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Postby Guest » Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:50 pm

Anonymous wrote:I'm an engineer myself, earn only half your pay. So shut up and go back to work!!! Stay where you are now, because you can't get any higher anymore anywhere.



what a loser

people like you ensure there will always be people like you,

if you want more money be prepared to travel- asfar as it takes

take positive steps to achieve your aims
these posts give the impression singapore is a rich country mostly full of poor people who are underachievers
want more ? try overseas jobs . dont want to do that?
then enjoy what life you have
no success getting overseas? recognise your weaknesses and work at them
that make you a contender not a loser

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Postby AnITEngineer » Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:23 pm

Anonymous wrote:I'm an engineer myself, earn only half your pay. So shut up and go back to work!!! Stay where you are now, because you can't get any higher anymore anywhere.


Instead of telling me to shut up and go back to work, why don't you search for more ways to move up the value chain? Since apparently you're not happy with what you're getting. I've accepted that I may not be able to get higher anywhere else as an Engineer. Fine, I'll move up to become an Architect then. What's the big deal? You think you can't get more than 3k? Fine, look for another company then. Or increase your value as an employee. What's the problem?

This is what I don't get about people sometimes. You talk to them about increasing your income, they say, "you're lucky! don't always look up, look down also and be content." (well duh?! If I wanted to be content I wouldn't talk about it in the first place huh?!)

You talk to them about how to be rich, they say, "nah, just because you're rich doesn't mean you're happy." (well duh?! everything else being equal I'd rather be rich?!).

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Postby Guest » Thu, 11 Aug 2005 5:05 pm

Anonymous wrote:I'm an engineer myself, earn only half your pay. So shut up and go back to work!!! Stay where you are now, because you can't get any higher anymore anywhere.


:D If you guys out there seriously feel that you want a career that has unlimited income potential or for other reasons, maybe you can consider about having a causal discussion with my Recruiting Manager regarding Financial Planner position. I am not suggesting you to change your job but to find out if a better opportunity exists for you since you are wondering whether you are being paid according to what you are worth.

If you are interested, drop me a mail @ info@grinweiv.com. I will contact you shortly to give you a brief introduction and you can decided whether you are still interested to go ahead with the meet up.

:?: So what do ya guys think? Give it a though, will ya?

AnITEngineer

Postby AnITEngineer » Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:14 am

:D If you guys out there seriously feel that you want a career that has unlimited income potential or for other reasons, maybe you can consider about having a causal discussion with my Recruiting Manager regarding Financial Planner position. I am not suggesting you to change your job but to find out if a better opportunity exists for you since you are wondering whether you are being paid according to what you are worth.

If you are interested, drop me a mail @ info@grinweiv.com. I will contact you shortly to give you a brief introduction and you can decided whether you are still interested to go ahead with the meet up.

:?: So what do ya guys think? Give it a though, will ya?
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Hey, I'd like to know. How much do you earn per month? Do you earn more than 10k / month? That's my target for 2007.

Thanks in advance.

Guest

Postby Guest » Sun, 14 Aug 2005 10:39 pm

well, maybe it is time to get rid of the Engineer from your title, then your pay will be at gear 1 again. :D

and replace it with Manager or Chief or VP or something. U gotta move to the corporate level and are in charge of some accounting numbers, to move up.

when you reach VP, it's time to change your skin to white, hair to yellow, and eyes to blue with american accent in order to move up to the ultimate level. :lol:

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Postby AngMo Guest » Mon, 15 Aug 2005 4:51 pm

I was working as OP Manager in an local IT company as Singapore PR (Ang Mo) and got 2k/Month and was happy to work there. Money is not everything in life although essential for living. If you are not happy there, just move on. Cant be choosy nowadays except you are really 'specialist'. But looks like that almost everybody here is a specialist. There are no differences. We are all green. But somehow some are greener than others...

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Postby Guest » Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:17 pm

I agree with above said. happiness is the ultimate factor that u can stay in a job for long. and usually it is not the job itself, but the people around u make u happy and make u stay.

from my past experiences of various jobs, lower paid jobs somehow offer more happiness than higher paid specialized jobs. Just my opinion. Psychology may somehow prove it true.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:53 pm

It would be a good thing if the IT world stopped using the word "engineer" for "programmer". Come on. Originally, the term developed for people who did the programming for a variety of chips... sometimes the programming was hardwired. There was a very fine line between the guy who designed the chip itself (the electrical engineer) and the guy that actually put some smarts into it (the software engineer).

But now we have people who write high level applications in third of fourth generation languages, designed to run under an OS and they call themselves "software engineers". It's title creep. They are programmers. Or analysts.

But to answer the OP's question very broadly: IT is rapidly becoming (if it isn't already) a commodity item. It's one form of skilled labor... and there are millions of laborers out there learning how to use the IT hammer. Wages can only go down.

What matters is the ability to relate to business objectives and to develop business relationships. I used to be a hardcore technician... now they tend to be the bane of my life. They see things only in a narrow, technical perspective. It's the people that see things from the business perspective that command the real money.

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Postby Lee » Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:25 am

AnITEngineer wrote::D If you guys out there seriously feel that you want a career that has unlimited income potential or for other reasons, maybe you can consider about having a causal discussion with my Recruiting Manager regarding Financial Planner position. I am not suggesting you to change your job but to find out if a better opportunity exists for you since you are wondering whether you are being paid according to what you are worth.

If you are interested, drop me a mail @ info@grinweiv.com. I will contact you shortly to give you a brief introduction and you can decided whether you are still interested to go ahead with the meet up.

:?: So what do ya guys think? Give it a though, will ya?


Hey, I'd like to know. How much do you earn per month? Do you earn more than 10k / month? That's my target for 2007.

Thanks in advance.[/quote]

:D Well, AnITEngineer, for Financial Planner this position it all depend on you as you take full responsibility for your income. How much you earn depends on how much efforts you put in. You are able to hit your target of more than 10K per month if you are willing to put in the effort. There are other benefits like fast start incentive, monthly & semi annual bonuses... So do drop me a mail if you are interested to find out wher it might be the career that you are looking for.

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Postby alanyeap » Wed, 17 Aug 2005 2:49 pm

Hi, Everyone,

It's not a matter of how much you earn that is important.

Even today you earn $1k, $10k, $100k per month. The major problem is that once your hand stop, your $100k per month is gone. No more income.

The importance is to do something either a job or biz that will generate income every month.

Be it $10, $100, $1k a month $10k or $100k a month, as long as the income comes in every month EVEN our hand already stop.

Singaporean are trained from small to compare with other people.
Even in Study time already like that.

We are too busy to look at how much we can earn at our current job or biz until we forgot the importance of unlimited supplies.

Sometimes to have unlimited supplies with our limited capability doesn't mean that we can have it today. It might takes few months to few years.

All of you here especially AnITengineer already felt the limitation on the salary. and this is the reason why AnITengineer voice the dissatisfaction.

HOwever, if AnITengineer now earn $6000 per month BUT if one day want to go away to holiday for few months but still receive $6000 a month. Will you, AnITENgineer felt it is not good?


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