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Post by tarsier » Sun, 27 Nov 2005 2:20 pm

Hihi..
Hope u can help with any of my questions below..
Grateful for your replies.. :)



I'm Singaporean & my boyfriend is Filipino. I would like to know when we get married in a civil marriage, would he be able to gain Permanent Resident status? What is the process like? How long would it take & how much does it cost?

With PR status, is he allowed to work in any field & not restricted to work in the marine & construction industries?

Would appreciate any suggestions or recommendations for a job for my boyfriend. He only has high school education. He is a divemaster.

Also i read about the National Service Liability. My boyfriend is 25 years old. When he gain PR status, is he liable for 2 years of National Service?

I would like to know if a Filipino is required to show an onward travel ticket or a return air ticket to Philippines when he flies in to Singapore?
Would a Malaysia - Philippines air ticket suffice?

Thank you all!

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Post by Vaucluse » Sun, 27 Nov 2005 6:43 pm

Marrying a Singapore citizen does not automatically grant the otehr party Singapore PR or even the right to stay beyoned their existing visa.
I would like to know if a Filipino is required to show an onward travel ticket or a return air ticket to Philippines when he flies in to Singapore?
Would a Malaysia - Philippines air ticket suffice?


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Post by Carpe Diem » Sun, 27 Nov 2005 6:44 pm

tarsier wrote:With PR status, is he allowed to work in any field & not restricted to work in the marine & construction industries?

Also i read about the National Service Liability. My boyfriend is 25 years old. When he gain PR status, is he liable for 2 years of National Service?
Yes he should be able to get any type of job.

And he is not liable for NS, but your kids will be.
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Post by tarsier » Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:33 am

Hi,

thank you all for your replies.. keep them rolling in please..

Hi editor,

I understand that we would have to apply for SPR after the civil marriage in Singapore. Its possible & quite straight forward right? Any special requirements that we have to look out for?
thanks!

[quote="Vaucluse"]Marrying a Singapore citizen does not automatically grant the otehr party Singapore PR or even the right to stay beyoned their existing visa.

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Post by riversandlakes » Sat, 03 Dec 2005 5:39 am

Oh, interesting. I've been looking at the 2nd requirement of "P/Q/R working pass" all the while.

Seems like marriage for PR is not more advantageous than getting a job here beforehand...
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Post by yoongf » Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:01 am

Hmm..

I think we need to look at things in perspective. Marriage and PR are 2 separate issued. Marriage does not automatically mean PR is a given. From what I have gathered …

The criteria for a successful PR application is a well guarded state secret. It suggests a points system but the passing mark seems to be a moving target depending on the priorities of the govt at the time of the application. Certain times, skills like arts/chefs seems to carry more weight, other times, wealth, other times is the ability to pro-create. I would think this policy of a moving target is to avoid a situation where applicants can try to second guess the application approval chances.

But from my observation, there seems to be several fundamental areas which is evergreen in getting a successful application.

The potential to contribute to the local economy. (Investments, spending power, etc)
The intent to establish roots and settle down in Sg. (Baby boomers, NS)
The potential to blend in with the local society without upsetting the existing composition ratio.

Therefore, for a successful application…I believe..

Getting a job is paramount followed by spending a reasonable time in Sg. Marriage alone, does not carry much weight, unless the applicant has produced some baby citizens already.

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Post by riversandlakes » Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:48 pm

Nice insight, yoongf.

I was thinking that marriage will expedite the application or give it more weightage...
But surely the govt cannot logically refuse to put a family together after marriage by insisting the guy travel back and forth the Causeway every fortnight?
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Post by yoongf » Sun, 04 Dec 2005 12:20 am

http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/printfrien ... 18,00.html

Actually, it's a pretty common issue for many blue collar families, who spouse is usually a Malaysian. Work Permit Holder falls in love with a Singaporean but just don't qualify for PR or citizen. Another affected group are the ones with spouses in Batam.

All these regulations.. and yet China or vietnam brides have a relatively easier path to PR/ citizenship. There are many interesting agendas in such a policy/practice, but I think it's too sensitive to discuss openly. Such a practice, is what makes Sg so intriguing to outsiders, but tolerated by ppl who have been here long enough.

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Post by riversandlakes » Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:25 pm

So the spouse's only remedy is to climb up the social ladder and become white-collar? :o
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Post by Lestat » Wed, 28 Dec 2005 4:40 pm

Hello,

My wife to be is Filipino and I am Singaporean Chinese. My wife to be received a letter from MOM informing her that she does not need to apply for approval to marry me because her work permit is of a higher level.

Also, I have inquired with ICA and they informed me that once we marry, she can apply for PR which she will most probably get.

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Post by riversandlakes » Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:45 pm

Say, what's your wife's work permit type? Q/R/S?

And ... Lestat! Have you met Armand recently? :o:o
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Post by Lestat » Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:30 am

riversandlakes wrote:Say, what's your wife's work permit type? Q/R/S?

And ... Lestat! Have you met Armand recently? :o:o
I don't know her work permit type. Anyway, Who is Armand?

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Post by madwolfie » Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:59 pm

Armand is another ancient one... Lestat. Don't you know him? :shock:

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Post by Lestat » Wed, 11 Jan 2006 9:33 am

madwolfie wrote:Armand is another ancient one... Lestat. Don't you know him? :shock:
Oh so you mean the vampire Armand. I thought you meant Amanda which I misread. Haven't seen him... Only Marius is around.

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