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Post by zzm9980 » Sat, 29 Dec 2012 8:15 pm

They always want documents in English. But honestly, with everything else, I don't think you'll need it.

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Post by Skypirate » Sat, 29 Dec 2012 8:25 pm

zzm9980 wrote:They always want documents in English. But honestly, with everything else, I don't think you'll need it.
Thank you zzm9980!

Do you think it would be advisable to get her Form 5 certificate translated into English by the Supreme Court.

As I have yet to see the requirements stated on the application form, I am wondering if it is a non-negotiable requirement.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 29 Dec 2012 8:53 pm

The easiest way, when dealing with government ministries, is when in doubt, send it. If they don't want it, nevermind, if they do or it helps, it keeps them from having to keep asking for more information. ;-)
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by Skypirate » Sat, 29 Dec 2012 9:07 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:The easiest way, when dealing with government ministries, is when in doubt, send it. If they don't want it, nevermind, if they do or it helps, it keeps them from having to keep asking for more information. ;-)
lol this is so damn true.
Takes me back to my regular days where you will just send whatever information, needed or not, to safeguard your backside!

Thanks SMS! :D

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Post by Skypirate » Mon, 31 Dec 2012 9:52 pm

Hi Guys,

In 2 hours and 15 minutes time, we would be welcoming the dawn of a new year and here I wished all of you a peaceful end to 2012 and great start to 2013.

I need help and advice on this peculiar issue which really stumped me.

I just received a letter from MOM (Signed off by Mrs. Penny Han - Controller of Work Passes)

It clearly indicates (I re-read it at least 10 times and verified the WP number is correct)

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Dear Ms.......

>>> You do not need to seek approval to marry <<<
YOUR WORK PERMIT NO. Xxxxxxxxx

Based on your application data, the approval of the Controller of Work Passes is not needed for you to marry a Singapore Citizen or Permanent Resident (PR), or for you to set up a family in Singapore.

However, remember that marrying a Singapore Citizen or PR does not mean you can stay or have permanent resident status in Singapore. You may apply for permanent residency, subject to the requirements of the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority. Otherwise, you may continue to renew your pass with the relevant authority.

Yours sincerely
Penny Han (Mrs)
Controller of Work Passes

--------------

What gives? :???: :???: :???: Anyone has similar experience?

PS: I just recalled her estranged mum (who had remarried a Singaporean). She is either a Singaporean or Singapore PR as what I know.
Does that make a difference?

I am going to give a call to MOM on Wednesday to clarify this.

Once again your advice would be highly appreciated.
Thanks!

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:05 pm

Skypirate wrote: Based on your application data, the approval of the Controller of Work Passes is not needed for you to marry a Singapore Citizen or Permanent Resident (PR), or for you to set up a family in Singapore.

However, remember that marrying a Singapore Citizen or PR does not mean you can stay or have permanent resident status in Singapore. You may apply for permanent residency, subject to the requirements of the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority. Otherwise, you may continue to renew your pass with the relevant authority.


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What gives? :???: :???: :???: Anyone has similar experience?

PS: I just recalled her estranged mum (who had remarried a Singaporean). She is either a Singaporean or Singapore PR as what I know.
Does that make a difference?

I am going to give a call to MOM on Wednesday to clarify this.

Once again your advice would be highly appreciated.
Thanks!
Sounds to me like they are giving her the go ahead to marry you, to me. You can call them, but it's pretty plain, but whether it has anything to do with her mother or not is a different story. If it will make you feel better, go ahead and call them, but from my reading, they are saying she has a green light to marry you.

Happy New Year. And, yeah, what the hell am I doing on the board at this hour!! My wife and daughter went to India last night and I'll be following next Friday night for my daughter's traditional wedding ceremony in Kerala on Sunday. This is the 1st time in 29+ years of marriage we haven't spend the new year together! So, I'm a lost ball in high weeds tonight. :-|

But if I were you, I'd be celebrating! :cool:
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by Skypirate » Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:28 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Skypirate wrote: Based on your application data, the approval of the Controller of Work Passes is not needed for you to marry a Singapore Citizen or Permanent Resident (PR), or for you to set up a family in Singapore.

However, remember that marrying a Singapore Citizen or PR does not mean you can stay or have permanent resident status in Singapore. You may apply for permanent residency, subject to the requirements of the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority. Otherwise, you may continue to renew your pass with the relevant authority.


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What gives? :???: :???: :???: Anyone has similar experience?

PS: I just recalled her estranged mum (who had remarried a Singaporean). She is either a Singaporean or Singapore PR as what I know.
Does that make a difference?

