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Postby grace fifi » Wed, 28 Oct 2009 3:01 pm

[hello,sundaymorningstaple, it seems you know quite well about the MOM's marriage policy of work permit holder, so after reading all the posts, i feel its quite hard for a work permit holder to marry a local, for me,im a foreigner who have studied here for 4 yrears and i knew my lovely singaporean boyfriend for 4years alredy,i planned to work in singapore after i got my certificate of advance diploma in hospitality, and my bf planned to marry me after i found a job,but now we started to worry its difficult for us to marry as im a foreigner:( :cry: ,and if i wanna work in singapore i dare not to hold work permit as u mentioned to us all work permit holder cannot marry a singaporean, even a ex-holder as well. so far i've never work in singapore with a normal work permit, but i did hold a trainee work permit pass during my attachment ,the pass is for 6months cos its a compulsory part of my courses.so is the trainee work pass holder or ex-holder same as the normal work permit holder have to get the permission 1st from MOM before marry?? thanks!!
and one more thing i dun really understand is in what situation the MOM will ban the work permit holder? how come the work permit holder will be banned from staying in singapore if he/she apply for marrying a singaporean? it sounds so horrible, let say once we apply n submit our application of marriage to MOM before we wanna get married,but unlucky if the application is not approval by MOM, then they will straight away ban the work permit holder or they wont ban us we just end up cant marry ?? or we get married without their permission then they will ban ?? it seems so scary that once a foreigner apply then if they dun want to approve,you'll be banned if in this situation,i dun think there will have people dare to apply :shock: ..... quote="sundaymorningstaple"]Depends on whether or not MOM gives them permission to marry. Applying and getting are two different things. It's possible that she had a problem in the past and may be no longer welcome here, or there could be some other blemish on her work record. There is no way of telling with the MOM. But I can guarantee you one thing. Get married without permission of the MOM and she'll never be allowed stay here. That much is fact.[/quote]
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 28 Oct 2009 4:31 pm

It's easy. Don't take a job here before you get married. Or don't take a job here that only gives you a work permit. Only take a job with a minimum of an S pass or not at all. Or get married before you take a job in Singapore.

It might not be fair, but it's the rules. If you don't like them, your boyfriend is welcome to move to Malaysia. Otherwise, that's the way it is.

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Postby grace fifi » Wed, 28 Oct 2009 5:08 pm

oh,i see!! ya,what u advise me is quite right, i also thought of not getting a job here before i marry if the rules is made like that, or i try to requst a job with S pass, so there is no such rules for trainee work pass holder right? only normal work permit holders have to obtain the approval b4 marry right, thanks again :) so i dun think in future i will take a job with work permit, lucky so far i have never hold a normal work permit...
sundaymorningstaple wrote:It's easy. Don't take a job here before you get married. Or don't take a job here that only gives you a work permit. Only take a job with a minimum of an S pass or not at all. Or get married before you take a job in Singapore.

It might not be fair, but it's the rules. If you don't like them, your boyfriend is welcome to move to Malaysia. Otherwise, that's the way it is.
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Postby shashalisa » Fri, 30 Oct 2009 5:19 pm

So if we apply permission to marry to MOM, and if they reject our marriage application, will the work permit be revoked and the work permit holder be banned from entering singapore ?

Thanks again ya....

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 30 Oct 2009 6:30 pm

Please go back and reread the entire thread again. Several times. :roll:

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Postby shashalisa » Mon, 02 Nov 2009 2:41 pm

I have email to MOM for enquiry if the work permit holders' work permit will be revoke if the application of a marriage is unsuccessful. The MOM does not reply me back through email. Instead they call me. I was told that whether the work permit revoke depends on case by case basis. And she does not want to reveal much, of whether what is the scenario will be revoke and will not revoke.

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Postby benong » Tue, 01 Dec 2009 5:43 am

for the work permit or ex-workpermit holder ,cant married to singaporean,do your really know why???

First why they class the pass as wp and s -pass or employment pass?? , when they married to singapore what quolification they have?and how helpful they can to build singapore???money or talent.

Once I been object before ,know why???Income-tax pass three year how much you earn and if both are less then 2500.then dont dream about it ok~!!!!the gov. will calculate for u ,how the family will subsist for the low income .

but at last I make it hahahaha......................yes.

try harder on the "income"

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 01 Dec 2009 7:12 am

The biggest reason for the Work Permit permission is that the want the ability to be able to make sure that those they allow to become permanent residents will be able to provide offspring who at least have a double digit IQ. If you think I'm kidding, some of the old timers will remember the "O" level parents baby bonus of a decade or so ago. Unfortunately, all it did was give the country more "O" levels dummies who block MRT train doors and stand at the top or bottom of escalators. So now they try to keep the peons out of Singapore as much as possible unless there is some menial labour that needs doing.

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Postby config » Thu, 03 Dec 2009 6:40 pm

Hi!

