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Post by uk-kiwi » Sun, 28 Aug 2005 2:58 pm

just realised i posted this in the wrong place first time round!!

hi - just looking for advice on playschool for my 19mth old. i'm looking for 3 mornings a week for him as in the UK he was going to nursery full time and loved the stimulation, carers, other kids etc as well as me wanting a few hrs a week to do other things. here it seems a little different in that unless it's a full on expat play school (which all have 1 yr wait lists anyway) then it's quite structured with less physical play than he is used to. does anyone have experience of kinderland academy in watten park or Amazing Star montessori...there is a new one off bukit timah road but it seems there are a few more around that someone may have been to? also, the children here seem to sleep in the afternoon even up to 5 or 6 years old - is that weird or just where i come from? thanks....!!

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Post by hellothere » Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:22 pm

Hi...Kiwi....kids here tend to sleep a lot cos Singapore parents believed rest are important for mental well being.

Sorry....could not be of help...as I am not familiar with Bukit Timah area.
However, Pat's Schoolhouse, Eton and Modern Montessori are good schools that u can consider.

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Post by malumbas » Thu, 01 Sep 2005 4:09 pm

Hi here's my 2C.

First off, I think many of the local kids are kept up much later in the evenings than we in the UK would be used to - I think primarily because parents tend to work long hours and so the evenings are family time. I often see very young kids up and out for dinner as late as 10 in the evening - I know mine are always tucked up in bed and asleep at around 7.30pm so would not need a long nap in the daytime.

In terms of your options, it really depends what you are looking for. Given that you want somewhere you can drop him off and leave him for a few hours presumably you want more than just a playgroup type of thing. There are a vast number of kindergartens/pre-schools/childcare centres around. Just take a look in Yellow Pages! Bear in mind that the climate here means a lot of the activities are indoors although many places do have outdoor playgrounds the kids don't seem to use them much. These type of childcare places are geared (in my opinion) towards local kids and tend to focus on things like learning ABC's, practising numbers, doing colouring in etc. Many describe themselves as Montessori but they are not what I would call "proper" Montessori, they just use Montessort materials or have a half hour of Montessori a day. I would say they vary in quality but your best bet is to go and see a few near where you live and just see how you feel. Then there are others which are more popular with Expats such as White Lodge, Pibo's Playhouse and others - best option is just to turn up and see if you can have a look around, then you will get a feel for how friendly they are, what the mix of kids is, and what the kids are doing and what the routines are. For example some of them give the kids showers and put them down for a nap but there is no way on earth I would want a stranger giving my kid a shower!

Another option would be something like Julia Gabriel where there is more emphasis on creativity, music, art and so on but am not sure if they can go unattended at this age.

A third option would be a nursery class at one of the International Schools such as the German European school, or somewhere like Eton House or Chatsworth, which is more expensive option and a bit more like "real" school although there would be more emphasis on play. Typically they use expatriate teachers who have trained or worked in Europe or Australia so might be more in tune with UK attitudes. They usually take kids unattended from 2 years.

Hope that helps

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Post by Mercy » Thu, 01 Sep 2005 5:39 pm

Pat's Schoolhouse, Eton and Modern Montessori are good schools that u can consider
Agree, was there too. I am also looking for a playgroop for my son. Also for 3 mornings a week. But these three are rather expensive - around SGD700 per month. For three mornigs a week it's quite a high price.
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Post by Tania Gai » Tue, 06 Sep 2005 7:27 pm

Hi UK Kiwi and welcome to Singapore!

I have a 19 month old and at the moment she attends a little school within our condos which she loves. However next year I am sending her to White Lodge which is off Bukit Timah Rd (closer to Sixth Ave). I did some scouting around at various places such as Eton House, JG etc and have chosen to try White Lodge. What has helped is also knowing alot of people who have been happy (or should I say, whose kids have been happy) with White Lodge.

If you have the opportunity to go and view some of them with your child and go with your instinct.

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Post by uk-kiwi » Tue, 06 Sep 2005 9:08 pm

it's all quite different here, i guess to cater to local children, or should i say their parents. i have been to 5 already and tried to contact another few but they had 1 yr waitlists so i've decided to wait till we're in our new condo and maybe even wait until he's at least two. thanks everyone for your replies and help!

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Post by k1w1 » Wed, 07 Sep 2005 8:45 pm

I know this is opening a bit of a can of worms, but don't be afraid of trying the local pre-schools (if you haven't already). Someone above mentioned that they can be too focused on academia (and that has been my experience too), but I think if you tell them you are not interested in that, they may back off a bit - ours did.

We live in Bukit Timah and there are a couple of pre-schools near our place which are technically local but are popular with expats as well.

Also, some pre-schools will not be too keen on enrolling your son for three half-days so you will need to be clear about that when loking around.

I am also suprised by six year olds having a sleep at pre-school. I am more surprised by the time that a lot of kids (in our condo anyway) are still up riding bikes and playing outside. Egg and chicken situation, perhaps...

If you're still looking, let me know and I can tell you the names of the places near us (there are 4 on our block alone).

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Post by uk-kiwi » Sat, 10 Sep 2005 8:19 am

hi kiwi, yes plse tell me which pre-schools you are referring to. i went to look at raffles house which i thought was great - excellent teachers but the place was just a bit clinical with not much colour. then i went to amazing star which was the opposite in that it was new, bright colours, lots of art work, but even i had a bit of trouble understanding the baby school teacher! i'm just a bit confused....thanks.

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Post by k1w1 » Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:20 am

Hi Uk-Kiwi,

the schools near us that I was referring to are:

Willow Nursery: pretty international, run by expats, but is open to locals.

The Learning Ladder: Affiliated with the Canadian school, but is open to local kids too.

These are the ones that are particularly popular with expats and are open to locals. They are both on Toh Tuck Road.

Otherwise there is Cambridge Child Development Centre (a chain of centres) and Carpe Diem. There are a few expat kids at these schools too (including mine!)

The first two centres are open only to kids aged 2 1/2 years, while the other two are open from 18 months old.

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Post by uk-kiwi » Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:55 pm

okay - last time i talk about this topic! thanks for everyone's advice so far. i just have one more request. could anyone who's children have attended Pibo's Garden Playschool plse let me know how their experience went. v. interested. my son is enrolled in a play school with mostly local children which is okay and he has exposure to mandarin which is good, but apart from the principal who is helping him settle in i don't get a sense of affection and real caring from the other teachers. they're quite standoffish and even when children are crying they are at times just left. my son is quite tough but he's also very affectionate and i would like to know that he is cared for more than 'taught'. especially as it's just for a bit of extra stimulation and different activities for him! so any responses on Pibos greatly appreciated as i'm v. close to changing pre schools.

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