I am going to give a call to MOM on Wednesday to clarify this.

Once again your advice would be highly appreciated.
Thanks!
Sounds to me like they are giving her the go ahead to marry you, to me. You can call them, but it's pretty plain, but whether it has anything to do with her mother or not is a different story. If it will make you feel better, go ahead and call them, but from my reading, they are saying she has a green light to marry you.

Happy New Year. And, yeah, what the hell am I doing on the board at this hour!! My wife and daughter went to India last night and I'll be following next Friday night for my daughter's traditional wedding ceremony in Kerala on Sunday. This is the 1st time in 29+ years of marriage we haven't spend the new year together! So, I'm a lost ball in high weeds tonight. :-|

But if I were you, I'd be celebrating! :cool:
Thanks SMS for the quick response and congratulations on your daughter's marriage!

Traditional in Kerala? Does that mean both the bride and bridesgroom would be sitting down at the front, with plenty of ornaments/food, while an esteemed 'guy' (sorry do not know the exact description of it) would preside over the wedding?

All my life I have only been invited once to an Indian wedding :(
But it was simply one of the best experiences of my life. It was such a lively and enchanting atmosphere where the relatives would all take turns to sing and dance in celebration of the wedding. And my, they were fantastic singers xD

Not to mention the absolutely awesome vegetarian curry! How I missed it :cry: The only thing that I wasn't so comfortable were all the 'blink blink' around the place, which really gave me starry eyes after I exited the place.

Anyway yes, I will definitely call them up to clarify.
When things are too good to be true, most probably it is.

I do not wished to just go ahead and what if later it was a 'honest' mistake by MOM?

Knowing the operandi modus of the government, they would probably say to me then that
"Since you were in doubt, you should had clarified the issue beyond reasonable doubt! You are at fault! Both of you get out of Singapore now!"

Definitely giving a call on Wednesday to clarify about this. Thanks again for your reply.

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Post by JR8 » Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:39 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Skypirate wrote: --------------

What gives? :???: :???: :???: Anyone has similar experience?

PS: I just recalled her estranged mum (who had remarried a Singaporean). She is either a Singaporean or Singapore PR as what I know.
Does that make a difference?

I am going to give a call to MOM on Wednesday to clarify this.

Once again your advice would be highly appreciated.
Thanks!
Sounds to me like they are giving her the go ahead to marry you, to me. You can call them, but it's pretty plain, but whether it has anything to do with her mother or not is a different story. If it will make you feel better, go ahead and call them, but from my reading, they are saying she has a green light to marry you.

Happy New Year. And, yeah, what the hell am I doing on the board at this hour!! My wife and daughter went to India last night and I'll be following next Friday night for my daughter's traditional wedding ceremony in Kerala on Sunday. This is the 1st time in 29+ years of marriage we haven't spend the new year together! So, I'm a lost ball in high weeds tonight. :-|

But if I were you, I'd be celebrating! :cool:

Congratulations SMS, and hope you have a great time in Kerala!

We'll be good when you're away. Promise :wink:


p.s. Yeah man, Kerala, 30 years ago ... great 'erb

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 01 Jan 2013 12:48 am

Skypirate is right about the bling though. I think there been something like 10K spend just on her jewelry (gold) alone! But this is a different type of marriage so I'm not sure what she's getting into, they are Orthodox Syrian Christians (which is one of the largest Christian churches in Kerala - Christians are the 2nd largest religion in Kerala). :o

So it's gonna be interesting. I'm only there for 3 days. Leaving the night of the 4th and back in Singapore the morning of the 8th (all of us - then on the 12th the legal ceremony and reception at the Rasa Sentosa) Putting a pretty good sized dent in the finances all in all. Will have to admit, though, I actually like the guy. ;-)
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 01 Jan 2013 12:50 am

And I just glossed over your p.s. ;-)
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by JR8 » Tue, 01 Jan 2013 2:16 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Skypirate is right about the bling though. I think there been something like 10K spend just on her jewelry (gold) alone! But this is a different type of marriage so I'm not sure what she's getting into, they are Orthodox Syrian Christians (which is one of the largest Christian churches in Kerala - Christians are the 2nd largest religion in Kerala). :o

So it's gonna be interesting. I'm only there for 3 days. Leaving the night of the 4th and back in Singapore the morning of the 8th (all of us - then on the 12th the legal ceremony and reception at the Rasa Sentosa) Putting a pretty good sized dent in the finances all in all. Will have to admit, though, I actually like the guy. ;-)

Fantastic. Yeah sure, there are Syrian Christians, same same in Lebanon, Egypt oso (Ethiopia .... and so on)

I'm very happy for you. Especially that you actually like him. Knowing my in-laws like me [yeah they told me to my face which is totally un-British], was a very moving thing for me, as I knew they honestly meant it, and it was so unexpected...

