you in this sense as if you are an economic migrant you are leaving your homeland for a better place. Most of the expats I know are here to impart knowledge only. (I use this term VERY liberally however)
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: Food for thought

Post by Global Citizen » Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:28 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote: Most of the expats I know are here to impart knowledge only. (I use this term VERY liberally however)

:D :D
One man's meat is another's poison.

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Mind Vs. Heart

Post by GordonGekko » Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:50 pm

Hi sundaymorning,

Note that I never said that you should be forced to do anything.
I merely suggested that a more partaking attitude (not only with talent, but with heart) towards the place you have the fortune to live in is never wrong.
When you live years on end in a country, why would it be wrong to take that country to your heart and become citizen? :o
You do what you are.

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Post by Siong2 » Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:28 am

^^ me still stick to my view.
Like my wife, she's a Malaysian with a PR here. She can stay here, but if "touch wood", anything happen to me, she is free to go back anytime.
And in the future, I might be applying for Malaysia PR, then we will be able to go which ever side we prefer.

Just a 2 cent worth of opinion. ^^

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