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Inconsiderate Noisy Neighbours

Post by gayamundoiel » Fri, 11 Nov 2005 2:06 pm

Hi everyone,

I stay in a mature condominium near Clementi, and many of the units are rented out. Most of the tenants are decent people, but unfortunately, the unit above mine prove otherwise.

The tenants are foreign students.. Since they moved in last year, I had to put up with loud footsteps and dragging furniture, at unearthly hours (1~5am). Once, one of them even stared me down in a threatening manner when I complained. The noise and threat has given me many sleepless nights. Once, they even employed the services of a prostitute, and were making loud unbearable noises the entire night.

The residents committee and management said there is little they can do about it except to send letters to the owner. The owner is money-minded and neither responsible nor considerate. He is unavailable most of the time, and he claims he is overseas whenever management tries to contact him.

The previous tenants were also the same. Upon receiving a warning letter from the management, the house owner asked the previous tenants to leave to avoid being sued by management. However, he rented the unit out to the current group, who are also friends of the previous group – thus the noise problem persists.

Without evidence, it is difficult to do anything to the owner. I suggested putting up recording devices to monitor the noise, but the management told me that I need a neutral party like security guards to witness the noise. But the noise generation is random, and most guards will not hear it unless they station themselves permanently inside my unit.

I am at the end of my tether, having lived with the noise for almost 1.5 years.

I am wondering if there is anything that can be done, and if anyone has been through this and can share any advice? What action can I take?

Desperate-for-sleep.

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Post by uncle_james » Fri, 11 Nov 2005 4:23 pm

surprisingly you can bear 1.5years...
since you can't change them,
how about changing yourself?

can't sleep? sleeping pills might help (not advisable)
or even buy a good ear plugs?

try to talk to them again,
but with the accompany of your muscular friends
or ganster look friends... :twisted:

not sure if you seeking help from the embassy of these students will help ... or try to call police as the negotiator?
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Post by joop » Fri, 11 Nov 2005 4:26 pm

Not much can be done, it's best to speak to the neighbours about it and get a resolution from it. The security guards, management or police can't do much about it, noise is also subjective to individuals.
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thanks

Post by gayamundoiel » Fri, 11 Nov 2005 4:41 pm

thanks for your input.

i've tried sleeping pills AND ear-plugs

sleeping pills: works , hopefully i will die from an overdose one day - no more neighbour troubles then.

ear plugs: does not work cos the noise is like a sudden impact, i can feel the whole floor vibrating.

of course i've tried changing myself. obviously i have a character defect, cos i still can't sleep.

the management said as much - nobody can do anything. tough luck that i stay in such a condominium. makes me think HDB is better. at least twon council gives a damn. i just don't know if there is much of a case if i sue the owner.

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Post by uncle_james » Fri, 11 Nov 2005 6:56 pm

perhaps you can reflect the problem to the police
and i believe the police will pay a visit to your neighbor
hope this will scare up your neighbor...
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I feel you pain....

Post by Saif » Fri, 11 Nov 2005 9:47 pm

I feel bad for you, I'm not surprised that the people that's supposed to help, aren't. That's the way this country is. It took me a while to get use to it too. I've been living here for a while, so I think I have a right to my opinion or fact on this one. It shocks me that as strict as the government is, Singaporeans are still so rude and unhelpful. Not all but a fair bit. I'm from the U.S. and in the U.S. this situation would be corrected with a 9mm up the you know what. Not saying the U.S. is all that For you American haters :wink: In Singapore we can't give that kind of justice. I wish I could give you some advice that wouldn't land you in jail. Sorry. Uncle james had a good one though. Maybe the Intimidation thing will work. As for the change your self jive. You can only change so much!!!


Saif....

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Post by Vaucluse » Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:33 pm

I'm from the U.S. and in the U.S. this situation would be corrected with a 9mm up the you know what. Not saying the U.S. is all that For you American haters In Singapore we can't give that kind of justice.


You have got to be joking . . . Please not another thread about gun-totin' jag-off's . . .

We'll have the Euro's on one side saying that there are hardly any crimes involving weapons and how stupid it is to allow mental midgets to own guns, and the Yank brigade, led by the ever faithful T2K saying that it's everyone's right to bear arms and kill people if necessary, SE will tell us how bad it is in otehr countries Australia (but not give us a clue as to what numbers they may be, but fails to mention that the worst gun-related crime countries are Jamaica, S. Africa, Brazil - all of them beacons of freedom) - next up will be Eric going troppo at SMs and then everything's in the crapper.

There! The thread's done - let's leave it . . .



Noisy neighbours? Call the cops and they will speak to them - private property or not - irrelevant.
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Re: I feel you pain....

Post by Mary Hatch Bailey » Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:06 pm

Saif wrote:I feel bad for you, I'm not surprised that the people that's supposed to help, aren't. That's the way this country is. It took me a while to get use to it too. I've been living here for a while, so I think I have a right to my opinion or fact on this one. It shocks me that as strict as the government is, Singaporeans are still so rude and unhelpful. Not all but a fair bit. I'm from the U.S. and in the U.S. this situation would be corrected with a 9mm up the you know what. Not saying the U.S. is all that For you American haters :wink: In Singapore we can't give that kind of justice. I wish I could give you some advice that wouldn't land you in jail. Sorry. Uncle james had a good one though. Maybe the Intimidation thing will work. As for the change your self jive. You can only change so much!!!