Have a great time. Best wishes to you and the family!

p.s. Get the lad to post some more gittar tracks on Youtube yah? There's only so much RnR .... ;)

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Post by the lynx » Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:00 am

Skypirate wrote:Hi Guys,

In 2 hours and 15 minutes time, we would be welcoming the dawn of a new year and here I wished all of you a peaceful end to 2012 and great start to 2013.

I need help and advice on this peculiar issue which really stumped me.

I just received a letter from MOM (Signed off by Mrs. Penny Han - Controller of Work Passes)

It clearly indicates (I re-read it at least 10 times and verified the WP number is correct)

---------
Dear Ms.......

>>> You do not need to seek approval to marry <<<
YOUR WORK PERMIT NO. Xxxxxxxxx

Based on your application data, the approval of the Controller of Work Passes is not needed for you to marry a Singapore Citizen or Permanent Resident (PR), or for you to set up a family in Singapore.

However, remember that marrying a Singapore Citizen or PR does not mean you can stay or have permanent resident status in Singapore. You may apply for permanent residency, subject to the requirements of the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority. Otherwise, you may continue to renew your pass with the relevant authority.

Yours sincerely
Penny Han (Mrs)
Controller of Work Passes

--------------

What gives? :???: :???: :???: Anyone has similar experience?

PS: I just recalled her estranged mum (who had remarried a Singaporean). She is either a Singaporean or Singapore PR as what I know.
Does that make a difference?

I am going to give a call to MOM on Wednesday to clarify this.

Once again your advice would be highly appreciated.
Thanks!
No need to call. It means she can go ahead to marry you without additional hoops to jump over. I've seen this document given to some WPs of favourable background.

Congratulations.

Now, go and get married already! LOL! :lol:

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Post by Skypirate » Wed, 02 Jan 2013 7:08 pm

the lynx wrote:
Skypirate wrote:Hi Guys,

In 2 hours and 15 minutes time, we would be welcoming the dawn of a new year and here I wished all of you a peaceful end to 2012 and great start to 2013.

I need help and advice on this peculiar issue which really stumped me.

I just received a letter from MOM (Signed off by Mrs. Penny Han - Controller of Work Passes)

It clearly indicates (I re-read it at least 10 times and verified the WP number is correct)

---------
Dear Ms.......

>>> You do not need to seek approval to marry <<<
YOUR WORK PERMIT NO. Xxxxxxxxx

Based on your application data, the approval of the Controller of Work Passes is not needed for you to marry a Singapore Citizen or Permanent Resident (PR), or for you to set up a family in Singapore.

However, remember that marrying a Singapore Citizen or PR does not mean you can stay or have permanent resident status in Singapore. You may apply for permanent residency, subject to the requirements of the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority. Otherwise, you may continue to renew your pass with the relevant authority.

Yours sincerely
Penny Han (Mrs)
Controller of Work Passes

--------------

What gives? :???: :???: :???: Anyone has similar experience?

PS: I just recalled her estranged mum (who had remarried a Singaporean). She is either a Singaporean or Singapore PR as what I know.
Does that make a difference?

I am going to give a call to MOM on Wednesday to clarify this.

Once again your advice would be highly appreciated.
Thanks!
No need to call. It means she can go ahead to marry you without additional hoops to jump over. I've seen this document given to some WPs of favourable background.

Congratulations.

Now, go and get married already! LOL! :lol:
Lawl thanks Lynx for the assurance.
I have actually called up MOM this morning and enquired about this.

The only thing the MOM officer can answered was that my gf was given a 'waiver'
She was clueless as well about the criteria needed to meet that 'waiver' lol.

This is really befuddling when you mentioned favourable background. My gf's surname ain't 'Lee' nor did she took a bullet for any prominent member of the public. :D

Whatever, we are counting our lucky stars and will be booking a ROM date shortly. Cheers and thanks all again for the help!

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 02 Jan 2013 7:22 pm

Congratulations. :)

Where I come from we have an old sayin' "Never kick a gift horse in the mouth!"
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by taxico » Wed, 02 Jan 2013 11:08 pm

the lynx wrote:...Now, go and get married already! LOL! :lol:
don't do it!!!

:D

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