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Should I migrate to australia?

Post by engineer » Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:26 am

help! i am planning to migrate from singapore to
australia. should it be melbourne or sydney?
or should i chicken out and stay in singapore
or return back to work in malaysia?
any tips on how to setting a new home in
australia? where can i get infor?
or pls drop me a line at engineer9000@yahoo.com.
will be highly appreciated!

Auditor

Post by Auditor » Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:09 pm

Hi. I have the same struggle, to stay in spore or back to malaysia or to australia. It all voice down to what you are looking for. Is all about yourself. Don't say chicken out and go back to malaysia. Don't look down on yourself. Look forward and know what you want in life and where do you want to head to. If there's a peace in your heart, then go for it. I have drag my application for years, and I have yet to decide. Hope I will make a decision by next year. All the best yah!

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Post by Guest » Sat, 03 Sep 2005 6:30 pm

Auditor wrote:Hi. I have the same struggle, to stay in Singapore or back to malaysia or to australia. It all voice down to what you are looking for. Is all about yourself. Don't say chicken out and go back to malaysia. Don't look down on yourself. Look forward and know what you want in life and where do you want to head to. If there's a peace in your heart, then go for it. I have drag my application for years, and I have yet to decide. Hope I will make a decision by next year. All the best yah!

engineer

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Post by engineer » Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:20 pm

Anonymous wrote:
Auditor wrote:Hi. I have the same struggle, to stay in Singapore or back to malaysia or to australia. It all voice down to what you are looking for. Is all about yourself. Don't say chicken out and go back to malaysia. Don't look down on yourself. Look forward and know what you want in life and where do you want to head to. If there's a peace in your heart, then go for it. I have drag my application for years, and I have yet to decide. Hope I will make a decision by next year. All the best yah!
hi auditor,

ha ha ha, very funny but i guess u r right. thks for yr encouragement.
but i think u have to hurry yrself too as what i heard is that the australian govt reviews the rules 2 times each year! it is probably an opportunity of a decade, but to some may well be an opportunity of a lifetime!

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Post by k1w1 » Sat, 03 Sep 2005 8:06 pm

Weigh it up: reasons to go and reasons to stay.

What exactly is it that you are worried about? What kind of opportunities are open to you there that you may not have access to here? Do you have children - is lifestyle or education a consideration?

Your income will dictate where you might prefer to go (Sydney is more expensive), and the type of lifestyle you might have.

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Post by auditor » Sun, 04 Sep 2005 12:54 am

hi auditor,

ha ha ha, very funny but i guess u r right. thks for yr encouragement.
but i think u have to hurry yrself too as what i heard is that the australian govt reviews the rules 2 times each year! it is probably an opportunity of a decade, but to some may well be an opportunity of a lifetime![/quote]

helo engineer,
waht's so funny? :p you made up your mind? you applying?

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Post by Vaucluse » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:44 am

Think about it carefull, think about what you are looking for there that you cannot have here (and don't even go to 'big house, three cars' stuff - it doesn't happen. Sydney and Melbourne are very expensive places to live, especially to start out).
Immigration criteria are quite stringent, so explaore what you can provide to Australia and hope that this profession is needed at the moment.

Don't believe the nonsensical propaganda that it's an easy working life there and so stressy here - if anything it is the other way around.

Many Sings and Malaysians have returned to their home country after realising that not all that glitters is gold.
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Post by Guest » Thu, 08 Sep 2005 6:07 pm

Care to eloborate why Ah Sing and Ahmad want to return from the land of kangaroo? Racial? Glass ceiling?

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Post by bruce » Sun, 11 Sep 2005 5:35 am

Vaucluse wrote:Think about it carefull, think about what you are looking for there that you cannot have here (and don't even go to 'big house, three cars' stuff - it doesn't happen. Sydney and Melbourne are very expensive places to live, especially to start out).
Immigration criteria are quite stringent, so explaore what you can provide to Australia and hope that this profession is needed at the moment.

Don't believe the nonsensical propaganda that it's an easy working life there and so stressy here - if anything it is the other way around.