I have read through the entire post. Before i ask, i would like to tell my problem first.

I am a Male singaporean and my gf is PRC working in singapore with WP (currently).

Just yesterday, we found out that she is pregnant. Then i started to think of her WP, marriage and future.

First, her WP will be revoke, until now i have not yet report to her work about this but confirm is they will ask her to leave the country upon confirmation.

Second, i need to apply for marriage approval to MOM. (Processing time 1 month)

Now my most worrying part, what is my chances of getting approved? Since MOM will know that she get pregnant and leave country. This will be counted as offence and will they ban her forever? If they do, i as a singaporean will not get a chance of having family, buying my own new flat and getting a life here.

I do not know what is the justification of this Law. She didn't have any criminal record or any bad record at all.

Please share some of your idea or know how..

I am really stress out as this is my fault for making her pregnant.

Thanks!

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Postby xtasy010 » Thu, 03 Dec 2009 7:01 pm

config wrote:I am really stress out as this is my fault for making her pregnant.


Well, it takes two so don't take the entire blame yourself, unless you forced yourself on her.

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Postby config » Thu, 03 Dec 2009 7:24 pm

xtasy010 wrote:
config wrote:I am really stress out as this is my fault for making her pregnant.


Well, it takes two so don't take the entire blame yourself, unless you forced yourself on her.


I understand but as a guy who care about her and our future, i am indeep really really depress now. It is almost hopeless..

I am currently reading through any possible public news on this case and so far only found a few and not surprisingly all are being rejected (of course those get approve won't be here).

I found this news which was published before (google the title as i can't attach the link). For him, she was a Maid and that might be the reason. OMG how about me?


Asiaone News
MOM remains mum to approving marriage of long distance lovers

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Postby config » Thu, 03 Dec 2009 7:34 pm

Marriage Restriction Policy

15. On the continuing need for the Marriage Restriction Policy (MRP) for Work Permit holders, may I remind members, that at this point in time we have more than 500,000 WP holders in Singapore, mainly less-skilled or unskilled workers. Quite clearly, we need to ensure that they do not sink roots in Singapore. We need to be very careful that the couple is able to look after themselves and their family and not become a burden to the society or state in the longer term. This is the rationale for the MRP. However, MOM does assess each application of WP holders to marry and have approved over 85%. Thus the MRP does not stop family formation.


http://www.mom.gov.sg/publish/momportal/en/press_room/mom_speeches/2004/20040319-attractingforeigntalenttoworkpasssystem.html

http://migrantworkerssingapore.blogspot.com/2009/02/looking-for-love-far-from-home.html

Well no matter what i still need to do my part as a citizen to apply for permit to marry. Will i ever get approve?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:09 pm

You need to get permission from MOM FIRST! If you don't you can just plan on going back with her to China. Who knows, as they said, they want to keep the "not to smart" from sinking roots here. If you knocked her up, that means you also fit right in that bunch. Therefore if you return to China with her, the Government kills two birds with one stone!

Have you applied to MOM yet? Why not? What's stopping you. It makes no difference as they are going to find out sooner or later that she's pregnant as it's pretty difficult to hide. When she has to go to a doctor and shows her WP they will have to notify the government anyway. If you apply to MOM now, you may stand a chance, but the longer you wait, the less your chances are going to be. But at the end of the day, your chances are honestly, pretty slim. I'd think about making plans to immigrate to PRC if you really want to stay with her.

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Postby config » Fri, 04 Dec 2009 7:29 pm

Well..

I have just found out that she do not require to get permission from MOM to marry SPR or Singaporean. MOM sent that letter to her when she got her WP.

So that government do not need to waste one stone to kill both of us.

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help.

Postby milza » Wed, 28 Apr 2010 1:50 am

hi,
my name is milza, am currently in the same satuation.im am a ex work permit holder. i was once married to singaporean when i wasnt a wp holder which end up in divorced.im currently a sole custody to my two singaporean son.Given my mother herself is singaporean i couldnt get SPR due to financial issues. i was advice in order to apply SPR i have to work.follow advice given i work under WP there is when i fell in love with my singaporean bf. we decided to get married and i call M.O.M for advice. They told me to fill up the permission form and submit it. ( which took a month to reach me). while waiting for the form to reach i found myself 1week pregnant. in confused and panic satuation i called M.O.M for advice. Without reminding me the rules neither informing me the consequences they just say that check with my employer whether the company allow me to be pregnant whilst working and submit the marriage application form. My company says its allowed but my application was rejected,wp were revoked and i as banned when i was nearly 5month pregnant! until today they still asking me to keep appealing. now am all alone in malaysia with my newborn. she has no father name as i cant even get married to my bf outside singapore. this is concerning my newborn future. i am so badly missing my singaporeans kids too. if i get married here for my newborn future i wont be able to enter singapore to meets my others childs needs as . do you have any other way that i can appeal and ask for help in my case?? :cry:
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