Saif....
Saif you are a fool of epic proportions. Go away and never come back.

Gayamundoiel: go to a marine supply store, buy a air horn in a can. Wait until their apartment gets quiet for an hour or so after a long night of partying, then stand outside and blast them. Do it again, an hour later.

Works wonders
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Post by Mary Hatch Bailey » Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:13 pm

Vaucluse wrote:
I'm from the U.S. and in the U.S. this situation would be corrected with a 9mm up the you know what. Not saying the U.S. is all that For you American haters In Singapore we can't give that kind of justice.


You have got to be joking . . . Please not another thread about gun-totin' jag-off's . . .

We'll have the Euro's on one side saying that there are hardly any crimes involving weapons and how stupid it is to allow mental midgets to own guns, and the Yank brigade, led by the ever faithful T2K saying that it's everyone's right to bear arms and kill people if necessary, SE will tell us how bad it is in otehr countries Australia (but not give us a clue as to what numbers they may be, but fails to mention that the worst gun-related crime countries are Jamaica, S. Africa, Brazil - all of them beacons of freedom) - next up will be Eric going troppo at SMs and then everything's in the crapper.

There! The thread's done - let's leave it . . .



Noisy neighbours? Call the cops and they will speak to them - private property or not - irrelevant.
Wow! Look at you! You're acting out your own little 'Theatre of Pain' over there. Don't hurt yourself, remember your blood pressure dear... :roll:

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Post by Vaucluse » Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:28 pm

Blood pressure is fine, thanks Ma'am!


You're acting out your own little 'Theatre of Pain' over there



(Well, I do have two co-authored books . . . Don't get too excited, they are purely used on the lecture series on Economic History and Theory . . . Yawn, I know . . . But I am working on another one, but it's simply nt getting off the ground)

Anyway - I prefer your airhorn tip!!!!! Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
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Post by uncle_james » Sat, 12 Nov 2005 2:41 am

this remind me a tragedy..

my secondary school senior
was shoot when he is taking lift to his apartment at KL, Cheras, 3 years ago. 2 shots in chest, 1 in stomach, he killed on the spot...
The gunman is his neighbor stay downstair, who later shot himself with the same gun.

One letter found in the gunman hand ....(translate from chinese)

"I cannot stand the Crazy Fellow (my senior) making so many noise every night for the past 2 years,
so, i decided to buy a gun to finish him!..."

Obviously, the gun-man who has been mentally tortured for so long time didnot chose the best way to solve the problem...

So, gayamundoiel ... be COOL!
There is always a solution...

Since your tether is ending soon,
might as well find yourself a new place.
A fresh environment will help you :)
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Post by Scorpion » Sat, 12 Nov 2005 4:07 am

Have bitter experience too with the neighbor complaints couple of times.

Actually it was on an opposite way,

Last year we had got a pay-per-view sports channel and gathered @ my friend HDB home. as usual when the match was getting bit tensed all my mates started making noises as we were in a good enjoyment mood with help of some wine and beer bottle’z. We realized that only when we were knocked on the door by 3 police sergeant approx 3am in the morning

It was kind of embarrassing state to know the neighbor on the opposite corner on the same block has complained about it to the police but not our immediate neighbor who stay just next to the house on both sides :x

Anyway we felt, that if the neighbor had any problems could have approached us first instead of calling down the police
:shit:

But I feel most of the times the police here are efficient than other countries reason may be less crowd to cover and less crime to cover
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Post by Mary Hatch Bailey » Sat, 12 Nov 2005 7:22 am

Vaucluse wrote:Anyway - I prefer your airhorn tip!!!!! Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
Came in quite handy while docked near a noisy batchelor party (?) We had to get an early start to make the tide to Marth'a Vineyard, so when we passed them an hour or two after the quieted down: BLAST! right in the starboard porthole.

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Post by Vaucluse » Sat, 12 Nov 2005 9:47 am

BLAST! right in the starboard porthole


Interesting terminology you have on Martha's . . . :)
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Post by Wham » Sun, 13 Nov 2005 7:47 am

When i lived in NY City there was a guy that would double park outside our building at about 1:00 am with the radio blaring and the windows open several times a week. I think he would be double parked while waiting for a parking spot to open. In addition to calling the police, i set up a yahoo address called "shortfatblad%^$&$%^$noisyguy@yahoo.com" and then taped a flyer to everydoor in the neighborhood, to several telephone poles, and also one on his windsheild. In the letter I encouraged others that were equally upset to write to the address. THat way i came to understand that there were several others also irritated. But the best thing is that he quickly realized what a spectacle he was making and was embarrassed into submission. I think he got the impression that there were suddenly MANY eyes on him.

How about setting up an address with their apt number and building number etc in the e-mail address and then putting up an open letter in the vacinity.
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