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Re: Married a Work Permit Holder

Post by Isdeza » Mon, 01 Jul 2019 1:24 pm

Hi MOM have approve of our marriage in May after ICA complete my newborn child Citizenship status which instead of 2 mth was dragged to 4 month and after i write in to MHA to help.Aft approval from MOM still have to apply to ICA for re-entry which again ICA delay for 4 weeks.Now in the proccess of awaiting LTVT+

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Post by piggsy » Sun, 21 Feb 2021 10:44 am

Isdeza wrote:
Mon, 01 Jul 2019 1:24 pm
Hi MOM have approve of our marriage in May after ICA complete my newborn child Citizenship status which instead of 2 mth was dragged to 4 month and after i write in to MHA to help.Aft approval from MOM still have to apply to ICA for re-entry which again ICA delay for 4 weeks.Now in the proccess of awaiting LTVT+
May I know how you appeal to MHA?

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Post by piggsy » Sun, 21 Feb 2021 10:50 am

Isdeza wrote:
Mon, 01 Jul 2019 1:24 pm
Hi MOM have approve of our marriage in May after ICA complete my newborn child Citizenship status which instead of 2 mth was dragged to 4 month and after i write in to MHA to help.Aft approval from MOM still have to apply to ICA for re-entry which again ICA delay for 4 weeks.Now in the proccess of awaiting LTVT+
May I know how you appeal to MHA?

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Re: Married a Work Permit Holder

Post by Tara97 » Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:47 pm

Hi everyone! I recently applied for work permit holder pass and they found out that I got married without seeking the approval of MOM to a Singaporean citizen. I was an ex work permit pass holder, we did not know there is such a rule. Now, they have replied asking say I have to serve a period of ban. Do I immediately leave Singapore or wait for the notice to come? When do I have to leave? I have no details about this.

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Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 04 Mar 2021 11:24 pm

Tara97 wrote:
Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:47 pm
Hi everyone! I recently applied for work permit holder pass and they found out that I got married without seeking the approval of MOM to a Singaporean citizen. I was an ex work permit pass holder, we did not know there is such a rule. Now, they have replied asking say I have to serve a period of ban. Do I immediately leave Singapore or wait for the notice to come? When do I have to leave? I have no details about this.
If they have told you that you are subjected to a ban, they would have communicated to you on when the ban starts?

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Post by Tara97 » Fri, 05 Mar 2021 5:22 am

I have received that my application to my work permit is rejected. Then at the bottom they indicated that “need to serve a period of ban of entry” but it didn’t state any other details.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 05 Mar 2021 2:28 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 04 Mar 2021 11:24 pm
Tara97 wrote:
Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:47 pm
Hi everyone! I recently applied for work permit holder pass and they found out that I got married without seeking the approval of MOM to a Singaporean citizen. I was an ex work permit pass holder, we did not know there is such a rule. Now, they have replied asking say I have to serve a period of ban. Do I immediately leave Singapore or wait for the notice to come? When do I have to leave? I have no details about this.
If they have told you that you are subjected to a ban, they would have communicated to you on when the ban starts?
No. She is royally phucked. This is exactly what happened to my Nephew and his Filipina wife. They got married without approval from the MOM, She got pregnant and she was given an LTVP initially for 1 year, which gave enough time for the baby to be born and SG citizenship approved for the baby. When the LTVP expired, ICA/MOM refused to renew it because they didn't get the required permission. She was sent packing back to the 'peens' and hasn't been allowed back to SG to this day. (My nephew had to go fetch the baby from the 'peens' just before she turned 1 year old as the baby only had SG citizenship. I ended up taking care of the baby from the age of 1 (He was still doing NS at the time) until today. (She is currently in Sec 2 and is 13 years old now).

You can do a search on this all the way back to 2009~2010 as I have related this episode numerous times here over the years. I feel sorry for Tara97 but it is what it is. When she signed on the dotted line the application for a WP it is clearly spelled out. I believe it is reiterated at the ROM as well, but if you married outside of Singapore, it is still on the WP or former WP holder to remember what she signed when coming to work here. In my nephew's case, the wife actually is a school teacher but worked on a WP at the time. She is still banned today I think, although the marriage has been annulled (easy to do in the 'peens even though it's a catholic nation, donations to the church are gladly accepted) and the little girl effectively has no mother.
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Re: Married a Work Permit Holder

Post by Tara97 » Fri, 05 Mar 2021 5:14 pm

Thank you for the information and yes I have read ur posts on the similar case.

I just have no idea when she has to leave Singapore and no one has reached out to us. I have called MOM and ICA but they both seem to be equally clueless. It is covid now we need more time to make arrangements.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 05 Mar 2021 5:30 pm

It's sad to see these kinds of cases happen. Even worse when you are closely related and can do nothing due the the Government's draconian laws. There doesn't seem to be a 'fixed' number on the length of the ban or to put it differently what usually happens is what happen in my nephews case or the local spouse has had to immigrate to the 3rd world country that the spouse came from if they want to remain together. The thought processes, I think, is that they are afraid of diluting the gene pool here, when the developed world already knows that it's too inbred already and needs an injection from the outside world.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by Tara97 » Fri, 05 Mar 2021 5:51 pm

What an excellent thought process and put together as words. Every passing day is scary and clueless. I really they have mercy on us, and allow us sometime because he is only 16 months and how can she possible handle him alone and all that immigration things. We are not sure. It is so inhumane.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 05 Mar 2021 8:54 pm

I don't know where else to go. Maybe MHA might be able to shed some light (Ministry of Home Affairs). Or maybe they can refer you to some other source.
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Re: Married a Work Permit Holder

Post by malcontent » Sat, 06 Mar 2021 1:12 am

If I were in your situation, I would keep trying all ways and means to appeal to stay in Singapore, but at the same time work on a plan B, such as emigrating to a 3rd country.

I always believe, where there’s a will, there’s a way. My wife and I went through many, many years of struggle to be together, part of that included moving to the other side of the globe and facing multiple rejections that at times seemed bleak and hopeless. If you’ve got something worth fighting for, going through this experience and overcoming the challenges can strengthen your relationship. I was prepared to do whatever it took to make it work, and that is why my wife and I are still here & still together today.
It’s not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters ~ Epictetus

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Re: Married a Work Permit Holder

Post by malcontent » Sat, 06 Mar 2021 1:58 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Fri, 05 Mar 2021 5:30 pm
The thought processes, I think, is that they are afraid of diluting the gene pool here, when the developed world already knows that it's too inbred already and needs an injection from the outside world.
I reckon the thinking is that WP is intended to provide the “privilege” to work here... not the “opportunity” to fraternize with the locals. And, since a WP is for lower skilled and lower paid, I’d also guess the concern is more about diluting economic potential and sapping a greater share of government resources. Maybe it is also an attempt to protect locals from marriage scams as well. So if a couple were to keep pursuing the matter long enough, it may stand a higher chance of approval.
It’s not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters ~ Epictetus

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Re: Married a Work Permit Holder

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 06 Mar 2021 7:42 pm

Mal, you've been here too long. You missed my subtle
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SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: Married a Work Permit Holder

Post by malcontent » Sat, 06 Mar 2021 10:22 pm

I didn’t miss it, just trying to help a certain segment of this forum who tend to take everything literally. As you know, many here are blind to art of nuance ](*,) :wink:
It’s not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters ~ Epictetus

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