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Postby Bremen » Thu, 09 Feb 2006 4:04 pm

bigfilsing wrote:What is HDTV? ( 720i 720p 1080i 1080p etc etc )
When will we have it on Singapore cable? ( if ever)
LCD uses less power because it's less bright ...go figure

Way too much BS flying around on this subject......


1. High-def tv... Though hopefully most media coming out will be progressive rather than interlaced.

2. We're not psychic. But that's why I said get EDTV, since it's usable NOW.

3. No, that's not the justification. LCD TVs use much less power because they're not super-heating any gases. Totally different technologies, hence totally different power consumption. "Brightness" has less to do with it. Also, Plasma screens have a half-life. LCD TVs don't. If an LCD TV starts getting dim after 3 or 4 years, you pop in a new bulb and it's good as new. Plasma? Buy a new set, since the gas itself has degraded.


So please, no need to spread more BS, Hmmm-kay?
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Postby bigfilsing » Sat, 11 Feb 2006 2:24 am

some fair points Bremen.
You still didnl;t tell what HDTV is though??? What resolution is it???
Did you honestly think i didnlt know what HDTV stood for :-)

And show me a LCD TV that you can "pop" a new lamp in and i'll believe you.

There arn't any true HD screen in Singapore...plasma or other wise. P or I
There's a lot that claim to be but they are merely scaling to suit.

Apparently Pioneer have a couple on test ...true pixel for pixel HD.
so 1080 true verticle resolution. Question is do you have a source.
Most pro video is RGB HV with the HV being the sync signals. Horizontal and verticle respectively.
HD has sync on green!!!!!!!! Now tell me a commercial TV that can handle that !!!
Home work my freind ...do your home work!!

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Postby aus_xpat » Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:32 am

There arn't any true HD screen in Singapore...plasma or other wise. P or I There's a lot that claim to be but they are merely scaling to suit.


Actually... 1080i by definition isn't true HDTV, as the signal is interlaced from 2 540pixel images. 1080p is true HDTV, and you're right, they're not available in Singapore (or just about anywhere) yet.

You should also read up on 1080i interlacing methods, as some (about 50%) of the HDTV sets only use half of the 1080 lines that are transmitted in HD.

In a nutshell, a 1080i signal is transmitted in 2 parts, with 540 odd-numbered horizontal lines, followed by 540 even-numbered lines. The reason a lot of the HDTV's display only half the 1080 lines is that a lot of the manufactures only display the 540-line half-resolution fields sequentially and upconverting them to the native HDTV resolution (720, 768 or 1080 lines). The process is called 'bobbing' or interpolating.

The proper way to do it without any loss is to 'weave' the 2 signals together, but that takes a lot more CPU power, so costs more for the manufacturer.

Here's some stats (from 'The Perfect Vision' magazine):
All Samsung plasma and lcd displays do it properly, none of their rear pro Tv's do.
Just about all Pioneers do it properly.
All JVC's do it properly
All Hitachi's do it properly
All Toshiba's to it properly
Only 2 Sony TV's do it properly
None of the sharp TV's do it properly (LCD, Plasma or front projector)

So keep this in mind when buying a HDTV.

Also, consider that when Blu-ray or HD-DVD hit the mainstream, the only way you will get them to display on your TV in HD is if you have a HDMI input... so you don't want your TV to be out of date in 12 months (it definitely will be if you buy EDTV!).

You might also want to look at rear projection TV. The picture quality is generally better than flat panel (most of the new RPTV's can do great blacks, with excellent colour definition), and the price is often cheaper!

Just my 10cents worth.

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Postby smartguy » Wed, 21 Feb 2007 2:10 pm

SmartRatings.com is the place to inform yourself of the expert reviews for different consumer electronic products especially plasma & LCD TV that you intend to buy. Check it out through this link:

http://www.smartratings.com/electronics/plasma_and_lcds

Happy hunting!

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Postby movingfromjpn » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 5:57 am

quick question on this - i am moving from Japan in a couple of months and have a 50-in HD Panasonic Viera, have been told it cannot be used in Singapore unless i purchase a costly NTSC-PAL adapter, can someone shed some light on this? on the same note, will i be able to use my dvd players and HD videocameras or should i just sell-off the lot?

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Postby audiojunky » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 9:33 am

Hi - I just saw this post. I've also been looking at Plasma/ LCD TVs and realized 2 things while shopping:

1) Most shop assistants have no clue if the TV on display is a 1080p, 1080i or 720p etc. ... and in most cases it is not even mentioned on the brochure or display card. The only exception being if it is a 1080p, sometimes the display card will mention something like "true HD" and sometimes it'll actually say that it is a 1080p.

2) Prices seem to be through the roof compared to the US. My friend just bought a 46" Samsung 1080p for $2600, which would equate to around S$ 4000. Here the price of a 46" 1080p is over S$ 7000!!!

Final word, both 1080p and 1080i have the same resolution (1920 x 1080) with 1080p being better since it's progressive and 1080i being interlaced. Hence, don't get fooled if you see a resolution of 1920 x 1080 and think its true HD, cause it might not be.

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Postby bigfilsing » Fri, 16 Mar 2007 4:42 pm

There are other issues too. Quoting just the resolution doesn;t hack it! What about the frame rate???? 1080p or i looks crap at 10 frames a second.
The old High def standard was pretty good RGB with tri level sync on green. When whacked through an ILA projector ( infinate resolution) it was fantastic.

I'm still not sure what the HD is that Star Hub are offering. Nobody on the phone seems to know what the hell their talkin about. :mad:

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Postby ksl » Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:19 am

bigfilsing wrote:There are other issues too. Quoting just the resolution doesn;t hack it! What about the frame rate???? 1080p or i looks crap at 10 frames a second.
The old High def standard was pretty good RGB with tri level sync on green. When whacked through an ILA projector ( infinate resolution) it was fantastic.

I'm still not sure what the HD is that Star Hub are offering. Nobody on the phone seems to know what the hell their talkin about. :mad:


Here's an update on LCD & Plasma for 2007.

Samsung will also unveil 70- and 82-inch panels later in 2007, the sources added. A seventh-generation (7G) substrate can be cut into three 52-inch panels or two 70-inch panels, the sources said.

LG.Philips LCD schedules to roll out its first 52-inch full high-definition (HD) panel in April, panel makers said. The panel will have dynamic contrast ratio of 5,000:1 and response time of 5ms. The Korea-based player has already started shipping 55-inch TV panels in small volumes, the makers added.

AUO will introduce 65-inch TV panel as early as the third quarter of 2007, the sources said. In addition, AUO may very likely roll out 52-inch panels to meet demand in the second half of 2007, the sources indicated.

Following the launch of a 56-inch quad full high definition (QFHD) panel (3,840×2,160), CMO will add two new 52-inch TV panels this year, the sources noted.

Despite the aggressive plans from the LCD panel makers in the large-size TV market, PDP TV will still dominate the 50-inch class flat-panel TV market in the near term thanks to its pricing advantage, the sources explained. The sales volume for 50-inch class LCD TVs will only account for 1% of total LCD TV shipments in 2007,


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