Many Sings and Malaysians have returned to their home country after realising that not all that glitters is gold.


ha!

quite an astute observation! but i dont see locally getting any
better so it is a matter of choosing the lesser evil now.
Singapore is picking up again but will it ever reach its
peak as before? i think not. Singapore is getting increasingly
difficult to find jobs because other ASEAN countries are slowly
catching up and not to mention a growing China which will see
people migrating to there to work in the future. I am not
going to stay until Singapore hit bottom. Dont get me wrong,
Singapore will still maintain a healthy growth in the future,
but unless if you are exceptionally bright academically or
rich or have enterprenuer skills that are needed here,
you are not going to last very long here. If you cant take it,
how do you think your little ones will take it?
i personally believe if you can assimilate well with the
culture there then the problem is less but it wont dissappear
entirely. if you cant assimilate then whether you are ah seng
or some bigshot, you will feel terrible miserable there and
will regret migrating there.
No matter how bad in Australia, you always still have hope.
But locally here, I dont see any light beyond the ends of the tunnel.
But then again I dont have a PhD!

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Post by Vaucluse » Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:00 am

Bruce - nice response and quite valid comments about Singapore and her place in S/E Asia, bith currently and in the future.

I guess what I wanted to convey was that Australia is not the land of milk and honey - if it were, why are there so many Aussies living abroad?

Guest, it's not so much the racist thing nor the glass ceiling - bith of which are quite minimal now, though by no means gone.

Almost every taxi driver, flight attendant, shop assistant I meet tell me they are going to emigrate to Austarlia. Fair enough, but why? Reasons like big house and three cars don't count, as I mentioned before. I would suggest that Malaysians have more reasons to make the jump, especially Chinese Malaysians as their future is fairly cloudy, especialy after the currect PM leaves office.

Singaporeans, in general, do not realise how much of an edge they have over their regional neighbours = use the advantage and don;t throw in the cards because 'they work cheaper than we do' . . .

I'd ratehr live here than in Oz, well at least for the next few years and then who-knows-where . . .
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Post by kk_lass » Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:00 pm

I think it eventually boils to what do you want in ur life??
What do you see yourself in 5/10/15yrs time??
Or what do you WANT to see yourself in 5/10/15 yrs time??
In term of your family ... your occupation ... your recreation/past-times .. your opportunity.... your health .... your desire ....

Answer these.. perharps we will have a clearer vision and direction.. If not, at least it will narrow down your decisions.. if not, at least, you know yourself better ... and not live blindly.... :)

Then in the end, u earn and learn something.. Congrats! :D
All the best then ! :cool:

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take care :wink:
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Post by riversandlakes » Thu, 06 Oct 2005 1:22 am

like what previous posters say, my reason for moving out of the country was because i wanted to see and learn more, and to make more at the same time.

what're your reasons? to ensure they are based on real and valid researched factors is the best thing you can do for yourself.

i don't know about other malaysian chinese folks, but i left because there was no patriotism at all; my duty lies ONLY to family, and what better contribution can i make, but by sending home the extra RM500 a month than what i would have made back in KL?
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But the world is full of fluffier ones.

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Post by kk_lass » Thu, 06 Oct 2005 5:09 pm

riversandlakes wrote:like what previous posters say, my reason for moving out of the country was because i wanted to see and learn more, and to make more at the same time.

what're your reasons? to ensure they are based on real and valid researched factors is the best thing you can do for yourself.

i don't know about other malaysian chinese folks, but i left because there was no patriotism at all; my duty lies ONLY to family, and what better contribution can i make, but by sending home the extra RM500 a month than what i would have made back in KL?
I think i have the same reason with riversandlakes.. I came to Singapore, moving out of my country because in Singapore, i was able to learn and see more .. As i came here to study first... then now working.. I didn't go back now, coz i know that back in my country, i don't think i can earn the same salary.. So here i am, still in Singapore.. So far it provides me lots of good opportunity.. and a convenient place to travel to other countries too..

Maybe i will leave next year .. maybe in a couple of years .. maybe never.. But i will always reflect my direction and results yearly and ensure that i am in parallel with my goal. If i am happy with my results, then it is good. If i feel i can do and deserve more, then i shall review the availability of the opportunity. I guess we have to flexible and adaptable to this ever-changing society.. :) Our mind is like parachute, it can work wonders and best when it is open

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